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Gun Rights: When do we pick up arms and fight?
 

January 17, 2013

It was 2 a.m., raining hard and my Dolphin motorhome was leaking. I was a college kid with 18 hour days of school, work and racquetball, so it made sense to live in a motor home. It worked out well until the dripping began, so I found shelter at a strangely lit, abandoned gas station. I climbed on top of my motorhome equipped with a tube of silicone to fix the leak. There was a busy street in the distance, I felt safe to think I was visible to passing motorists but I grabbed my grandpa's old Remington handgun just the same. Half way through my repair, a man appeared under the light below me and approached my ladder with a menacing look in his eye. I told him to back off but he kept coming. I pulled out my gun, aimed right at him and repeated my orders. He froze and then quickly slinked off into the dark.

I read an article claiming weapons are rarely used in defense. On the contrary, it happens all the time. Was my story newsworthy? Would the camera crews roll up, microphones in hand? Did the world want to know exactly how close he came, how I held my gun and the puddle he left behind? Oh what a fascinating puddle, let's splash THAT all over the six o'clock news. No, my story is common, no blood, no headlines, but without God and my gun, I'm fairly certain I'd be just another missing person or dead body turning up. How many women were spared such an ending but didn't report it?

Another time I found myself walking a dark street, alone in a big city late at night, looking for a restaurant to catch up with my buddies. We were all unfamiliar with the area as we played racquetball tournaments all over the state. My last match went late into the night so I was trying to catch up to friends. Directions were hasty, the road was closed for construction, but I could see the restaurant a block away so I parked and walked past the equipment. A couple of men came out of the shadows and started trailing me. I stuck my hand in my purse and gripped the handle of my gun, was about to pull it but they seemed to read the move and suddenly stopped, muttered to each other and turned around. Criminals seem to be very astute at measuring their prey.

Is this newsworthy? No, but just because it's not sensational doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We live in a dangerous world with a false sense of security. The news will highlight ONE case of a missing person when there are tens of thousands missing under criminal or suspicious circumstances. Home invasions seem to be on the rise, but how would we know if we depend on the news?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" – Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." – Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." – Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188


As this is our forefather's intent, then we should be able to attain as much artillery as our military! As our legislators argue over what new restrictions to impose, I demand LESS! Taking guns away from law-abiding citizens is only going to VICTIMIZE law abiding citizens. When someone is shooting at you, you do not throw down your guns!

Anti-gun politicians naively ask, "What does anyone need automatic guns for?" Do they really not realize the affront our government has become? The 2nd Amendment is already infringed, Pelosi laughs at the thought of adhering to the Constitution, Obama calls it a "negative charter of liberties" as he positions his executive pen, and an awakening America remembers what happens in emerging communist countries after people's guns are taken away.

If we don't need ID to vote, why do we need ID to purchase guns? If $6 to provide proof of citizenship impedes a person's right to vote, then why doesn't gun fees and licenses impede their right to bear arms? In fact, if we MUST provide Sandra Fluke her condoms, then I demand our government provide my ammo!

And yet.

I urge you, America, do not fight. We may have every legal reason to pick up arms and fight, but be at peace. When our founding fathers prayed and beseeched God for help, there was a future for America, a purpose. For generations we have been a Light on the hill, we have blanketed the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. No other nation has sent out as many missionaries and charities in His name as America has. God had a purpose for us and gave us the opportunity to serve His Kingdom. But what has America become? For what purpose are we asking to be blessed? That Christians in other nations would continue to be brutally slaughtered as we fawn over Kim Kardashian? Slave markets, torture, the blood of the saints continually spilled while we, in America, care nothing except for our own pleasure? We are told to tolerate, our schools write in their standards to teach our children to compromise on everything, that there is no right or wrong, no good or bad, we throw down all understanding of God's heavenly Kingdom to trample it with secular humanism, applauding multiculturalists like Karen Armstrong who writes that "religion is manmade" in our textbooks and has set out to prove conclusively that Christianity is "bonkers" while applauding Islam. We pollute our children with made up fantasies that we evolved from primordial goo randomly, insist they repeat it as fact, warp their minds to atheist beliefs and then ask that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless our cause to regain this perversion called freedom? That modern America can continue on this path of inflicting the butcher of the unborn worldwide? That we can continue to spread pornography, homosexuality, Christian persecution in all four directions around the globe? What America has become in the past ten or twenty years, is that what we are asking God to uphold?

