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Do you think ObamaCare resembles Fascism?

Posted by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:21 PM
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Whole Foods has played a key role in propelling organic foods into the mainstream. The specialty supermarket chain has more than 300 stores and plans to continue expanding. But outspoken founder and co-CEO John Mackey is not the crunchy granola liberal one might conjure while perusing aisles of earnestly labeled blue corn chips and gently misted red peppers.

In fact, he's a self-styled libertarian: a vegan who sells sustainably raised meat, a man who compares the government's health care overhaul to "fascism" but wants to improve American diets.

And he thinks big businesses have an obligation to change customers' perception that big corporations are "primarily selfish and greedy." (Not that he's opposed to profits. In fact, Whole Foods posted a 49 percent boost in quarterly earnings in November.)

Mackey sat down with Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep to discuss his philosophy and the new book he co-authored, Conscious Capitalism. Part 1 airs Wednesday, Part 2 on Thursday...

...What he doesn't think is right is President Obama's health overhaul and the new costs that coverage requirements will place on businesses.

When Inskeep asks him if he still thinks the health law is a form of socialism, as he's said before, Mackey responds:

"Technically speaking, it's more like fascism. Socialism is where the government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it — and that's what's happening with our health care programs and these reforms."

Still, Mackey sees room to cooperate with the administration on another front: efforts to reform the American diet, a pet project of first lady Michelle Obama.

"People in America are addicted to sugar, and to fat and to salt," he says, and as a nation, it's holding us back. "Food is intensely pleasurable, and people are afraid that if they change the way they eat, they'll stop having pleasure."

Still, he acknowledges how hard it can be to stick to a health-conscious diet. Restaurant meals, he says, rarely meet his personal dietary rules — not just no meat, but also no oil or refined flour. Luckily, Mackey jokes, there's a Whole Foods to be found wherever he travels.


Read Entire: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/01/16/169413848/whole-foods-founder-john-mackey-on-fascism-and-conscious-capitalism

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blues_pagan
by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM
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fas·cism

 noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralizedautocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>


In other words...no
nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:38 PM
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Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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Quoting nanaofsix531:

Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?

911 was certainly no picnic for Americans esp the families who lost loved ones.

nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:48 PM
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Ya well this  fascism subject is just as stupid as the Iraq one.

And who said anything about 911?Do you think the Iraq war was cause by 911?

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?

911 was certainly no picnic for Americans esp the families who lost loved ones.


susan115
by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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 Yes, I do.  Don't believe me?  Look at the history of Spain, especially after WWII.  Spain, did have a bit of clearity during the 1980's-1990's, but not now.  Please tell me am wrong, but I am not.  I spent most of my childhood living in Madrid, and living overseas until I was ready for college.  Oh! and you think Republicans are bad? Go be a middleclass person in Europe, especially women. They do not have many rights, second to men.  And, you will NEVER be allowed to move up in society.  But, then again I think and use my critical thinking skills, unlike many liberal women, who lack critical thinking skills, unless it involves reproduction rights. Still, they lack intrinsic values.  I'll bet blues_pagan has to look up that word!

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM
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Quoting nanaofsix531:

Ya well this  fascism subject is just as stupid as the Iraq one.

And who said anything about 911?Do you think the Iraq war was cause by 911?

I've addressed this issue @ length. Your radical views do not appeal to many Americans...thank goodness~

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?

911 was certainly no picnic for Americans esp the families who lost loved ones.


 

nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM

My radical views appeal to a majority of the American people.LOL

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Ya well this  fascism subject is just as stupid as the Iraq one.

And who said anything about 911?Do you think the Iraq war was cause by 911?

I've addressed this issue @ length. Your radical views do not appeal to many Americans...thank goodness~

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?

911 was certainly no picnic for Americans esp the families who lost loved ones.


 


rccmom
by Gold Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 9:00 PM

How would you consider it as fascism? I do realize some can see it as overly restrictive control, but at the same time, the same could possibly be said for any Federal Law, I guess.

The question is, is it dictorial? We actually had representatives voted for by the people of this country then vote on Obamacare. Like it or not, the majority voted yes for it. They are our elected officials, not an oligarchy. If we do not like it, they can get together the necessary numbers to overturn it.

So with those voting safeguards in place, I do not consider it fascism. Some may consider it overly restrictive, but then they need to work the system to change it. When we lose that system, we can talk about fascism.    

jcrew6
by Jenney on Jan. 16, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Who  said the Iraq war did? 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Not at all but do you think the Iraq war resembled a picnic with flowers and candy?


jcrew6
by Jenney on Jan. 16, 2013 at 9:18 PM

That would be a question for the CEO of whole foods to defend his opinion.  I'm merely asking what others think of his opinion...

Quoting rccmom:

How would you consider it as fascism? I do realize some can see it as overly restrictive control, but at the same time, the same could possibly be said for any Federal Law, I guess.

The question is, is it dictorial? We actually had representatives voted for by the people of this country then vote on Obamacare. Like it or not, the majority voted yes for it. They are our elected officials, not an oligarchy. If we do not like it, they can get together the necessary numbers to overturn it.

So with those voting safeguards in place, I do not consider it fascism. Some may consider it overly restrictive, but then they need to work the system to change it. When we lose that system, we can talk about fascism.    


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