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KRUGMAN: ACTUALLY, WE REALLY DO NEED DEATH PANELS, HIGHER TAXES

Posted by on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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Nobel Prize winning “economist” Paul Krugman spoke at Sixth & I Historic Synagogue in Washington, D.C. last week. During the Q&A session following the lecture, an audience member asked him about the rising national debt.

Earlier in the evening, Krugman had already vocalized his satisfaction at President Obama’s apparent lack of concern over the exploding cumulative deficit. However, in a moment of brutal honesty, the esteemed Princeton professor revealed his long term prognosis. According to the professor,

Eventually we do have a problem. That the population is getting older, health care costs are rising…there is this question of how we’re going to pay for the programs. The year 2025, the year 2030, something is going to have to give…. ….
We’re going to need more revenue…Surely it will require some sort of middle class taxes as well.. We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes… on the middle class, maybe a value added tax…
And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits . So the snarky version…which I shouldn’t even say because it will get me in trouble is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.

Years of accumulating debt and expanding government programs only moves us down the “road to serfdom.” As Krugman surmised, the consequence is government confiscation of wealth and government control over health care. Rarely are Leftists so candid in articulating their hopes.

“Death panels and sales taxes” is the mantra of those seizing power in the nation founded on the rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” What a difference two centuries makes. 

This opens Krugman up to charges of hypocrisy, since he called the "death panel" accusation a "smear" in a March 22, 2010 column and an example of the "dishonesty" of Obama-care opponents in a June 29, 2012 column. Does Krugman accept Sarah Palin's argument that Obamacare's cost containment strategy will require health-care rationing after all?


http://www.mrc.org/articles/paul-krugman-sees-racial-hate-mongering-opposition-obama-care

by on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM
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Surprise, surprise.

Paul Krugman, Obama's favorite economist, in 2010, said the concept of the "death panel" was a "racist hate-mongering smear" on Obamacare. But he now admits it actually is the truth. 

Do you think he will apologize to Palin? Somehow, I think that is unlikely.

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

 Seriously? There is no Gotcha! moment here. Based on Krugman's previous comment about docking healthcare that has no demonstrated medical benefits and his use of the word "snarky", it's pretty obvious he was being facetious.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:29 PM
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Not really. Read it in context. And remember he was answering a Q&A of community members.

There is no humor meant here - except maybe he should find a more PC term for "death panels". 

It doesn't even take an English major to interpret this. But it helps being one. At your service.

PamR
by Gold Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 6:58 PM
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Quote:

And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits .
So this addresses the issue of when doctors and families make the decision to stop continue trying to treat a medical condition that isn't going to improve.  As with elderly people whose health is failing due to old age, possibly complicated by another condition - is it more advantageous for the doctors to continue to try to treat the person, even though they know they are  likely going to die soon, or to make them comfortable and allow nature to take it's course?  And I'm not speaking just in terms of cost.  For some reason, docs sometimes just don't want to quit when they know that the person is going to die anyway - is it better, from both a cost viewpoint, as well as a humanitarian viewpoint, to quit trying to conquer the disease and treat the person to keep the comfortable until they pass?  I actually had a discussion about this a few days ago with a friend who is a social worker in a hospice.  WIth a population that is going to have a lot of elderly in the not distant future, it's something that needs to be addressed.
Carpy
by Platinum Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 7:09 PM
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Krugman is a shifty eyed little twit who is historically, always wrong.  But he is right on this if we continue on the path to Obamacare.  The problem is, he wants it.  He is above us peons

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Feb. 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM

 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 That is all.

Quoting SallyMJ:

Not really. Read it in context. And remember he was answering a Q&A of community members.

There is no humor meant here - except maybe he should find a more PC term for "death panels". 

It doesn't even take an English major to interpret this. But it helps being one. At your service.

 

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Feb. 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

 

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 That is all.

Intelligent response!?

Quoting SallyMJ:

Not really. Read it in context. And remember he was answering a Q&A of community members.

There is no humor meant here - except maybe he should find a more PC term for "death panels". 

It doesn't even take an English major to interpret this. But it helps being one. At your service.

 

 

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on Feb. 18, 2013 at 3:05 PM

 Oh please. Find someone else to bother.

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 That is all.

Intelligent response!?

Quoting SallyMJ:

Not really. Read it in context. And remember he was answering a Q&A of community members.

There is no humor meant here - except maybe he should find a more PC term for "death panels". 

It doesn't even take an English major to interpret this. But it helps being one. At your service.

 

 

 

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Feb. 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM
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Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 Oh please. Find someone else to bother.

Another intelligent response.....

Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 That is all.

Intelligent response!?

Quoting SallyMJ:

Not really. Read it in context. And remember he was answering a Q&A of community members.

There is no humor meant here - except maybe he should find a more PC term for "death panels". 

It doesn't even take an English major to interpret this. But it helps being one. At your service.

 

 

 

 

steviechick
by Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM
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Idiot Liberals like Krugman are already starting to eat their own words.  Doesn't surprise me one bit.

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