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Alabama Man Holding 5-Year-Old Boy Hostage ‘Listened to a Lot of Conservative Talk Radio’

Posted by on Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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Alabama Man Holding 5-Year-Old Boy Hostage ‘Listened to a Lot of Conservative Talk Radio’

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Jim Lee Dykes, 65, gunned down a 66-year-old bus driver named Charles Albert Poland Jr. and abducted a 5-year-old boy he’s still holding hostage in his bunker on his Alabama property. The Vietnam-era veteran is described as someone who listened to conservative radio and didn’t like government, starting with Obama.

The AP reported:

Michael Creel said Dykes kept to himself and listened to a lot of conservative talk radio.

“He was very into what’s going on with the nation and the politics and all the laws being made. The things he didn’t agree with, he would ventilate,” he said.

James Arrington, police chief of the neighboring town of Pinckard, put it differently.

“He’s against the government, starting with Obama on down,” he said.

Dykes also has been arrested for possession of marijuana and neighbors say he once killed a dog with a lead pipe. According to neighbors, he patrols his yard with a flashlight and a firearm, threatening to shoot children who step foot on his property.

Ironically, given his hatred of government, Dykes lives in a FEMA trailer on his rural property.

“I think he’s just a really angry and bitter guy with some anger management issues,” Morris Dees of Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery told the AP. “He is just against everything – the government and his neighbors.”

Against everything. That pretty much sums up the anti-government, Obama hating, conservative mantra.

While it’s certainly unfair to paint everyone who listens to talk radio with the same brush, it also can’t be ignored that this scenario is far from isolated. Far too often, we’re finding violent criminals who listen to conservative radio, which deliberately feeds into their paranoia and anger in order to make a profit.

A new report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center determined that violent attacks by right-wing groups and individuals have increased by 400% since 1990, and increased dramatically in the last five years. They write, “There are three major ideological movements within the American violent far right: a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.”

The study also finds a correlation between a contentious political environment and ideological empowerment (another service of the epistemic closure inherent in the right wing media bubble) with increasing levels of violence.

While the shock jocks make money off of scaring their base with malignant seeds of hate, they’re also scaring mentally ill people and reinforcing their sense of helplessness and hopelessness — both of which can drive people on the edge into taking action on their feelings (nothing left to lose).

Conservative talk radio isn’t responsible for the murder Dyke committed or the kidnapping of an innocent 5-year-old boy, but it’s long past the time for conservative shock jocks to have a come to Jesus moment where they do the civilized thing of questioning if they are taking things too far.

The question should be asked, if this is not their intention, then why nottone it down a notch? If they don’t mean to frighten their listeners into believing that an evil man is running the government and coming for them, then why preach that very message day after day. If they don’t mean for half of the people targeted by their rhetoric to get death threats, then why do they continue on the same path and expect different results?

Yes, they are free to say whatever they want. And that’s what children do – they say whatever they want. Grown ups consider the consequences, even if they have a right to do something. Having the right to indoctrinate vulnerable people with hate does not absolve the speaker from his or her moral and ethical responsibilities to society. Preaching terror day after day to vulnerable people has consequences.

Update 5:35 PM: MSNBC is reporting that the stand off is over, the young boy is thankfully okay and the suspect is dead.

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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:21 PM
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And the point of this anecdote IS?

And Jared Loughner was apolitical.

And the Occupy protesters were all liberals.

So? Does that mean all are representative of the whole? No. Are some mentally ill people liberal, and some conservative, and some apolitical? Of course.

If you were to ask the political affiliation of all those who murdered 532 people in Chicago in 2012, what would you find? Well, most of them were black on black crime - where victim and perpetrator are both liberal. And the point IS? That all liberals are violent? Of course not.

The vast majority of people in the US are law abiding. Conservatives, liberals, libertarians, independents, etc. Looking at the information with some logic will yield a more reasonable conclusion than making a bad assumpion.

As my dad used to say, "When you assume, you make an a$$ out of you and me." It's true.

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM
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So do a lot of other people.  Does that mean we are all going to kill bus drivers and hold a child hostage?

trippyhippy
by Silver Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Not suprised.

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:14 PM
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 Another case of a mentally disturbed man.  If the left wing zealots, ACLU, psychiatrists, and every other do-gooder, hadn't taken away the ability of the police, or family members to have people they believe to be extremely dangerous to themselves or others put in a psych ward for evaluation, then just maybe these kinds of things could be averted.

nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Oh BS! It was con's defunding mental health that cased the problem.


Quoting grandmab125:

 Another case of a mentally disturbed man.  If the left wing zealots, ACLU, psychiatrists, and every other do-gooder, hadn't taken away the ability of the police, or family members to have people they believe to be extremely dangerous to themselves or others put in a psych ward for evaluation, then just maybe these kinds of things could be averted.


soonergirl980
by Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM
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Yes, I'm sure it was conservative radio's fault lets ban all conservative talk radio to save everyone.....smdh

Imacakebaker
by on Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:34 PM
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Quoting soonergirl980:

Yes, I'm sure it was conservative radio's fault lets ban all conservative talk radio to save everyone.....smdh

 As the ones complaining and accusing are all watching MSNBC

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:08 PM
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 Hardly.  Defunding started in the 60's.  Wouldn't that have been the dems?

The tragedy in Connecticut has reopened a difficult debate over whether states should be allowed to involuntarily commit the mentally ill.

The trend over the decades has been to release mental health patients, with a number of court cases restricting involuntary commitment. Last week’s deadly rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School exposed cracks and inconsistencies within the nation’s mental health system. Many say that until those problems are fixed, it’s only a matter of time before another national nightmare unfolds.

