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If Americans Prefer Tea Party Ideals.....

Posted by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 8:15 AM
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....what do you make of this poll?

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/07/17227432-strong-support-continues-for-minimum-wage?lite

Strong support continues for minimum wage

A solid majority of Americans support President Obama’s proposal in his most recent State of the Union to increase the minimum wage.

Some 71 percent of those surveyed said they supported raising the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour from $7.25, while 27 percent opposed it, according to a Gallup Poll released Wednesday.

The results attest to the popularity of Obama’s plan, wrote Gallup’s Lydia Saad in the poll’s release.

“Raising the federal minimum wage is typically a crowd pleaser when it comes to policy prescriptions, and Obama’s proposal…is not an exception,” she wrote. “The 71 percent vs. 27 percent balance of U.S. public opinion in favor of passing it is convincing…”

The numbers seem overwhelming, but support for increasing the minimum wage has actually been higher, reaching as high as 83 percent in 2005.

“Americans’ support for boosting the minimum wage may be a bit dampened by continued high unemployment, and could reflect public awareness of critics’ argument that raising the minimum wage causes employers to cut back on workers,” Saad wrote.

There was a large ideological split in the poll with 91 percent of Democrats supporting a wage increase, compared to 50 percent of Republicans.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and other Republicans have said they oppose raising the minimum wage because they believe the hike would cut into job growth.

“Listen, when people are asking the question ‘Where are the jobs?’ why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people?” Boehner told reporters in February. “I’ve got 11 brothers and sisters on every rung of the economic ladder. I know about this issue as much as anybody in this town.”

Boehner also voted against the 2006 bill to raise the minimum wage to its current level of $7.25 from $5.15.

Some Democrats, meanwhile, say Obama’s proposal doesn’t go far enough. 

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., proposed a bill Tuesday to set the minimum wage at $10.10 over three years and then index future increases to inflation. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called on Republican House leadership Thursday to act on the legislation.

Obama’s proposal is also slightly lower than his pledge as President-elect in 2008 to raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011, according to his team’s transition website.

The poll took place among 1,028 American adults between March 2 and March 3, 2013, and has a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points.

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nanaofsix531
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:12 AM
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If the minimum wage had been adjusted for inflation this would not be a problem.I am all for raising the minimum wage.

romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:15 AM
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Quoting nanaofsix531:

If the minimum wage had been adjusted for inflation this would not be a problem.I am all for raising the minimum wage.

I personally want to see a different change to minimum wage.  I think there should be a basement wage, and then have adjustments for states that there are higher cost of living.  The minimum wage buys much more in Mississippi, for example, than it does in New Jersey.

But this thread is really about something else...which is if Americans are more supportive of Tea Party ideals, how do you reconcile this survey that says they want higher minimum wage, which is not a Tea Party ideal?

DieselsMom
by Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:17 AM

you can't even spell idea....wtf?!?!!? Min wage needs to stay where it is...if you want to make MORE than min wage, then work MORE.....get MORE education....make yourself WORTH MORE

romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:20 AM
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Quoting DieselsMom:

you can't even spell idea....wtf?!?!!? Min wage needs to stay where it is...if you want to make MORE than min wage, then work MORE.....get MORE education....make yourself WORTH MORE

You have lost your mind.

I can spell idea.

I can also spell ideals.

Now would you like to address my question, which is, if Americans prefer Tea Party ideals, as was suggested in another thread, how they can also be supporting an increase in minimum wage?

nanaofsix531
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM

how do you reconcile this survey that says they want higher minimum wage, which is not a Tea Party ideal?

You can't.

Quoting romalove:


Quoting nanaofsix531:

If the minimum wage had been adjusted for inflation this would not be a problem.I am all for raising the minimum wage.

I personally want to see a different change to minimum wage.  I think there should be a basement wage, and then have adjustments for states that there are higher cost of living.  The minimum wage buys much more in Mississippi, for example, than it does in New Jersey.

But this thread is really about something else...which is if Americans are more supportive of Tea Party ideals, how do you reconcile this survey that says they want higher minimum wage, which is not a Tea Party ideal?


JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:28 AM
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Quoting DieselsMom:

you can't even spell idea....wtf?!?!!? Min wage needs to stay where it is...if you want to make MORE than min wage, then work MORE.....get MORE education....make yourself WORTH MORE

 She can certainly spell idea. 

She also knows the difference between an idea and an ideal.

JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM

 I am surprised by how much Republican support this has.

romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM
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Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I am surprised by how much Republican support this has.

I don't think people understand how raising minimum wage will affect job growth.

I also don't think they take into account the variation in cost of living around the country.

The entire notion of minimum wage needs to be redone, IMO.

And....I am not so sure that the Tea Party has as much support as some people think they do.

JakeandEmmasMom
by Gold Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM
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Quoting romalove:


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I am surprised by how much Republican support this has.

I don't think people understand how raising minimum wage will affect job growth.

I also don't think they take into account the variation in cost of living around the country.

The entire notion of minimum wage needs to be redone, IMO.

And....I am not so sure that the Tea Party has as much support as some people think they do.

 My impression is that Tea Party support is on the decline.  I predict that they will be completely irrelevant by the next election.

I'm against raising the minimum wage.  All that will do is create a larger divide between the rich and the poor.  Minimum wage isn't meant to be a living wage.  IMO, we need to work on creating conditions that will raise the median wage.  That is what will bring back a robust middle class, which is what we ultimately need.  Raising the minimum wage will simply make it so that eventually you are either a minimum wage worker, or a top scale worker, with nothing in between.

romalove
by SenseandSensibility on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 

Quoting romalove:


Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I am surprised by how much Republican support this has.

I don't think people understand how raising minimum wage will affect job growth.

I also don't think they take into account the variation in cost of living around the country.

The entire notion of minimum wage needs to be redone, IMO.

And....I am not so sure that the Tea Party has as much support as some people think they do.

 My impression is that Tea Party support is on the decline.  I predict that they will be completely irrelevant by the next election.

I'm against raising the minimum wage.  All that will do is create a larger divide between the rich and the poor.  Minimum wage isn't meant to be a living wage.  IMO, we need to work on creating conditions that will raise the median wage.  That is what will bring back a robust middle class, which is what we ultimately need.  Raising the minimum wage will simply make it so that eventually you are either a minimum wage worker, or a top scale worker, with nothing in between.

I would love to see a big push for small business job creation.  Money spent on getting people to work for themselves or for small businesses would be well spent.  We have to get people self-sufficient.

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