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Mom Changes Mind About Abortion After Newtown Shooting 

The school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut was a terrible tragedy that took the lives of two dozen children and school officials. However, the tragedy has helped millions of Americans foster a greater appreciation for children and human life.

Steve Rupp, Vice President of Missouri Right to Life, shares the following story of how it made such a monumental impact on one mother considering an abortion that she changed her mind:

With the horrid news from Connecticut–that is like an arrow piercing America’s heart–comes a story of tragedy turned triumphant.

My young nephew was running his small restaurant in Des Moines earlier this week when one of his employees came in to the store and asked if she could get her paycheck a little early. While he was in the office cutting her check, she sat at one of the WiFi computers to wait. On the screen, the story of the school shootings was being broadcast. The young lady started sobbing uncontrollably.

My nephew came out to console her and brought her back into his office to let her compose herself when she told him, “I needed my paycheck early because I have an appointment at Planned Parenthood this afternoon to have an abortion.” And then she said, “After seeing all of those innocent young children dying and all of those mothers who have had their children taken from them, I can’t go through with this abortion!”

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/12/21/mom-changes-mind-about-abortion-after-newtown-shooting/

by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM
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jcribb16
by Primrose Foxglove on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:40 PM
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It is a big deal to the people who need the help.  You "pounced" on me out of nowhere, sarcastically, I might add.  So I re-directed the question towards you.  If you are going to "judge" me, then you should show exactly what it is you do.

I have helped "physically," and I help monetarily.  You?

Quoting LucyMom08:

Yes, that's what I asked you...if you can't answer it's not a big deal...

Quoting jcribb16:

So what have you actually, physically, monetarily, done for prenatal care for others?

Quoting LucyMom08:

So what have you actually, physically, done for prenatal care for others?



Quoting jcribb16:

A great many have and do.  Have you given prenatal care, too?  That can be given by EVERYONE who has a heart for those babies and moms.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

PP helped millions of women give birth to healthy babies





How many has the prolife movement given prenatal care too?






Quoting blondekosmic15:

 







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jcribb16
by Primrose Foxglove on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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Don't bother with her baiting - it's just an agitating tactic that usually comes back on the ones who love to do it.

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I didn't say "only my site" is credible. I don't believe her site to be....that's all.  I believe it's probably like PP site. 

Quoting LucyMom08:

So only your site is credible? Why is that?

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

There are many that don't share it with anybody that they've had an abortion. They are still so grief stricken and ashamed.........: (  There are many post abortion counselors that don't have a slow day. I'm sorry but I don't believe those sites are credible. Probably much like PP : (

Quoting chloedee:



Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I took a look.....I don't believe it to be credible.  Look at the difference in sites.  The one I posted has pictures with names and location.  Yours has a name and a real sad story......that they are still living with.

Quoting chloedee:

For stories of women who don't regret having abortions, check out imnotsorry.net. As well, I'm mobile now but would be happy to post scientific evidence stating that the majority of women do not experience long lasting negative effects from an abortion.







Perhaps many of these women don't feel comfortable sharing their name and location due to the social stigma and potential for violence? As well, the website explains that it purposely uses first names only in order to make the stories more relatable to a wider audience. Here are other sites if you'd like some more examples: http://www.thanksabortion.com/ http://www.myabortionmylife.org/ and just Googling "positive abortion experiences" will bring up stories, since you said you were having trouble finding some!

There is also no non-biased scientific evidence of a causal relationship between an abortion and poor mental health, so while there may be stories either way (as there would be with any human experience), current psychological understanding doesn't point to abortion being a cause of major mental health issues. 




LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:42 PM
You said her multiple sites were not credible, but yours is...why the dichotomy?
Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I didn't say "only my site" is credible. I don't believe her site to be....that's all.  I believe it's probably like PP site. 

Quoting LucyMom08:

So only your site is credible? Why is that?



