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ZIMMERMAN PROSECUTORS: TRAYVON MARTIN'S GIRLFRIEND LIED UNDER OATH

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Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the lead witness against George Zimmerman in his second-degree murder trial, lied under oath, according to lawyers on both sides of the case. 

State prosecutors admitted Tuesday that Martin's girlfriend falsely claimed she was in the hospital on the day of Martin's funeral, committing perjury. 

This admission greatly damages the credibility of Martin's girlfriend, whom Martin called on the night Zimmerman shot and killed him, for this is not the first time she has been caught lying.

Identified as "witness 8" in records, Martin's girlfriend told Trayon Martin's family attorney Benjamin Crump in a recorded interview that she was 16 years of age right after Martin's passing. She was in fact 18 years of age at the time Martin was shot. 

Crump told reporters Martin's girlfriend was 16 and has since "said he did not knowingly misrepresent her age."

On Feb. 26, 2012, Zimmerman shot and killed Martin and claimed self-defense. Photos revealed Zimmerman had gashes on the back of his head and a battered face. Zimmerman said Martin pounded his head into the concrete pavement and he had to shoot him to preserve his life. 

Martin's girlfriend had told prosecutors that Martin said a man was following him on the night he was shot.

Bernie de la Rionda, the prosecutor, was ambiguous when asked if the prosecution would prosecute Martin's girlfriend for perjury, just as they are trying with Zimmerman's wife for allegedly misstating some information during the bond hearing about the couple's finances. 

Defense attorney Don West simply said, "In fact, she lied."

Zimmerman's defense team also announced on Tuesday that they will not will not hold a "stand your ground" hearing in April, which could have cleared Zimmerman of all charges if it was determined he killed Martin in self-defense, to better spend their time preparing for the jury trial in June of this year.

by on Mar. 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM
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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 8:15 AM
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For you to ask those basic questions, you unfortunately do not know  what you are talking about. Clearly. You really should try to understand both sides, so you can compare, as I did myself.

I posted an article about 3-4 weeks ago (?) about this case, with much more information about the event that was not publicized by the MSM - therefore, which most people don't know, because of the media brouhaha.

It will help a LOT if you really want to understand the whole story. It is  in the CM News & Politics list of posts. 

If you don't look into it and even try to understand it - it just proves you have decided to choose to be bigoted against George - doing the ol' KKK thing again.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

More lies

Zimmerman wasn't savagely beaten

Why did Martin ever touch Zimmerman?

Why did Zimmerman call the police and follow Martin?

Sorry, my attitude is despicable towards racist people who claim a black teen is "armed" because he has hands/fists and there for its perfectly logical to chase them with a gun and calling the police in him

Is that is? Are we back to the lynching days ? Blacks aren't allowed to walk through a white neighborhood without being changed out by guns and police?

If Zimerman were black and chased a white kid because he was white I would have the same issue


Quoting SallyMJ:

Actually, it shows your racism against a Latino man who was savagely beaten up and who you and others want to deny his day in court and have prejudged him, and not even considered the real evidence.

Why would you have such a despicable attitude toward others?

That is the kind of attitude that (there were only white) Democrats had against black and white Republicans in lynching them without a trial. Same exact behavior and attitude.

I don't think you would give a rip if both Martin and Zimmerman had been black, white, Latino, etc. Really no combination other than a black Martin. This wouldn't have even been in the media if they hadn't thought it was a black/white race case. You only even care because Martin was black.

Well, I think the adult thing to do is to carefully look at the evidence, and alter your theory when the evidence demands it. Such as here.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Everything you said here is a lie and shows your racial bias



Now being black and having hands means you are carrying a weapon?