God told us through the prophets what is to come that we would believe and many of us have recognized the slow turn of the wheels which have begun. I believe we are being divided by the angels as they separate the wheat from the tares or weeds, indeed as they bundle the weeds for (future tense) burning (Matthew 13:30), but as is common in the Bible, it happens much more slowly than we expect. Did you wonder how we all seem to be so blind and deaf to each other's point of view, wonder how the other side cannot see what is obvious? I contend, this is why! They are being blinded as their time runs out, the separation is becoming distinct, depraved minds are falling deeper into their own depravity and they can't even comprehend they are falling.

And so our nation has fallen into decline. It is like we are all in a boat and certain ones among us insisted on boring holes in the bottom of that boat. We will all pay the consequences as we sink but God will not forget His own. When hunger comes, when chaos and thieving and unmitigated murder begins, we are to defend our families, our guns will be of use in the face of chaos, we are to have a sword! But just as there was a purpose for Christ laying down His life, when the law against Christians becomes the law of the land, we are to survive the chaos that we can then lay down our lives and give glory to God. For that we will be persecuted and killed. Some will wonder, "Where is God" but God is right here! Submit! Not to evil, but to God! Recognize that the end times are and will be upside down, that evil will be called good and good, evil; that much of what God told us is happening slowly. But have faith! Let not your heart be troubled for we were told of these things!

We will not win America back. Our choices will be: will we pick up our cross and follow Him or will we pick up arms and attempt to fight for a continuation of the liberal perversion of freedom, leaving a trail of blood behind us? Will we lay down our lives in the name of Christ? Saints, I think America has run it's course, and praise God for His blessing upon our nation that has brought so many worldwide to His Kingdom. Many of us are not ready to stop fighting for the cause, but I urge you, consider what that cause today truly is.

I will not fight to finance worldwide abortion mills, homosexuality, pedophilia, pornography, child slavery and everything that evil men have twisted "freedom" to mean. We have been corrupted from within and a darkness is coming, evil will appear to prevail but it will not succeed. We cannot fight this one world government that has already been laid out. We need to realize that it was foretold and keep faith. Hold your lamp high that all around you can see because your neighbors will need help in the coming days.

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs – heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God." (Romans 8)

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/shroder/130117

by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Replies (11-20):
PamR
by Platinum Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:56 AM
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WHO is suggesting that you can not have a gun to use for personal protection or for sport? 

No one.

Fear mongering.  You people live for it.  I have heard a number of sane republicans attempt to put distance between themselves and the crazy-ass survivalist faction of their party.  Keep it up because the tide has turned.  More Americans are now in favor of stricter controls on assault type weapons and on background checks.  Because reasonable people get it. 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:21 AM
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Quoting blondekosmic15:

How true this is...

My husband mentioned this to me recently { part in red }

quote>

It was 2 a.m., raining hard and my Dolphin motorhome was leaking. I was a college kid with 18 hour days of school, work and racquetball, so it made sense to live in a motor home. It worked out well until the dripping began, so I found shelter at a strangely lit, abandoned gas station. I climbed on top of my motorhome equipped with a tube of silicone to fix the leak. There was a busy street in the distance, I felt safe to think I was visible to passing motorists but I grabbed my grandpa's old Remington handgun just the same. Half way through my repair, a man appeared under the light below me and approached my ladder with a menacing look in his eye. I told him to back off but he kept coming. I pulled out my gun, aimed right at him and repeated my orders. He froze and then quickly slinked off into the dark.

I read an article claiming weapons are rarely used in defense. On the contrary, it happens all the time. Was my story newsworthy? Would the camera crews roll up, microphones in hand? Did the world want to know exactly how close he came, how I held my gun and the puddle he left behind? Oh what a fascinating puddle, let's splash THAT all over the six o'clock news. No, my story is common, no blood, no headlines, but without God and my gun, I'm fairly certain I'd be just another missing person or dead body turning up. How many women were spared such an ending but didn't report it?

Another time I found myself walking a dark street, alone in a big city late at night, looking for a restaurant to catch up with my buddies. We were all unfamiliar with the area as we played racquetball tournaments all over the state. My last match went late into the night so I was trying to catch up to friends. Directions were hasty, the road was closed for construction, but I could see the restaurant a block away so I parked and walked past the equipment. A couple of men came out of the shadows and started trailing me. I stuck my hand in my purse and gripped the handle of my gun, was about to pull it but they seemed to read the move and suddenly stopped, muttered to each other and turned around. Criminals seem to be very astute at measuring their prey.

Is this newsworthy? No, but just because it's not sensational doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We live in a dangerous world with a false sense of security. The news will highlight ONE case of a missing person when there are tens of thousands missing under criminal or suspicious circumstances. Home invasions seem to be on the rise, but how would we know if we depend on the news?

No one even thinks about the fact that if two are missing in each town across America it "could" go into the thousands.. And some might be single people who were considered "moved" or visiting.