Quoting PeeperSqueak:

There are many that don't share it with anybody that they've had an abortion. They are still so grief stricken and ashamed.........: (  There are many post abortion counselors that don't have a slow day. I'm sorry but I don't believe those sites are credible. Probably much like PP : (

Quoting chloedee:




Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I took a look.....I don't believe it to be credible.  Look at the difference in sites.  The one I posted has pictures with names and location.  Yours has a name and a real sad story......that they are still living with.

Quoting chloedee:

For stories of women who don't regret having abortions, check out imnotsorry.net. As well, I'm mobile now but would be happy to post scientific evidence stating that the majority of women do not experience long lasting negative effects from an abortion.












Perhaps many of these women don't feel comfortable sharing their name and location due to the social stigma and potential for violence? As well, the website explains that it purposely uses first names only in order to make the stories more relatable to a wider audience. Here are other sites if you'd like some more examples: http://www.thanksabortion.com/ http://www.myabortionmylife.org/ and just Googling "positive abortion experiences" will bring up stories, since you said you were having trouble finding some!

There is also no non-biased scientific evidence of a causal relationship between an abortion and poor mental health, so while there may be stories either way (as there would be with any human experience), current psychological understanding doesn't point to abortion being a cause of major mental health issues. 



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LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:44 PM
You have a strange definition of a supposed 'attack'...no one is allowed to ask you questions?

Quoting jcribb16:

It is a big deal to the people who need the help.  You "pounced" on me out of nowhere, sarcastically, I might add.  So I re-directed the question towards you.  If you are going to "judge" me, then you should show exactly what it is you do.

I have helped "physically," and I help monetarily.  You?

Quoting LucyMom08:

Yes, that's what I asked you...if you can't answer it's not a big deal...



Quoting jcribb16:

So what have you actually, physically, monetarily, done for prenatal care for others?

Quoting LucyMom08:

So what have you actually, physically, done for prenatal care for others?





Quoting jcribb16:

A great many have and do.  Have you given prenatal care, too?  That can be given by EVERYONE who has a heart for those babies and moms.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

PP helped millions of women give birth to healthy babies







How many has the prolife movement given prenatal care too?








Quoting blondekosmic15:

 









snipped tree

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LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Not really...like I said, it's not a big deal...

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

Does it matter ?

Quoting LucyMom08:

Yes, that's what I asked you...if you can't answer it's not a big deal...



Quoting jcribb16:

So what have you actually, physically, monetarily, done for prenatal care for others?

Quoting LucyMom08:

So what have you actually, physically, done for prenatal care for others?





Quoting jcribb16:

A great many have and do.  Have you given prenatal care, too?  That can be given by EVERYONE who has a heart for those babies and moms.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

PP helped millions of women give birth to healthy babies







How many has the prolife movement given prenatal care too?








Quoting blondekosmic15:

 









Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Or you could pass in the urge to force this prolife propaganda on everyone

Two way street





The Planned Parenthoods, a multi-billion $$$ abortion industry have spread their lies and propaganda for yrs thru out this Country. I am familiar with all their deceitful tactics since 1973. They take advantage of vulnerable women under the guise of compassion and womens health issues. They fill their pockets with blood money everytime an unborn child is murdered. You betcha....those who respect the sanctity of human life will be a voice for those who cannot defend themselves. If this is not to your liking sweet-a-kins, you have the choice to avoid any posts about abortion. No one is forcing you to click on. I exercise my free will to skip posts I prefer to stay from. Very simple sweet-a-kins....









Quoting VeronicaTex:









blondekosmic, please permit me to address this "forcing your beliefs down my throat issue."





I believe that if a person is truly confident in what they believe, they will "beg to differ".





We are all entitled to voice what we believe. Period.





I encourage those to just can't resist the urge to use that insulting remark, to practice fortitude and learn to pass on the urge.





I encourage more positive inner strength to stand by your principles, and resist voicing the insults.