“It’s a cultural and mental health problem and it’s something we need to address soon and seriously,” former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge told Fox News. “We need to balance individual rights with the needs of the community.”

Ironically, a Connecticut mental health bill calling for changes that could have taken someone like shooter Adam Lanza off the streets was defeated earlier this year in the state legislature. The bill would have allowed the state to commit someone if there was a reason to think that would prevent them from harming others.

Reports of Lanza’s mental health have varied. One source told FoxNews.com that Lanza may have snapped because his mother was trying, despite the difficulties, to commit him to a psychiatric facility.

A senior law enforcement official confirmed Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for "his future mental health treatment" is being looked at as a possible motive. Police said they had no evidence Lanza had been medicated when the killings occurred. But even if Lanza had a proven history of mental illness, having him forcibly committed would have been nearly impossible.

Connecticut is one of a handful of states in America that does not have an “assisted outpatient treatment” law. Under AOT laws, like the kind proposed and ignored earlier this year in Connecticut, states can force a mentally ill person into treatment if there is a risk of harm to others. Without them, states typically cannot institutionalize someone unless they’ve already done harm to themselves or others.

Confusion occurs because there isn’t a uniform code used for involuntary confinement.

In New Hampshire, for example, a doctor’s note is enough to trigger an initial confinement but the person requesting the lock-up must then present evidence before a district judge within three days showing probable cause or the patient walks.

It took a bloody massacre on the campus of Virginia Tech before mental health laws there were beefed up. The tragedy-driven changes included tightening procedures for mandatory outpatient treatment and increased state funding for mental health services. Prior to the 2007 shooting, Virginia had some of the loosest mental health laws in the nation.

In the days following the January 2011 Tucson, Ariz., shootings, friends, classmates and family members of Jared Loughner spoke out about how mentally disturbed he was – but state authorities were virtually powerless to stop him until he killed.

“Everybody knew he was a grenade about to go off,” Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said. “We have moved so radically the last 50 years to making it difficult to commit people who are dangerous. There has to be a shift in the other direction.”

After the shootings, Loughner was diagnosed with schizophrenia and underwent forcible psychotropic drug treatments. His court-appointed psychologist said he remains severely mentally ill.

Another problem plaguing the country’s ailing mental health system have been cutbacks in funding.

According to the Center for Public Policy Priorities, the national average for spending on mental health services is $109 a person. Texas spends just $36 and ranks last in the country. The Texas Department of State Health Services is asking for a $100 million increase in their budget but the likelihood of that happening is slim. In their last session, state lawmakers cut $25 million from mental health programs.

In recent years many states have also had to shut down their mental health facilities – citing budgetary concerns.

“Our mental health system has completely failed individuals with severe mental illness and their communities,” Doris Fuller, executive director at the Treatment Advocacy Center, said. “We have emptied the nation’s hospitals, gutted state and local mental health programs and turned involuntary treatment into a debate point instead of using it as a viable option to prevent tragedy involving those too ill to help themselves.”

The TAC estimates that 97 percent of the public hospital beds once set aside for mentally ill patients are no longer operational.

The Fairfield State Hospital in Newtown, Conn., located only a few miles away from Friday’s deadly shooting, closed its doors in 1995. At its peak, the hospital housed more than 4,000 patients. In 2004, the town of Newton bought the property from the state. Since then the Canaan House -- the building where patients were treated and housed – has been home to the town’s Board of Education, Planning & Zoning and Fire Marshall.

Separately, allegations of corruption and brutality have long plagued state-run hospitals. Tales of barbaric methods used to treat and sedate patients prompted a backlash by civil rights advocates. As a result, funding was slashed even more and stricter laws were put into place to prevent abuse.

“Some of those people should have never been in the hospital to begin with,” Fuller told FoxNews.com. “But as a result, we made it too hard to get into the hospitals and those people who were acutely ill or had a chronic illness couldn’t qualify to be committed.”

Even though Connecticut has been recognized as having one of the country’s best community mental health systems for adults, there have been warning signs that date back a decade that show people who needed services weren’t getting them.

In the mid 1990s, the state downsized and shuttered state mental hospitals that tended to warehouse patients rather than focus on recovery. The money saved from closures was not reinvested to create an effective community-based mental health safety net, a 2004 Connecticut Mental Health Cabinet Report found.

It’s estimated there are about 600,000 adults with mental illness in Connecticut, including 135,000 who suffer from a serious mental illness.

In 2010, the Children’s Services Working Group said the state had a child mental health crisis. The report found that 200,000 children struggle with a diagnosable mental illness but only 25 percent of them had access to services they needed.

“Our state largely depends on a wait-to-fail approach," the report found.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/22/connecticut-killings-reopen-debate-on-mental-illness/#ixzz2JzRIFEQz

 

Quoting nanaofsix531:

Oh BS! It was con's defunding mental health that cased the problem.


Quoting grandmab125:

 Another case of a mentally disturbed man.  If the left wing zealots, ACLU, psychiatrists, and every other do-gooder, hadn't taken away the ability of the police, or family members to have people they believe to be extremely dangerous to themselves or others put in a psych ward for evaluation, then just maybe these kinds of things could be averted.


 

grandma B

29again
by Gold Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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I listen to talk radio while I am at work...... today's music is horrible and I can't stand to listen to country. 


btw, what is the source of this opinion piece?  Why not give credit to the author?

1Giovanni
by Bronze Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

My husband listens to conservative radio, it makes him very angry. I just remind him that most of it are lies, don't get hooked into it. He isn't conservative, so I have no clue why he listens to it. 

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