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32-Year Veteran School Guard Leaves Gun In School Bathroom

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32-Year Veteran School Guard Leaves Gun In School Bathroom
2013/01/17
By McAllister




Students with guns @ SoonerPoll.com
The NRA made it clear – guns in schools will make them safe. “The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” Well, unless that good guy leaves his gun in the school’s bathroom so he can neither protect his charges nor keep them from having access to his gun.

On January 13th of this year…just four days ago the Chatfield School in Lapeer, Michigan followed the directive of the NRA…to the letter. They hired an armed guard, an experienced Sheriff’s Deputy to take charge of security for their 500 child school. The announcement said “Thirty-two year retired Sheriff’s deputy in charge” and it was observed by the local Tea Party spokesperson that “a visitor to Chatfield School might mistake Clark Arnold for a smiling, kindly grandfather waiting for one of its nearly 500 students.”





Arnold, a 32-year veteran of the Lapeer County Sheriff’s Dept., as well as a firearms instructor, has been hired by the 16-year-old charter school academy as the county’s first armed school security officer. The decision was applauded by Bruce Cady, a trustee on the Chatfield Board of Directors, who added, “Absolutely. The decision was made for the good of the kids. We took the wellbeing of the kids and their safety into consideration. The events that have been happening in the schools is [sic] very concerning and that’s why we took the action we did.”

Just three days later…a report from the Flint Journal says that “A security officer at a Lapeer charter school left a firearm unattended in a school bathroom on Monday, Jan. 14, a school official said.

Further, “the security officer “made a breach in security protocol” and left an unloaded weapon in a restroom for a few moments,” said Chatfield School Director Matt Young.

Young said the school has been in contact with local authorities about the matter and wouldn’t discuss any possible repercussion for the officer, calling it “a personnel matter.” Young also declined to name the security officer.

Lapeer resident Tris Fritz, who has children in third and fifth grade at the school said “I think that some kid might not think it’s a real gun. They might think it’s a toy. They’re going to be curious, that’s the nature of a child. I know people are human and they make mistakes,” Fritz added. “That’s kind of a big mistake.”

This brings back the question of responsibility…who is responsible for an error that can cause death?

The County prosecutor Byron Konschuh said since nobody was harmed, the incident likely would not constitute a criminal charge. So again…NOBODY. And the failures that kill nearly 500 children a year, failure to properly maintain control of your weapon continue…without consequences.
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by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 7:21 AM
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zuverlassig2jl
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Uh-Oh....this is just bad news on so many levels:( Such a vast multitude of social issues all rolled in to this one event/story). Time to find some good news, Fast!!

LuvmyAiden
by Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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What I want to know is HOW he managed that. Did he take his belt off while using the bathroom? Most cops and security hip carry so going to the bathroom isn't a big deal. If he took it out of the holster and set it somewhere that makes no sense and is inexcusable. As a civilian I have never made a mistake like this and I carry literally everyday so I want to know how an officer did this. If he is truly a veteran officer he needs to be explaining himself, NOW.

jessi2girls
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM
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" left an unloaded weapon in a restroom for a few moments,”

the gun was unloaded and wouldn't have harmed anyone! The author of this article, clearly missed that part or wouldn't have included the last line about statistics of children killed by weapons.. (which is a bullshit figure!  500 deaths is the number of deaths BY FIREARMS.. not accidental deaths!!  MOST of which are teenagers that die from gang related violence, and from suicide! In fact just over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.  8% were of children under the age of 6.. or about 104 deaths in a 5 year time period.  Most of these were again, actually older teens.. some from hunting accidents, some from misfires.. etc.).. 

so... what's that tell you about this article...? Someone didn't do their homework right!  I'd also like the original source who reported it! Because clearly this author is very biased and uniformed!

jessi2girls
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM
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A gun that is unloaded  can only be used as a club to cause death!  anyone could run down to the gym and get a baseball bat!  Just saying, this article is bullshit, read the facts before relying on biased material. 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

This brings back the question of responsibility…who is responsible for an error that can cause death?


Good question..


jessi2girls
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM
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mass shooters don't target places that allow armed guards because they aren't easy.. most mass shooters look for places where they won't be shot back at until they are ready to be (etc. by the police once they storm the place).. 

Quoting rccmom:

The more armed guards we have, the greater the chance for such mistakes, and worse. Plus, still no absolute guarantee of the school being safe from shooters.


morrigan914
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM
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That's why I believe we should teach gun safety to students.

mama2beautiesnb
by Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM
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Quoting alexsmomaubrys2:


and i dont understand why ppl think taking certain guns away will keep criminals from obtaining them.
jessi2girls
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM
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Oh that's bullshit..

the number of deaths of people 25 and under that have died ACCIDENTALLY by firearms is about 1300 in a 5 year time period.. only 8% of those are children under 6.  That's 260 a year..some of these are hunting related accidents (forgot to put safety on, shot of fellow hunter because they weren't wearing orange, etc)..  so honestly the number of children that get their hands on it on accident and hurting themselves is even lower NATION WIDE!!

In florida alone about 175 deaths each year (since 2005) were in self defense!  That's just in FLORIDA!  So yes.. 175 "bad guys".. and again.. that's just one STATE!

Not to mention that mass shootings take place in places where guns aren't typically allowed because they make for easy targets!!!!

There's your reality!!! That guns DO protect! More than they hurt UNINTENTIONALLY!


Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 The instances of children being shot and killed by guns that have been either left around or gotten into the hands of the wrong person (because it's owners were irresponsible) are far higher than a gun saving their lives from a bad guy.

It's getting to be absolutely insane.

And don't tell me that the protection from a hypothetical situation outweighs the REALITY that so many children die every year from irresponsible gun ownership.

In. Sane.


Simmeringhearts
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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Yea, because we know how many UNLOADED guns go around shooting people! Oh the outrage!


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

This brings back the question of responsibility…who is responsible for an error that can cause death?


Good question..



jessi2girls
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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considering most guns taken specific bullets, and the bullets are likely in the pockets of the security guy.. and it's HIGHLY unlikely that anyone in the school is carrying that particular bullet..

yeah it is a very big stretch!

Quoting mikiemom:

This is why guns should not be in our schools but hey, if a kid had gotten a hold of the gun finding bullets wouldn't have been a stretch hmm?


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