I believe, then,  your posture and stance will appear to be more valid.





Veronica





 




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PeeperSqueak
by on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM
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Gotchya.....I see what you meaneye rolling

Quoting jcribb16:

Don't bother with her baiting - it's just an agitating tactic that usually comes back on the ones who love to do it.

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I didn't say "only my site" is credible. I don't believe her site to be....that's all.  I believe it's probably like PP site. 

Quoting LucyMom08:

So only your site is credible? Why is that?

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

There are many that don't share it with anybody that they've had an abortion. They are still so grief stricken and ashamed.........: (  There are many post abortion counselors that don't have a slow day. I'm sorry but I don't believe those sites are credible. Probably much like PP : (

Quoting chloedee:



Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I took a look.....I don't believe it to be credible.  Look at the difference in sites.  The one I posted has pictures with names and location.  Yours has a name and a real sad story......that they are still living with.

Quoting chloedee:

For stories of women who don't regret having abortions, check out imnotsorry.net. As well, I'm mobile now but would be happy to post scientific evidence stating that the majority of women do not experience long lasting negative effects from an abortion.







Perhaps many of these women don't feel comfortable sharing their name and location due to the social stigma and potential for violence? As well, the website explains that it purposely uses first names only in order to make the stories more relatable to a wider audience. Here are other sites if you'd like some more examples: http://www.thanksabortion.com/ http://www.myabortionmylife.org/ and just Googling "positive abortion experiences" will bring up stories, since you said you were having trouble finding some!

There is also no non-biased scientific evidence of a causal relationship between an abortion and poor mental health, so while there may be stories either way (as there would be with any human experience), current psychological understanding doesn't point to abortion being a cause of major mental health issues. 





LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Baiting? Haha...really?

Quoting jcribb16:

Don't bother with her baiting - it's just an agitating tactic that usually comes back on the ones who love to do it.

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I didn't say "only my site" is credible. I don't believe her site to be....that's all.  I believe it's probably like PP site. 

Quoting LucyMom08:

So only your site is credible? Why is that?



Quoting PeeperSqueak:

There are many that don't share it with anybody that they've had an abortion. They are still so grief stricken and ashamed.........: (  There are many post abortion counselors that don't have a slow day. I'm sorry but I don't believe those sites are credible. Probably much like PP : (

Quoting chloedee:




Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I took a look.....I don't believe it to be credible.  Look at the difference in sites.  The one I posted has pictures with names and location.  Yours has a name and a real sad story......that they are still living with.

Quoting chloedee:

For stories of women who don't regret having abortions, check out imnotsorry.net. As well, I'm mobile now but would be happy to post scientific evidence stating that the majority of women do not experience long lasting negative effects from an abortion.










Perhaps many of these women don't feel comfortable sharing their name and location due to the social stigma and potential for violence? As well, the website explains that it purposely uses first names only in order to make the stories more relatable to a wider audience. Here are other sites if you'd like some more examples: http://www.thanksabortion.com/ http://www.myabortionmylife.org/ and just Googling "positive abortion experiences" will bring up stories, since you said you were having trouble finding some!

There is also no non-biased scientific evidence of a causal relationship between an abortion and poor mental health, so while there may be stories either way (as there would be with any human experience), current psychological understanding doesn't point to abortion being a cause of major mental health issues. 




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LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Asking questions and having a discussion is not baiting...isn't that what this forum is for?

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

Gotchya.....I see what you meaneye rolling

Quoting jcribb16:

Don't bother with her baiting - it's just an agitating tactic that usually comes back on the ones who love to do it.

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I didn't say "only my site" is credible. I don't believe her site to be....that's all.  I believe it's probably like PP site. 

Quoting LucyMom08:

So only your site is credible? Why is that?



