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Pastor Kicked Out of Inauguration Program Over Anti-Gay Sermon (Giglio's out)

Posted by on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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An update to a post that was posted yeseterday (I think).

From Dave Weigel of Slate:

What a difference a re-election makes. In 2008, Barack Obama extended an olive branch to critical social conservatives and invited Rick Warren to give a sermon at his inauguration. Warren's joint interviews with Obama and John McCain were seen as a low point for the Democrats' campaign, a real tangle of incoherent positions -- it was a magnanimous gesture on the part of the new president.

Gay groups lambasted the incoming president for elevating an opponent of gay marriage, a supporter of Prop 8 in California. Obama told them to chill out.

Obama said he and Warren don't agree on everything, but he's collected a group of people to appear at his inauguration who share a variety of viewpoints.
Repeating a line from his campaign, Obama said, "We have to disagree without being disagreeable and then focus on those things that we hold in common as Americans."

This week, reporter Josh Israel dug up a 2011 sermon from Louis Giglio, who'd been slotted to say a prayer on January 21st. In it, Giglio had condemned gay activists, accusing them of trying "to seize by any means necessary the feeling and the mood of the day, to the point where the homosexual lifestyle becomes accepted as a norm in our society."

Twenty-four hours later, Giglio is out. The inaugural committee does not obscure the reason.

We were not aware of Pastor Giglio’s past comments at the time of his selection and they don’t reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this Inaugural. Pastor Giglio was asked to deliver the benediction in large part for his leadership in combating human trafficking around the world. As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration’s vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans.

The big theme of the past two months -- the cliff deal, filibuster reform, even the platinum coin -- is a revivified Obama and Democratic party attempting to break conservative opposition at every opportunity. Where there was grudging acceptance of conservative opposition, there's now a lust for victory.

I have to say, I am LOVING Obama 2013.  I feel like he's being more true to his gut than he was in 2009.

by on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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rccmom
by Gold Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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I read that he voluntarily pulled himself out of the inauguration, which is different from him being kicked out.

mikiemom
by Silver Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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According to the Paster's people he pulled himself out because he didn't want his statements to be used to polarize folks - nice try though with that one lol
MsDenuninani
by Bronze Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM
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I think he technically withdrew - but I suspect he was asked to withdraw.

rccmom
by Gold Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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Quoting MsDenuninani:

I think he technically withdrew - but I suspect he was asked to withdraw.


Technicalities are important, especially when such facts are not known. You suspect he was asked, but you do not know.  

MsDenuninani
by Bronze Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 2:52 PM
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Quoting rccmom:

 

Quoting MsDenuninani:

I think he technically withdrew - but I suspect he was asked to withdraw.


Technicalities are important, especially when such facts are not known. You suspect he was asked, but you do not know.  

In this case, I don't think the technicality is important at all.

What is noteworthy is the tone, and the difference from 2009 to 2013 when it comes to treatment of an anti-gay pastor.  Obama 2009 did not wish to alienate people who shared Warren's views on homosexuality. 

Obama 2013 doesn't give a crap.  They deliberately went out of their way to say they weren't aware of his past comments, while in 2009 they were most definitely aware of Rick Warren's. 

Unless Giglio's comments are more manifestly biggoted than any Warren had made, I don't see the reason for the more strident tone now.

darlingdaisy
by on Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM
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 How inclusive.  Gotta love how open minded libs are.  Their way or the highway.  I would bet money he was asked to withdraw.

autodidact
by Silver Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM

how would it have been inclusive to have him there? but you probably have no problem with gays being excluded. 

Quoting darlingdaisy:

 How inclusive.  Gotta love how open minded libs are.  Their way or the highway.  I would bet money he was asked to withdraw.





autodidact
by Silver Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM

"libs" didn't make him back out, CON.  

Quoting darlingdaisy:

 How inclusive.  Gotta love how open minded libs are.  Their way or the highway.  I would bet money he was asked to withdraw.





darlingdaisy
by on Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM
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Idiot "tolarant"  liberals only need to speak.. Every one else just shut up and pay your taxes.

Quoting autodidact:how would it have been inclusive to have him there? but you probably have no problem with gays being excluded. 

Quoting darlingdaisy:

 How inclusive.  Gotta love how open minded libs are.  Their way or the highway.  I would bet money he was asked to withdraw.

 

 

..MoonShine..
by Bronze Member on Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM

HE made the decision to withdraw. His own people commented on it. Unless I see proof otherwise, I'm not buying into the whole "I bet he was asked to withdraw" stuff. If you look at the other post about this, I KNEW someone would try to turn it into that. LOL 

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