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Healthcare to the illegals?

Posted by on Mar. 24, 2013 at 2:33 PM
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Immigration Vote Splits Gang of 8

The Senate's bipartisan immigration working group split along party lines during a contentious budget vote to prevent illegal immigrants who receive legal status from receiving federal health benefits.

The Senate early Saturday morning defeated the amendment to the budget resolution which would have put the Senate on record as opposing access to health care under Medicaid or the Affordable Care Act for undocumented immigrants who get a green card.

The amendment, which failed 43 to 56, was offered by Senate Budget ranking member Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

All Democrats - including gang members Dick Durbin of Illinois, Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Charles E. Schumer of New York and Michael Bennet of Colorado - opposed the amendment. They were joined by Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska. All other Republicans - including immigration negotiators Marco Rubio of Florida, John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jeff Flake of Arizona - supported the amendment.

 

The gang of eight has been negotiating a comprehensive immigration reform package that they hope to unveil when the Senate returns the week of April 8 from spring recess.

 

Sessions contended the vote bodes poorly for the state of negotiations.

 

"The result of today's vote places immigration reform in jeopardy," Sessions said.

 

Immigration reform advocates, including National Council of La Raza, said Friday they would be monitoring what they contend to be any anti-immigrant votes and put members of both parties on notice that their votes would be remembered come election day.

 

During debate, Sessions argued that illegal immigrants who are given legal status in the future should not be eligible for these health care benefits.

 

"If a person is in our country illegally and they are rewarded with some legal status, do they then immediately become eligible for federal health care benefits," Sessions said. "It's a different situation than someone who came legally and has got legal status."

 

After the vote Sessions said in a release that the failure to adopt his amendment "will dramatically accelerate the insolvency of our entitlement programs and is unfair to American workers and taxpayers."

 

Menendez said the amendment was not needed because the group was working on a plan that would have to be approved by the Senate.

 

"Nothing is contemplated to change what the senator is concerned about in our negotiations," Menendez said. He added that any change to the immigration laws "would have to come before this body before in fact it could be changed."

 

The Senate approved by voice vote an amendment offered by Menendez that restates current law that illegal immigrants are not eligible for the federal health care programs.

Menendez also warned that adoption of the Sessions amendment could disturb immigration negotiations and goes against the stated desire of the Republican National Committee, which urged Republicans to do a better job of appealing to immigrants, including embracing comprehensive immigration reform.

Negotiation on the immigration law "is currently being done in a bipartisan fashion," Menendez said. "The last thing we need to do in this budget process is to try muck that up."

He continued, “This is not a great way to try to do your out reach to the Hispanic and immigrant community.”

Sessions and other Republicans had teed up other amendments on immigration — including one that would prevent illegal immigrants, or illegal immigrants granted legal status, from qualifying for refundable tax credits, including tax credits designed to help low-income families. But the Senate did not vote on that or others before narrowly passing the budget, shortly before 5 a.m. Saturday, on a 50 to 49 vote.

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pvtjokerus
by Gold Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 2:34 PM
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Whatever happened to enforcing immigration laws?

kcangel63
by Amanda on Apr. 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM
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I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.
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Raintree
by Silver Member on Apr. 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM

So, for those immigrants afforded some kind of amnesty- and no longer being 'illegal'- they should be penalized further via no=access to tax credits, etc. because... what, exactly?

If they're working and they're legal, they should have the same access to benefits as anyone else who is working and legal. 

paknari
by Silver Member on Apr. 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM
But this is referring to immigrants that have been given legal work status. That means they applied and were approved. That would make them not illegal. I do however think that if you have to apply for Medicaid that your work visa should be reevaluate because if you are approved to work here it is because you are able
To get a job. The intent of work visas is for the US to gain skills from people who don't live here.

Quoting kcangel63:

I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.


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Citygirlk
by on Apr. 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM

You can't even get help from the goverment  on a visa you need to be able to take care of yourself and be at least 125% above the poverty line to even be considered. So any health benefits they would get will be from the employer or they would have to buy it themselves.

Quoting paknari:

But this is referring to immigrants that have been given legal work status. That means they applied and were approved. That would make them not illegal. I do however think that if you have to apply for Medicaid that your work visa should be reevaluate because if you are approved to work here it is because you are able
To get a job. The intent of work visas is for the US to gain skills from people who don't live here.

Quoting kcangel63:

I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.



gludwig2000
by Gina on Apr. 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

 I'm a democrat, but no, I do not believe that those who get their green cards under immigration reform should be able to get federal health care help. I'm not saying that they should be allowed to die on the streets, but neither should the federal government foot the bill of all of their medical needs. It is a tricky situation, you know? I mean, I understand that many are here because they want a better life, and of course, children born here are American citizens, but we can't do it all. We can not provide everything needed for our own citizens, so why should we provide it for those who came here illegally? Again, its a tricky situation.

paknari
by Silver Member on Apr. 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM
Then it seems silly to even be discussing it and wasting government time.


Quoting Citygirlk:

You can't even get help from the goverment  on a visa you need to be able to take care of yourself and be at least 125% above the poverty line to even be considered. So any health benefits they would get will be from the employer or they would have to buy it themselves.

Quoting paknari:

But this is referring to immigrants that have been given legal work status. That means they applied and were approved. That would make them not illegal. I do however think that if you have to apply for Medicaid that your work visa should be reevaluate because if you are approved to work here it is because you are able

To get a job. The intent of work visas is for the US to gain skills from people who don't live here.


Quoting kcangel63:

I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.





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Citygirlk
by on Apr. 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Exactly. These idiots are always wasting tax payer money.

Quoting paknari:

Then it seems silly to even be discussing it and wasting government time.


Quoting Citygirlk:

You can't even get help from the goverment  on a visa you need to be able to take care of yourself and be at least 125% above the poverty line to even be considered. So any health benefits they would get will be from the employer or they would have to buy it themselves.

Quoting paknari:

But this is referring to immigrants that have been given legal work status. That means they applied and were approved. That would make them not illegal. I do however think that if you have to apply for Medicaid that your work visa should be reevaluate because if you are approved to work here it is because you are able

To get a job. The intent of work visas is for the US to gain skills from people who don't live here.


Quoting kcangel63:

I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.






Canvas_says
by Silver Member on Apr. 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM

When we went through immigration to legalize my husband we were allowed if we needed to apply for medical benefits. You were just not allowed to apply for any cash, or food aid. Has that changed? 

Quoting Citygirlk:

You can't even get help from the goverment  on a visa you need to be able to take care of yourself and be at least 125% above the poverty line to even be considered. So any health benefits they would get will be from the employer or they would have to buy it themselves.

Quoting paknari:

But this is referring to immigrants that have been given legal work status. That means they applied and were approved. That would make them not illegal. I do however think that if you have to apply for Medicaid that your work visa should be reevaluate because if you are approved to work here it is because you are able
To get a job. The intent of work visas is for the US to gain skills from people who don't live here.

Quoting kcangel63:

I feel that if you are here illegally, then you should not get any benefits.




JoJoBean8
by Silver Member on Apr. 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

If you want to live here I think they should be able to provide for themselves. 

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