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We can't come off like a bunch of angry white men

Posted by on Jan. 25, 2013 at 10:22 PM
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CHARLOTTE, N.C.—Republican National Committee members gathered here to re-elect Chairman Reince Priebus for a second term. But by week's end, that vote seemed secondary to the question of the party's long-term survival.

After three months of denial, anger, despair and depression over the results of a bruising national election that gave Democrats an edge in Congress and kept President Barack Obama in the White House, Republicans know they must adapt if they are to move forward.

They acknowledge that it's time for a serious gut check (or, as Haley Barbour put it in November, a "proctology exam").

Whatever bodily metaphor you choose, the fact remains that the election so jolted and shocked the party that it is taking real steps to change.

And change it will! As soon as it figures out how.

While Republicans in Virginia and other battleground states launched an effort this week to alter Electoral College rules so that votes are doled out proportionately—which would likely give the GOP at least a short-term edge—GOP leaders here discussed their party's own shortcomings and sought areas of internal improvement.

Almost every conversation in the bar of the Charlotte Westin Hotel this week involved a discussion about what the party must do to win the next elections. Floating through the air is a desire to recapture glorious days of the past, a challenge made difficult by a country that refuses to stand still. Demographics are changing, minorities are growing in political influence and views on social issues like gay marriage are drifting rapidly leftward. Something's got to give.

Bring in the Bobs

Enter the RNC's five-person "Growth and Opportunity" committee, an ethnically diverse cadre of political veterans and RNC members analyzing what the party must to do avoid another 2012-like drubbing. (Think of them as The Bobs from "Office Space," but with American flag lapel pins.)

The group includes Henry Barbour, a Mississippi committeeman and Haley Barbour's nephew; former George W. Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer; Florida strategist Sally Bradshaw; South Carolina committeeman Glenn McCall and Puerto Rico committeewoman Zori Fonalledas. They will submit a detailed report in March that looks back on the 2012 election and forward to 2014 and 2016.

"You're going to see a very renewed aggressive effort by this party to put on a different face," Bradshaw said on Thursday. "We've got to find a way to take our message to more people and get more votes. It's not a particularly complicated formula. We got beat; we have to change what we're doing."

The report is a work in progress, and only part of it will be made public, but The Bobs delivered an update on their findings on Thursday to the RNC members.

First, they said Republicans must work on improving their tone when taking their ideas to the American people. For example, when discussing immigration, maybe presidential candidates should avoid phrases like "self-deportation" (Mitt Romney) and "anchor babies" (Michele Bachmann).

Henry Barbour said some in the party can appear "hostile" to certain constituencies with the rhetoric they use. The party must increase communication training for candidates, he said.

"There are certainly too many times when we've had candidates who have come across as hostile, and that's not really helpful when you're trying to win elections," Barbour said.

Robert Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party, was even more blunt.

"We need to understand that we can't come off as a bunch of angry white men," he said.

Minority 'engagement' a top priority

Making an honest effort to engage minorities was above anything else the main, yet unofficial, focus of party leaders this week.

On Thursday, committee members took part in a closed-door panel discussion on minority engagement. Edward Cousar, a black committeeman from South Carolina who sat on the panel, said white Republicans struggle in part because they spend too much time with other white Republicans. They have little idea how to speak or interact in a way that appears welcoming to outsiders who come from different ethnic and social backgrounds.

"People get set in their ways, and maybe they don't have a diverse set of friends and they say things," Cousar told Yahoo News in an interview before the panel. "It's not that they're being racist. They just don't know."

Cousar, who leads the Black Republican Political Action Committee, pointed to past Republican efforts to suppress early voting—"shameful," he said—and Romney's writing off of 47 percent of the country as unwinnable.

"I always thought Romney had better policies," Cousar, who is the only Republican in his family, said, comparing Romney and Obama. "But he was a horrible messenger."

In November, Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote and more than 95 percent of black voters supported him. Single women also fled the Republican party on Election Day, with about two-thirds supporting the Democrat. It's a serious problem for Republicans, one they admit will take a lot of time to overcome.

"It's not going to happen overnight," said McCall, a black member of the study group. "But it can be done, and we're going to make that effort."

No more witches

Part of that effort relies heavily on recruiting quality candidates, many attendees said.

For the past four years, Republicans have faced a series of disappointing setbacks after mediocre candidates—often tea party favorites—have gone on to lose very winnable elections.

They include Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin, who lost a Missouri Senate race last year and forced Romney and other Republicans on the defensive over women's issues.

In 2010, Nevada's Sharron "Second Amendment Remedies" Angle and Delaware's Christine "I'm Not A Witch" O'Donnell lost Senate races Republicans had been expected to win.

The party hopes to take steps to avoid such catastrophes.

Republicans say if that means supporting a moderate candidate who can actually win over a hardline conservative who doesn't stand a chance, so be it. (You may have noticed that among the names that make up The Bobs, there isn't anyone who might be considered a "tea party leader.")

"If we're not nominating candidates that can win in the general election, what business are we in?" Barbour said. "We are in the business of winning elections."

