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Ron Paul slams Boston police. Has he gone too far? more proof of his racist idealogy as well...

Posted by on May. 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM
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Ron Paul slams Boston police. Has he gone too far?

Ron Paul, in a posting on the website of a libertarian activist, accused US law enforcement of 'a military-style occupation of an American city' in its response to the Boston bombing.

By Peter Grier | Christian Science Monitor - 23 hrs ago

In a post on the website of libertarian activist Lew Rockwell, Mr. Paul said Monday that the governmental reaction to the tragic explosions was worse than the attack itself. The forced lockdown of much of the Boston area, police riding armored vehicles through the streets, and door-to-door searches without warrants were all reminiscent of a military coup or martial law, Paul added.

"The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city," according to Paul.

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Furthermore, this response did not result in the capture of suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Paul charged. He was discovered hiding in a boat by a private citizen, who called police.

"And he was identified not by government surveillance cameras, but by private citizens who willingly shared their photographs with the police," Paul wrote on Lew Rockwell's site.

Yikes. This isn't going to go down well in Watertown, is it? Citizens there applauded when police finally carted off Tsarnaev alive. The Boston police commissioner told his troops over the radio that "it's a proud day to be a Boston police officer." In the wake of the suspect's capture the media have generally portrayed law enforcement officers as heroes.

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But Paul's contrarian take perhaps should not be surprising. After all, he's a committed libertarian who at one point in the GOP presidential debates said that the border fence with Mexico might at some point be used to keep US citizens penned in.

And while Paul's position here is, um, not in the majority, there are other public figures who charge that the Boston response was overkill. In some ways this is one of those points in the circle of American politics were conservative libertarianism and liberal progressivism meet.

The generally left-leaning Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald, for instance, told PBS host Bill Moyers over the weekend that the public lionization of police in the wake of the Boston bombing isn't necessarily a good thing.

"The way in which Americans now related to their government, the way in which they get nationalistic pride is through the assertion of this massive military or police force, and very few other things produce that kind of pride," Greenwald said. "I think [this] shows a lot about our value systems and what the government is failing to do. And that's the way in which this culture becomes coarsened."

However, state and local officials have continued to defend their decision to shut down much of Boston for the Tsarnaev manhunt. At the time they did not know whether the suspect had more explosives or fellow conspirators, and they did not want to risk another tragedy.

"I think we did what we should have done and were supposed to do with the always-imperfect information that you have at the time," Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (D) said at a news conference last week.

And Paul in particular is now drawing criticism for the company he keeps. Lew Rockwell, Paul's former congressional chief of staff, now heads the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a think tank with "deep ties to the neo-Confederate movement," which believes the wrong side won the Civil War, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

As a Paul employee, Rockwell oversaw newsletters published under the former congressman's name that contained controversial statements about race, homosexuality, and other hot-button topics.

Furthermore, Paul's own new organization, the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, has an advisory board that contains a "bevy of conspiracy theorists, cranks, and apologists for some of the worst regimes on the planet," according to Daily Beast writer James Kirchik.

These include Southwestern Law School professor Butler Shaffer, who has written a post for the Lew Rockwell website titled "9/11 was a conspiracy," notes the Daily Beast.

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Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on May. 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM
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TLDR

However, as big of a nut-bar as Paul is, he is right on the ridiculousnes of the lock-down of the city.

TimetoMomUp
by Member on May. 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM
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I agree that the lock down of the citizen and door to door searches were...wrong.

kailu1835
by Silver Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM
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I absolutely agree with him.
rccmom
by Gold Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM
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I thought the lock down was a little overblown. I understand what they were trying to do, but it seemed extreme.

gammie
by on May. 2, 2013 at 10:39 AM
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Ron Paul is 100% right!

The police did not find the guy it was a man who did not fallow the law and did not stay inside his home found the guy!!

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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I agree with him 100%.

sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

 The man did stay in his home as told. the order was lifted and he went outside to smoke.

Quoting gammie:

Ron Paul is 100% right!

The police did not find the guy it was a man who did not fallow the law and did not stay inside his home found the guy!!

 

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

 

True Dat

Sill her point is valid that a private citizen found him.

(dang sak ,no luv on this one at all,you losing your touch?)


 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The man did stay in his home as told. the order was lifted and he went outside to smoke.

Quoting gammie:

Ron Paul is 100% right!

The police did not find the guy it was a man who did not fallow the law and did not stay inside his home found the guy!!

 


 

gammie
by on May. 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM


No it was lifted after his was found!!

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The man did stay in his home as told. the order was lifted and he went outside to smoke.

Quoting gammie:

Ron Paul is 100% right!

The police did not find the guy it was a man who did not fallow the law and did not stay inside his home found the guy!!

 



sweet-a-kins
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM

 No actually, it wasn't

and the police issues a REQUEST to stay in doors, you wouldn't be arrested if you disobeyed (as some did)...the illegal search of homes is disturbing 

Timeline: Boston Marathon bombing suspect captured

 

* 6 p.m.

Police lift the stay-indoors request for the Boston area. Mass transit reopens. Suspect remains at large.

* About 7 p.m.

Gunfire erupts in Watertown and police converge on a house where the suspect is believed to be hiding, about half a mile from the scene of the shootout. Police had been tipped off by a resident who believed someone was hiding in a boat covered in plastic wrap in the house's back yard.

 

After the exchange of gunfire, authorities try to coax the suspect out of the boat. They track the suspect's movements inside the boat using an infrared camera on a helicopter. An FBI hostage response team tries to convince the suspect to surrender but the suspect is non-communicative. A robot is sent in to remove the plastic wrap.

 

* About 8:45 p.m.

 

Boston police say they captured the suspect alive and he is in custody.

 

 

 

Quoting gammie:

 

 

No it was lifted after his was found!!

 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The man did stay in his home as told. the order was lifted and he went outside to smoke.

 

Quoting gammie:

Ron Paul is 100% right!

 

The police did not find the guy it was a man who did not fallow the law and did not stay inside his home found the guy!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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