Zimmerman was the armed stranger



This is America and you don't get o harass and murder black people that are walking in your neighborhood, no matter how much you want too



Zimmerman lied under oath, why do you believe anything he says? His timeline also doesn't match his 911 call and her changed his story a few times as to what transpired that night



The only person that was standing his ground was the innocent unarmed teen against the armed aggressor



Zimmerman chased him down Martin defended himself ....Zimmerman had zero reason to stalk and chase the teen walking while black




Quoting SallyMJ:

You have not even paid the slightest attention to the evidence, only what the MSM - who fraudulently edited and reported some information - said.

And you know the alleged truthfulness of Witness #8 how?

Why is the prosecutor not following your professional judgment to include this witness in the trial - if her allegedly accurate testimony is judged unreliable by both the prosecution and defense. You are sort of stuck there.

Armed stranger? Hardly. He was the Neighborhood Watch captain. Martin was the stranger, as you know. May not have been armed with firearms, but he was armed with his own "guns" and fists. Big deal that he was carrying snacks. OBVIOUSLY, he focused on other things like beating the hell out of George and nearly killing him

He would be alive today, if he had not done that to an armed man.

Have you ever heard of the Innocence Project, and other similar organizations committed to bringing justice to those unjustly convicted?

Sadly, you are doing the exact same thing you hate when others do: prejudging without actually looking at the evidence.

I believe you are intelligent and a logical thinker - but not here.




Quoting sweet-a-kins:

This witness didn't lie about the shooting either....

The ACTUAL evidence is Trayvonne was walking him when he started getting followed by a grown man...then chased by this armed stranger

The Armed stranger calls 911 who tells him, leave the person alone and get in your car ...The person he is stalking did NOTHING but walk...

George continues to chase...

there is no self defense, George provoked a confrontation with an INNOCENT 17 year old walking back to his Dad's girlfriends home with snacks for him and his little brother.


Quoting SallyMJ:

Yes, they did - but about financial matters they should have been honest about.

No lies about the shooting.

So what do you think about all these facts coming out?

The photo when Martin was TWELVE YEARS OLD, to avoid the man-sized 17 year old?

The evidence for George's self defense plea is overwhelming.

And the other arguments based on lies and fraud.

Put yourself in his place, and actually LISTEN to the actual evidence.

Would you want the same thing to happen to you in that situation? Of course not. Then give that same consideration to George Z.

The media damage to George Z is overwhelming, even a year after the incident.




Quoting kailu1835:

And both Zimmerman and his wife both lied under oath. 















romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM
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I'm trying to remember again why Trayvon decided to stalk a man who had a gun when he was unarmed, and he didn't know the man.


Oh yeah.....

mommom2000
by Bronze Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM
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I find the most disturbing thing about this post is that you are trying to defend this man, who because of his actions an innocent boy is dead.  Then you turn it around and blame the victim.  Saying if he didn't do that he would be alive.  Shame on you.  None of us knows all the facts, but what we do know is he followed him and he had a gun, that should be enough for people to want to know the truth and seek justice.

    I find it even more diturbing and disgusting that it seems to be the conservatives on here that are trying to defend this man.  This shows your true colors, and we see right through you.

Radarma
by Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 9:14 AM

 shocking!

 

PamR
by Platinum Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM
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Quoting romalove:

I'm trying to remember again why Trayvon decided to stalk a man who had a gun when he was unarmed, and he didn't know the man.


Oh yeah.....

Apparently it's hard to keep track of who the victim was.  Martin was unarmed, walking home and being followed by a man he didn't know, who was armed with a gun.  Despite what the police told him to do, Zimmerman chose to continue to follow Martin and Martin ended up dead.  Where his girlfriend was on the day of his funeral, and the fact that she lied about that, doesn't change the basic facts. 


romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM
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Quoting PamR:



Quoting romalove:

I'm trying to remember again why Trayvon decided to stalk a man who had a gun when he was unarmed, and he didn't know the man.


Oh yeah.....

Apparently it's hard to keep track of who the victim was.  Martin was unarmed, walking home and being followed by a man he didn't know, who was armed with a gun.  Despite what the police told him to do, Zimmerman chose to continue to follow Martin and Martin ended up dead.  Where his girlfriend was on the day of his funeral, and the fact that she lied about that, doesn't change the basic facts. 


