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Reagan’s Budget Director Says Republican Party Is A Coalition Of Gangs That Stands For Nothing

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Reagan’s Budget Director Says Republican Party Is A Coalition Of Gangs That Stands For Nothing 

2013/04/28
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President Ronald Reagan’s former budget director David Stockman excoriated the Republican Party in an interview he  gave to Newsmax TV. While he attacked President Obama for not cutting defense in an era where America is the only superpower  in no uncertain terms he laid blame for the predicament of America squarely on the Republican Party.

After Newsmax Anchor David Nelson asserted that many believe the house is divided (the Republican Party that is), he asked David Stockman if he believed Republican leaders like Ryan, Boehner, Rubio, Paul, or anyone else could unite the party. Stockman shot back with a response would expect in a Newsmax interview.

David Stockman’s response:

No. I don’t because I think the Republican Party is not really a party. It doesn’t stand for anything except reelecting itself. It’s a coalition of gangs….

The Neo Cons which I have no use for are only oriented to an aggressive imperialistic foreign policy, a big defense establishment, and suppression of our civil liberties. That’s a bad. I am against that.

The Tax Cons want to just cut taxes anytime any day regardless of the fiscal situation. That has gone to absurd lengths. I oppose that.

The Social Cons, social policy people, the right to life issue, gay marriage and all that, that’s irrelevant to governing a democracy in a free society.

That is basically the heart of the Republican Party. In that mix how can you find anything that is going to stand for conservative economics, fiscal rectitude, free markets, sound money; it’s not there. The Republican Party is basically irrelevant to the economic crisis that faces the country.

David Stockman has been a critic of the Republican Party for some time now. I wrote the article “David Stockman: “get out of the markets and hide out in cash” Corruption Of Capitalism” a few weeks ago where Stockman was quoted saying “This debt explosion has resulted not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party’s embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don’t matter if they result from tax cuts.”

Mr..  Stockman seems to be progressively sharpening his criticisms in all venues as the ineptitude and intransigence of his party continues. One can only hope that he will trigger what many are hoping for, a rebirth of a viable Republican Party that stands for real American values, a party that stands for middle class values, a party that remembers the time when it actually did good. Real Liberals need a viable conservative party to ensure the purity of liberalism is maintained and do not succumb to a lazy absence of a legitimate pushback.

by on Apr. 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM
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PinkButterfly66
by Bronze Member on Apr. 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM
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I agree with him. But he is the dude that gave us supply side economics which is what this current crop of republicans are running with.  It didn't work under Reagan [EDIT: it doesn't work now], but I guess that doesn't matter.

susan115
by on Apr. 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM

As a republican I stand for smaller, leaner government, stay out of bedroom, defend this country, fix the roads...leave the rest alone!

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Apr. 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I think you are saying that you wish Democrats would allow dissenting beliefs in their party - but they don't.

On the other hand, the GOP allows members to have their own opinions. And then they choose to come together as a group. Personally I prefer to be treated as an adult. Seems Democrats have a different preference. Which is their right - just not how many of us choose to be treated or to operate.


Quoting denise3680:



Quoting SallyMJ:

Thank God for freedom of speech and of ideas in the country and in the GOP! So that even Republicans can feel the freedom to criticize each other? A healthy thing.

Can you even comprehend Democrats being allowed to have their own opinions, different from the Democratic Party? They would be shut down faster than you could shake a stick at them. 

So is it more reflective of power reserved to The People and to the States: to allow disagreements that are sometimes messy (GOP)? Or to squelch free speech, similar to a dictatorship, minus beheadings (Democrat Party)? 

OK then.

Do you really believe what you wrote?  I had to laugh, because yes, the GOP is certainly portrayed itself as the unity party.  Come one Come all and be free to be who you want:/  NOT.  Your own party basically disowns its own if they do not tow the line, Gosh forbid if they try to come to the middle, that's a fate worse than death in the Grand Ol' Party:/




SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Apr. 29, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I get my info about freedom of speech from the Constitution, and in particular the First Amendment.

So you are saying you don't believe in freedom of speech? I'm afraid that contradicts the Constitution.


Quoting nanaofsix531:

LOL Where do you get your information from?I have seen polls here that con's have posted where the Dem's base is very mad at them.I have seen the black caucus very mad at the Dem leadership.Do you ever watch C-Span?They are always there going after each other.Been listening to to much limpdough have you?

Quoting SallyMJ:

Thank God for freedom of speech and of ideas in the country and in the GOP! So that even Republicans can feel the freedom to criticize each other? A healthy thing.

Can you even comprehend Democrats being allowed to have their own opinions, different from the Democratic Party? They would be shut down faster than you could shake a stick at them. 