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM

 

Quoting imamomzilla:

 That was good, blonde. :-) Thanks for posting.

This gave me a chuckle:

If we don't need ID to vote, why do we need ID to purchase guns? If $6 to provide proof of citizenship impedes a person's right to vote, then why doesn't gun fees and licenses impede their right to bear arms? In fact, if we MUST provide Sandra Fluke her condoms, then I demand our government provide my ammo!

 Common sense and logic lacking in many.....

sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM
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 The psychotic right

talking about bloody revolutions again

how very unamerican

jcribb16
by Primrose Foxglove on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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Thank you for sharing this.  One of the most important sayings of our different founding fathers, to me, is:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" – Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

mikiemom
by Silver Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM

 

They just don't see how fing crazy they are lol - it's sad and scary.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The psychotic right

talking about bloody revolutions again

how very unamerican


 

nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM
3 moms liked this

Amid the crazy reactions to President Obama’s gun control announcement yesterday comes the sanity of President Reagan’s Solicitor General Charles Fried, as Greg Sargent notes.

“These are either standard exercises of presidential power, or even more benignly, standard examples of the power of the president to exhort the public or state officials to be aware of certain problems and to address them”, Charles Fried, who was Reagan’s solicitor general during his second term, told me today.

Fried noted that some of the provisions are merely “use of the bully pulpit”. What he means is that provisions such as “launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign” and “challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies” to promote gun safety merely constitute the use of presidential stature to advocate. “If that’s an impeachable offense, then the president has just lost his first amendment rights”, Fried said.

Referring to provision number 11, Fried joked: “Is it an impeachable offense to nominate an ATF director?”

Of course, we should probably dismiss anything Fried has to say. These jokers in Congress today would have tried to impeach Reagan. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/16/reagans-solicitor-general-scoffs-at-rights-fantasy-about-obama-tyranny/

sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM

 You need ID to purchase many kinds of COUGH medicine...

You need a doctors prescrition for 800MG motrin...

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM
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Quoting PamR:

 

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting PamR:

 

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting PamR:

WHO is suggesting that you can not have a gun to use for personal protection or for sport? 

No one.

Fear mongering.  You people live for it.  I have heard a number of sane republicans attempt to put distance between themselves and the crazy-ass survivalist faction of their party.  Keep it up because the tide has turned.  More Americans are now in favor of stricter controls on assault type weapons and on background checks.  Because reasonable people get it. 

 You are the blind leading the blind....

Really?  How so?  Be specific please.

You say you are a Christian Pam. Read the Bible. In the past I have addressed your responses many times only for you to come back to ask the same question again.

quote>

"it happens much more slowly than we expect"

One of your trademark non-answers - telling!  What does my religion have to do with gun rights?  What is so Christian about owning a weapon that's only use is to efficiently kill humans?  We're not talking about personal protection or hunting Bambi.  Why does Jesus want us to have assault weapons? 

 

Frankly Pam I'm tired of responding to you because I have added lengthy comments to you in the past...many times. Then you accuse me later of never answering your question. Sometimes you mock me with your liberal friends. Eventually I learned you are not really interested in an opposing view. Why does Jesus permit evil ppl to do evil deeds!? Yes, we are talking about the type of weapons these evil ppl. use against us....our children & loved ones. Criminals will continue to purchase these weapons irrespective of laws enacted for law abiding citizens who deserve to protect themselves and their families. This is our Constitutional right. The Founding Fathers were deeply concerned about this. Obama's proposals will not prevent a massacre in our schools. Not even a band aid on the problem. This admin is blind to the real root of this violence. Long lines thru out America waiting to enter gun shows reveals millions of Americans do contemplate reality. They understand what is happening. I have noticed many liberals { not all } fail to understand the true sense of evil we are facing. The same analogy applies to terrorism. Your Party tends to be soft on violence and the dangers in our communities. Progressive liberal Judges give light sentences to violent criminals everyday in this Country. Rapists, child molesters etc. It's like there's a disconnect from the real world, a blindness so to speak. If Jesus had his way, the world would be a 'gun free' zone but He sees the violence and hatred in ppl's hearts. He encourages us to love our neighbors as ourselves. In doing so, we will do everything in our power to protect our own bodies from harm and those we love, esp our children. Continue to support this President, Pam. History will repeat herself. This Nation will reap what it has sown~

"he that hath no
sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

Luke 22:36~

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
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Quoting jcribb16:

How rude you are with your hateful words.  Just because it comes from what you term the "psychotic right."  No wonder some don't like trying to discuss anything with you.  I dare you to find just one thing in that article that is not un-american.  

Typical of her, Juju....

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The psychotic right

talking about bloody revolutions again

how very unamerican


 

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