It's only hard to keep track of victims if you have an agenda.

sherry132
by Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM

I doubt they will ever convict him. 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Mar. 8, 2013 at 10:30 AM
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So did his brother- in an interview aired on TV-


Quoting Citygirlk:

He did.

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 No one said he was beaten to "within a breath of his life"...if he was beaten to "within a breath of his life"...he'd had been unconscious and intubated at the scene.

THAT, my dear, is logic.

Actually, the prosecution's stance is that Trayvon was on the phone with his gf, during the attack/shooting and that there was NO way he could have beaten Zimmerman..so while she may not have had anything directly to do with the crime she's considered a witness. And if everything happened exactly as the prosecutions claims WHY would she even NEED to consider lying??

THAT, is also, logic.

Quoting Sisteract:

Zimmerman admitted to killing the boy- the GF has nothing to do with the crime that was committed. If you want to try her for perjury, have at it.

If GZ was injured to within a breath of his life, why did he refuse medical attention at the scene?
Common sense and logic go a long, long way. 

Quoting SallyMJ:

Well, it chips away at that allegation - don't you think, if the prosecution's key witness has lied twice under oath? Her reliability is now seriously in doubt, and the prosecution will probably choose not to put her on the stand.

Other evidence:

Such as Zimmerman's injuries after the shooting: two black eyes, a broken nose, deep gashes in the back of his head, various contusions and abrasions. And, other than the GSW, Martin had abrasions on his hands and fingers and nowhere else, backing up Zimmerman's account.

Such as the fact that George did not even originally retain legal counsel, because he thought it was an open and shut case.

Such as the fact that media referred to him as white, when he is actually Latino-African.

Such as the media's selective editing of his 911 call to make it appear that he made a racist comment, when he was actually answering the question of the 911 operator.

Such as the fact that the photo shown of Trayvon Martin was when he was 12 YEARS OLD, and not his football player size, with only a 10 pound differential in weight between the two men. Did you know that?? I didn't until recently.

Such as the fact that the media and even the president and even you a citizen was blindsided by their unfair and racist coverage of the incident.

Sounds like you may be interested in convicting a not guilty individual. Because you believe the media's narrative, without even questioning it. As I did too, until I learned the facts the media has been suppressing, all in the name of a compelling story.

Have you ever used critical thinking in questioning something you believe is correct? It would be really helpful, it is essential here. Or would you like others to convict YOU on the basis of  hearsay? I'm guessing not.

Otherwise it's similar to the Democrats during Reconstruction who falsely proclaimed that black and white Republicans were guilty of heinous crimes, on the basis of rumors, and lynched them without a trial. Same principle.

Try reading some information from the defense, and if you look at it with a non-jaundiced eye, you will see the MSM has been conducting a travesty.

Do you think if both men had been black, or both white, or both Latino, this incident would have even seen the light of day? No, no, and hell no.


Quoting Sisteract:

What does that have to do with Zimmerman stalking, escalating, confronting and killing a teenager on his way home from the 7-11?




 



Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Mar. 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM
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Decent people do not stalk, disregard instructions given from the folks they call for help and an escalate benign situations to include the death of a minor-

Sorry, they just do not-

Crazy people might though-

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 I wish I could say I'm shocked that the media manipulated and twisted information. And openly attempted to make this look like a racial shakedown. Using the pic of him when he was 12, withholding Zimmerman's injuries and well..basically the facts of the case.

I wish I could also say I'm shocked Trayvon's gf lied, more than once.

But, I'm not.

It's really quite sad to see decent people get railroaded because the media wants ratings.

Quoting SallyMJ:

From George's injuries, it absolutely looked as if he were in a fight for his life. As he clearly was.

I think it is so interesting that Martin had abrasions only on his hands and fingers - from hitting someone. No other injuries before his GSW.