There is one thing, however, that no one—not the committee members, elected officials or even The Bobs—seem interested in addressing, and that's whether core Republican ideas need to change.

Most here said they don't.

"The conservative message sells," said Saul Anuzis, the former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party. "We're on the right side of history, on the right side of the issues. We just haven't done a very good job on articulating the issues."

Anuzis' analysis is pretty universal in Republican circles. They see the true cause of their problems as merely poor presentations of otherwise good ideas.

That means a tricky rhetorical sleight of hand.

Don't believe women should have access to an abortion if they are raped or victims of incest? Try not to talk about it. Think the 47 percent of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes are "takers"? Please don't quote Ayn Rand in your stump speech. Support laws banning gay couples from legal rights guaranteed to straight couples? Keep it in the closet. And remember, when in doubt, pivot and talk about economic growth.

Barbour admitted his committee wasn't brought in to debate or change those policy ideas. Their task, he said, is to put Republicans on a path to win election—not a squishy exercise in lazy pontificating or a dorm room bull session about the proper role of government.

It's data driven.

It's going to hurt some feelings.

And most of all, it's damn serious.

"We did get whipped in the presidential election," Barbour said. "That's not something we take lightly."
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sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Jan. 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM
"The conservative message sells," said Saul Anuzis, the former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party. "We're on the right side of history, on the right side of the issues. We just haven't done a very good job on articulating the issues."

Anuzis' analysis is pretty universal in Republican circles. They see the true cause of their problems as merely poor presentations of otherwise good ideas.

That means a tricky rhetorical sleight of hand.

Proving they still don't get it
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Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 2:41 AM
Quoting sweet-a-kins:


The party must increase communication training for candidates, he said.

"[...]

Don't believe women should have access to an abortion if they are raped or victims of incest? Try not to talk about it. Think the 47 percent of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes are "takers"? Please don't quote Ayn Rand in your stump speech. Support laws banning gay couples from legal rights guaranteed to straight couples? Keep it in the closet. And remember, when in doubt, pivot and talk about economic growth.

Having candidates who don't spill the beans would certainly help.

But I think that tactic is going to become increasingly hard to pull off in an age where it only takes one person with a mobile phone to video a private strategy session, where emails get hacked, and where there is close scrutiny of candidates blogs, tweets and personal websites.

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM
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Quoting sweet-a-kins:


First, they said Republicans must work on improving their tone when taking their ideas to the American people. For example, when discussing immigration, maybe presidential candidates should avoid phrases like "self-deportation" (Mitt Romney) and "anchor babies" (Michele Bachmann).

"We need to understand that we can't come off as a bunch of angry white men," he said.

Minority 'engagement' a top priority

Making an honest effort to engage minorities was above anything else the main, yet unofficial, focus of party leaders this week.

On Thursday, committee members took part in a closed-door panel discussion on minority engagement. Edward Cousar, a black committeeman from South Carolina who sat on the panel, said white Republicans struggle in part because they spend too much time with other white Republicans. They have little idea how to speak or interact in a way that appears welcoming to outsiders who come from different ethnic and social backgrounds.

"In November, Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote and more than 95 percent of black voters supported him.

Republicans say if that means supporting a moderate candidate who can actually win over a hardline conservative who doesn't stand a chance, so be it. (You may have noticed that among the names that make up The Bobs, there isn't anyone who might be considered a "tea party leader.")

If the Republicans change the mechanism used to select candidates so that extreme activist elements (eg the Tea Party) no longer have sufficient numerical advantage to get selected "hardline" candidates (aka "angry white men"), that would be much more effective than trying to take a group of angry white men and attempt to teach them not to reveal to the media that they are angry white men.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM
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Especially if we are angry black men. Or angry women of any race. Or kids.

Or even actual angry men who happen to be white.

Not a good idea for anyone to be racist. And anger is protected speech under the First Amendment. God knows Progressives are NEVER angry OR racist.

Ha.

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 2:58 AM
Quoting sweet-a-kins:


views on social issues like gay marriage are drifting rapidly leftward. Something's got to give.


They include Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin, who lost a Missouri Senate race last year and forced Romney and other Republicans on the defensive over women's issues.


Don't believe women should have access to an abortion if they are raped or victims of incest? Try not to talk about it.

Barbour admitted his committee wasn't brought in to debate or change those policy ideas. Their task, he said, is to put Republicans on a path to win election—not a squishy exercise in lazy pontificating or a dorm room bull session about the proper role of government.

I think the Republicans are going to have a much harder job winning the "single female" sector, despite their insistence that no "war on women" exists.  The reason I think this is that religion does appear to be a "core" value for the GOP, and the sort of religion that is patriarchal.   Republicans, by and large, don't believe in a freedom to choose, and they're not about to change their mind on something they view as equivalent to genocide, even if it costs them an election.

timeforprogress
by Bronze Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 3:24 AM
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They would have to stop being angry white men first.  They pushed out Michael Steele, and replaced him with a rich white privileged "yes" man.  You have to except the disease before you can tackle it. 

