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What means would you use to enforce communism?

Posted by on Feb. 3, 2013 at 2:14 PM
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Since communism goes against human nature, how would you (those of you who think communism is so wonderful) go about enforcing compliance?  Just curious.

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by Gold Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM
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by Blonde on Feb. 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM
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 Will be interesting to hear, Carpy....

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by Platinum Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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Would be, but I doubt our resident communism lovers will answer.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 Will be interesting to hear, Carpy....


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by Blonde on Feb. 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM
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Quoting Carpy:

Would be, but I doubt our resident communism lovers will answer.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 Will be interesting to hear, Carpy....


I recall the term 'pink communist' during the 20th Century. Those who are soft on Communism but skirt around the label of actually being called a communist. Sympathetic to Communism. Today they prefer Progressive liberal or Socialist next to their name.

PamR
by Gold Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM
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Oh God.

Where communism posts go, BK is sure to follow.

p.s.  a progressive and/or liberal does not equal a communist; it doesn't even necessarily equal a socialist.

rccmom
by Gold Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM
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You are right in that communism goes against human nature. The only successful communist groups I can think of are small and religious in nature. You have the Kibbutzim, and then the early Christian church in the NT was communistic in nature. The only way to have it successful is for people in the group to want it.

Humans are by nature greedy though, and it is not enough to have merely enough, to each according to his needs, but we want more than enough. And more than that, we want to know we have more than someone else. Communism stifles the individual because if you can't have the reward of having more than your neighbor in the end, then most do not want to work for it. That is why most communistic groups, to be successful, are more likely to be religious, or at least above individual greed.

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by Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM
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Note: I don't think communism is wonderful.  :)  BUT I think it's an interesting question--the obvious answer being that many things about living under any system of government goes against the natural inclinations of those who are part of it (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "human nature") so I would imagine the same methods of compliance enforcement would be used for communism as are used for any of them--why should communism be any different?  In a related note, I read a really fascinating book once where one of the countries in the book lacked a central government entirely, along with any associated laws, police force, military, etc--how the author imagined its people functioning anyway, with what leashes, was very thought-provoking.  Social stigma and acceptance, for example--it was expected of everyone that once every ten days or so, each person would spend a day doing the drudgery-style work that absolutely nobody wants to do of their own inclination but that's required for any city-style population--there was absolutely no form of either material or physical punishment or reward, but very few people were willing to be known as the person who simply didn't bother doing it, so for the very most part it got done. 

Clairwil
by Gold Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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Quoting Carpy:

Since communism goes against human nature, how would you (those of you who think communism is so wonderful) go about enforcing compliance?  Just curious.

How are you defining communism today?

I seem to remember you use it to mean either "Hardline Stalin-like dictatorship murdering millions of victims" or "identical to any form of socialism, however mild", depending upon your mood.


Clairwil
by Gold Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 10:20 PM

BUMP!

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 10:41 PM
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Well, as long as you also understand that a progressive/liberal (communist lite?) also doesn't qualify as being able to make anyone serious about their personal freedom and their rights play nice with them.


Quoting PamR:

Oh God.

Where communism posts go, BK is sure to follow.

p.s.  a progressive and/or liberal does not equal a communist; it doesn't even necessarily equal a socialist.


 

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