Quoting PeeperSqueak:

There are many that don't share it with anybody that they've had an abortion. They are still so grief stricken and ashamed.........: (  There are many post abortion counselors that don't have a slow day. I'm sorry but I don't believe those sites are credible. Probably much like PP : (

Quoting chloedee:




Quoting PeeperSqueak:

I took a look.....I don't believe it to be credible.  Look at the difference in sites.  The one I posted has pictures with names and location.  Yours has a name and a real sad story......that they are still living with.

Quoting chloedee:

For stories of women who don't regret having abortions, check out imnotsorry.net. As well, I'm mobile now but would be happy to post scientific evidence stating that the majority of women do not experience long lasting negative effects from an abortion.










Perhaps many of these women don't feel comfortable sharing their name and location due to the social stigma and potential for violence? As well, the website explains that it purposely uses first names only in order to make the stories more relatable to a wider audience. Here are other sites if you'd like some more examples: http://www.thanksabortion.com/ http://www.myabortionmylife.org/ and just Googling "positive abortion experiences" will bring up stories, since you said you were having trouble finding some!

There is also no non-biased scientific evidence of a causal relationship between an abortion and poor mental health, so while there may be stories either way (as there would be with any human experience), current psychological understanding doesn't point to abortion being a cause of major mental health issues. 





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PeeperSqueak
by on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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It's not that no one is allowed to ask questions, it's what they do with our answers.  We'll answer a question, then some put a certain spin on what they want our answers to be without us even saying that.  It's just not worth the aggravation, time, etc. 

Exactly like what you are accusing me of.  I said "I believe" the site she provided is not credible.  Certainly nothing personal.......!

Quoting LucyMom08:

You have a strange definition of a supposed 'attack'...no one is allowed to ask you questions?

Quoting jcribb16:

It is a big deal to the people who need the help.  You "pounced" on me out of nowhere, sarcastically, I might add.  So I re-directed the question towards you.  If you are going to "judge" me, then you should show exactly what it is you do.

I have helped "physically," and I help monetarily.  You?

Quoting LucyMom08:

Yes, that's what I asked you...if you can't answer it's not a big deal...



Quoting jcribb16:

So what have you actually, physically, monetarily, done for prenatal care for others?

Quoting LucyMom08:

So what have you actually, physically, done for prenatal care for others?





Quoting jcribb16:

A great many have and do.  Have you given prenatal care, too?  That can be given by EVERYONE who has a heart for those babies and moms.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

PP helped millions of women give birth to healthy babies







How many has the prolife movement given prenatal care too?








Quoting blondekosmic15:

 









snipped tree


LucyMom08
by Silver Member on Jan. 6, 2013 at 10:50 PM
And I simply wanted to know what makes your site credible and her sites not...

Quoting PeeperSqueak:

It's not that no one is allowed to ask questions, it's what they do with our answers.  We'll answer a question, then some put a certain spin on what they want our answers to be without us even saying that.  It's just not worth the aggravation, time, etc. 

Exactly like what you are accusing me of.  I said "I believe" the site she provided is not credible.  Certainly nothing personal.......!

Quoting LucyMom08:

You have a strange definition of a supposed 'attack'...no one is allowed to ask you questions?



Quoting jcribb16:

It is a big deal to the people who need the help.  You "pounced" on me out of nowhere, sarcastically, I might add.  So I re-directed the question towards you.  If you are going to "judge" me, then you should show exactly what it is you do.

I have helped "physically," and I help monetarily.  You?

Quoting LucyMom08:

Yes, that's what I asked you...if you can't answer it's not a big deal...





Quoting jcribb16:

So what have you actually, physically, monetarily, done for prenatal care for others?

Quoting LucyMom08:

So what have you actually, physically, done for prenatal care for others?







Quoting jcribb16:

A great many have and do.  Have you given prenatal care, too?  That can be given by EVERYONE who has a heart for those babies and moms.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

PP helped millions of women give birth to healthy babies









How many has the prolife movement given prenatal care too?










Quoting blondekosmic15:

 











snipped tree


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