So is it more reflective of power reserved to The People and to the States: to allow disagreements that are sometimes messy (GOP)? Or to squelch free speech, similar to a dictatorship, minus beheadings (Democrat Party)? 

OK then.




SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Gangs? You mean like the groups of murderers and other dangerous criminals - who, generally support the Democrat Party?

Those kinds of gangs?

I think gang members tend to be liberal, not conservative - so I don't think that is valid verbiage.

If I were liberal, I would demand you apologize. Bu since I value freedom of speech - even if I don't like it - I'll pass on that.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 7:51 AM

That is so wonderful that you - a Democrat - is so concerned about the Republican Party. Thanks so much, that is so thoughtful of you. Liberals really do care.

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CreamCheeze
by Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM


That many?

I think the number is closer to none.

Quoting blues_pagan:

Sadly this can be said about both parties. I think there are only a handful of politicians who are in office for the right reasons.



shannonnigans
by Silver Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Now that you've gotten the partisan oratory out of the way, what was your take on the content of what he said? Agree? Disagree?


Quoting SallyMJ:

Thank God for freedom of speech and of ideas in the country and in the GOP! So that even Republicans can feel the freedom to criticize each other? A healthy thing.

Can you even comprehend Democrats being allowed to have their own opinions, different from the Democratic Party? They would be shut down faster than you could shake a stick at them. 

So is it more reflective of power reserved to The People and to the States: to allow disagreements that are sometimes messy (GOP)? Or to squelch free speech, similar to a dictatorship, minus beheadings (Democrat Party)? 

OK then.


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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Overall, my response to David Stockman's opinion is: SO? 

I think you are implying that conservatives like me are not allowed to respond to monetary, policy, and fiscal, and other ideological opinions of previous GOP budget  directors we disagree with. Just because this is the status quo in the Democrat Party doesn't mean conservatives/ libertarians / Republicans are under that same proscription, and not allowed to have their own opinion.

David Stockman can make pronouncements all he wants, and talk about Cons this and Cons that, as if he has been anointed the Professer of Advanced Conservative Studies, just because he worked for Reagan 25-30 years ago. Please. Even Republican ex-leaders are wrong at times. Doesn't make him the boss of us. I've never even heard of him before now, and bet most conservatives have not either. When someone calls people he disagrees with "gangs," I would designate him instead as a "gangbanger" or a "gangster" seeking to impose his will and opinions on the people and shut down our right of dissent.

It is understandable that you - a liberal, who strangely seems to care so intently about the future of the Republican Party, believe you and Stockman have more sway over conservatives than the Constitution. Nice try. 

So I thank him for his opinion and thank you for yours - which absolutely is your right - but which has no sway over everyone, or even most people, in the GOP.

I too liked Reagan, I agreed with some of his policies, disagreed with others. But it's not as if he were God or anything.

Quoting shannonnigans:

Now that you've gotten the partisan oratory out of the way, what was your take on the content of what he said? Agree? Disagree?


Quoting SallyMJ:

Thank God for freedom of speech and of ideas in the country and in the GOP! So that even Republicans can feel the freedom to criticize each other? A healthy thing.

Can you even comprehend Democrats being allowed to have their own opinions, different from the Democratic Party? They would be shut down faster than you could shake a stick at them. 

So is it more reflective of power reserved to The People and to the States: to allow disagreements that are sometimes messy (GOP)? Or to squelch free speech, similar to a dictatorship, minus beheadings (Democrat Party)? 

OK then.




nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on Apr. 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Wow you are off your rocker.I asked if you watched C-Span.I see Dem's going after each other all the time there.What in the hell has that to do with freedom of speech?I didn't tell you to shut up did I?

Quoting SallyMJ:

I get my info about freedom of speech from the Constitution, and in particular the First Amendment.

So you are saying you don't believe in freedom of speech? I'm afraid that contradicts the Constitution.


Quoting nanaofsix531:

LOL Where do you get your information from?I have seen polls here that con's have posted where the Dem's base is very mad at them.I have seen the black caucus very mad at the Dem leadership.Do you ever watch C-Span?They are always there going after each other.Been listening to to much limpdough have you?

Quoting SallyMJ:

Thank God for freedom of speech and of ideas in the country and in the GOP! So that even Republicans can feel the freedom to criticize each other? A healthy thing.

Can you even comprehend Democrats being allowed to have their own opinions, different from the Democratic Party? They would be shut down faster than you could shake a stick at them. 

So is it more reflective of power reserved to The People and to the States: to allow disagreements that are sometimes messy (GOP)? Or to squelch free speech, similar to a dictatorship, minus beheadings (Democrat Party)? 

OK then.





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