And I found it FASCINATING that the media tried to hoodwink the public into believing that Martin was this small, scrawny thing - by using his photo when he was 12 YEARS OLD. They never used his current photo at 17 years old, when he was 6'2" and 170 pounds or so - a grown man, quite obviously able to give George the beating of his life. I didn't learn that until a couple months ago!

And the witnesses said Martin was on top beating George, who was on the bottom, lying in the street.

Talk about something completely different from what we heard about from the media.

I wonder what she thought about the OJ trial - and his guilt or innocence.

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 Seriously...do you read? Because it's common knowledge that Zimmerman had multiple contusions, scrapes and cuts. In addition to 2 black eyes and a broken nose, Zimmerman had a concussion.

Quoting Sisteract:

What does that have to do with Zimmerman stalking, escalating, confronting and killing a teenager on his way home from the 7-11?

 



 


Citygirlk
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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And his father, girlfriend, I think even his old lawyers said that as well. I can't wait till this trail starts. (Note to self buy lots of popcorn).

Quoting Sisteract:

So did his brother- in an interview aired on TV-


Quoting Citygirlk:

He did.

Quoting 143myboys9496:

 No one said he was beaten to "within a breath of his life"...if he was beaten to "within a breath of his life"...he'd had been unconscious and intubated at the scene.

THAT, my dear, is logic.

Actually, the prosecution's stance is that Trayvon was on the phone with his gf, during the attack/shooting and that there was NO way he could have beaten Zimmerman..so while she may not have had anything directly to do with the crime she's considered a witness. And if everything happened exactly as the prosecutions claims WHY would she even NEED to consider lying??

THAT, is also, logic.

Quoting Sisteract:

Zimmerman admitted to killing the boy- the GF has nothing to do with the crime that was committed. If you want to try her for perjury, have at it.

If GZ was injured to within a breath of his life, why did he refuse medical attention at the scene?
Common sense and logic go a long, long way. 

Quoting SallyMJ:

Well, it chips away at that allegation - don't you think, if the prosecution's key witness has lied twice under oath? Her reliability is now seriously in doubt, and the prosecution will probably choose not to put her on the stand.

Other evidence:

Such as Zimmerman's injuries after the shooting: two black eyes, a broken nose, deep gashes in the back of his head, various contusions and abrasions. And, other than the GSW, Martin had abrasions on his hands and fingers and nowhere else, backing up Zimmerman's account.

Such as the fact that George did not even originally retain legal counsel, because he thought it was an open and shut case.

Such as the fact that media referred to him as white, when he is actually Latino-African.

Such as the media's selective editing of his 911 call to make it appear that he made a racist comment, when he was actually answering the question of the 911 operator.

Such as the fact that the photo shown of Trayvon Martin was when he was 12 YEARS OLD, and not his football player size, with only a 10 pound differential in weight between the two men. Did you know that?? I didn't until recently.

Such as the fact that the media and even the president and even you a citizen was blindsided by their unfair and racist coverage of the incident.

Sounds like you may be interested in convicting a not guilty individual. Because you believe the media's narrative, without even questioning it. As I did too, until I learned the facts the media has been suppressing, all in the name of a compelling story.

Have you ever used critical thinking in questioning something you believe is correct? It would be really helpful, it is essential here. Or would you like others to convict YOU on the basis of  hearsay? I'm guessing not.

Otherwise it's similar to the Democrats during Reconstruction who falsely proclaimed that black and white Republicans were guilty of heinous crimes, on the basis of rumors, and lynched them without a trial. Same principle.

Try reading some information from the defense, and if you look at it with a non-jaundiced eye, you will see the MSM has been conducting a travesty.

Do you think if both men had been black, or both white, or both Latino, this incident would have even seen the light of day? No, no, and hell no.


Quoting Sisteract:

What does that have to do with Zimmerman stalking, escalating, confronting and killing a teenager on his way home from the 7-11?




 




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