The Democrats are actually starting to change their tactics.  If the moderate Republicans continue to let the crazies run the party, they will lose the south.  The Democrats are running high tech grass roots campaigns to mobilize the latin vote, and the Republican solution is to accuse the Democrats of wanting immigration reform so they can get more votes from all the newly legalized citizens.  Yea, so that is how populous movements work. 

They have to realize that the problem is that they are angry white dudes afraid of the changing demographics of our nation.  Angry white dudes have been a cog in the wheel of change for some time.  Took abolitionist a few hundred years to do away with slavery then it took another 100 years before we gave the descendants of slaves a real chance at success.  Just take a look at how freaked out people get when we are actually honest about the problems angry greedy white men have caused, and as sociology and psychology observational and experimental data demonstrates the problems still exist.  Any woman on this board who has ever tried to break into a male dominated field understands what angry white men are like.  I have yet to meet one who has experienced these careers and not experienced some sort of discrimination with some sexual harassment on the side.  Some of us have even had some brushes with sexual assault and being accused of asking for it. 

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 4:08 AM
Quoting SallyMJ:

Or even actual angry men who happen to be white.

Bear in mind that the phrase "angry white men" came from a Republican.   Don't get caught up on  it, thinking of it as an attack.

You could expand the phrase to be "healthy non-disabled rich Christian white English-speaking heterosexual angry old men" if you like,

Or you could replace it with "the historically empowered", "the historically privileged" or "the historically advantaged".  Ie people belonging to the groups that have faced less systematic institutionalised discrimination against them, in the past, than others.  The people who have benfitted disproportionately from the status quo.  The establishment.

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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Why is the tea party extremist?  And whenever I read an article referencing the demise of one party or the other, I have wasted my time.

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting sweet-a-kins:


First, they said Republicans must work on improving their tone when taking their ideas to the American people. For example, when discussing immigration, maybe presidential candidates should avoid phrases like "self-deportation" (Mitt Romney) and "anchor babies" (Michele Bachmann).

"We need to understand that we can't come off as a bunch of angry white men," he said.

Minority 'engagement' a top priority

Making an honest effort to engage minorities was above anything else the main, yet unofficial, focus of party leaders this week.

On Thursday, committee members took part in a closed-door panel discussion on minority engagement. Edward Cousar, a black committeeman from South Carolina who sat on the panel, said white Republicans struggle in part because they spend too much time with other white Republicans. They have little idea how to speak or interact in a way that appears welcoming to outsiders who come from different ethnic and social backgrounds.

"In November, Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote and more than 95 percent of black voters supported him.

Republicans say if that means supporting a moderate candidate who can actually win over a hardline conservative who doesn't stand a chance, so be it. (You may have noticed that among the names that make up The Bobs, there isn't anyone who might be considered a "tea party leader.")

If the Republicans change the mechanism used to select candidates so that extreme activist elements (eg the Tea Party) no longer have sufficient numerical advantage to get selected "hardline" candidates (aka "angry white men"), that would be much more effective than trying to take a group of angry white men and attempt to teach them not to reveal to the media that they are angry white men.


sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Did you not understand what was posted? this is the republican breakdown of what happened, they see themselves as angry white men...

Quoting SallyMJ:

Especially if we are angry black men. Or angry women of any race. Or kids.

Or even actual angry men who happen to be white.

Not a good idea for anyone to be racist. And anger is protected speech under the First Amendment. God knows Progressives are NEVER angry OR racist.

Ha.


sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM
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Ask the republicans that said that

but their leader in congress is Michelle Bachman...which is ehibit A

Quoting Carpy:

Why is the tea party extremist?  And whenever I read an article referencing the demise of one party or the other, I have wasted my time.

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting sweet-a-kins:


First, they said Republicans must work on improving their tone when taking their ideas to the American people. For example, when discussing immigration, maybe presidential candidates should avoid phrases like "self-deportation" (Mitt Romney) and "anchor babies" (Michele Bachmann).

"We need to understand that we can't come off as a bunch of angry white men," he said.

Minority 'engagement' a top priority

Making an honest effort to engage minorities was above anything else the main, yet unofficial, focus of party leaders this week.

On Thursday, committee members took part in a closed-door panel discussion on minority engagement. Edward Cousar, a black committeeman from South Carolina who sat on the panel, said white Republicans struggle in part because they spend too much time with other white Republicans. They have little idea how to speak or interact in a way that appears welcoming to outsiders who come from different ethnic and social backgrounds.

"In November, Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote and more than 95 percent of black voters supported him.

Republicans say if that means supporting a moderate candidate who can actually win over a hardline conservative who doesn't stand a chance, so be it. (You may have noticed that among the names that make up The Bobs, there isn't anyone who might be considered a "tea party leader.")

If the Republicans change the mechanism used to select candidates so that extreme activist elements (eg the Tea Party) no longer have sufficient numerical advantage to get selected "hardline" candidates (aka "angry white men"), that would be much more effective than trying to take a group of angry white men and attempt to teach them not to reveal to the media that they are angry white men.



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