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War Criminal Dick Cheney Wants Hillary Clinton Subpoenaed

Posted by on May. 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM
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WTF: War Criminal Dick Cheney Wants Hillary Clinton Subpoenaed

Dick Cheney Sneer

All of the usual suspects are out in full force as the Benghazi witch hunt tries to gather steam. Hysterically touting emails that turned out to not say what Republicans claimed they said, Republicans have nonetheless managed to ignore reality. And when they are ignoring reality, they bring former Vice President Dick Cheney out from hiding. Dick Cheney is a wanted war criminal. He has failed to testify about WMD, 9/11, Iraq, the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame, torture, US attorney firings, and much more.

The former Vice President met with House Republicans on Thursday morning in order to hiss his partisan poison into their willing ears. According to Fox News, Cheney appeared at a gathering where Boehner announced he was searching for a Benghazi email (that later turned out to not say what Boehner claimed it said), and raised the stakes by suggesting, “I think Hillary (Clinton) should be subpoenaed if necessary.”

h, yes, Dick. Great idea. Except, Dick Cheney has never believed that the executive branch is subject to congressional subpoenae, and Hillary Clinton’s job as Secretary of State falls under the purview of the executive branch. When Dick was the Defense Secretary and the Vice President, he dodged probes and regulations by claiming all kinds of crazy things, but he became best known for hiding under dubious “executive privilege” (by dubious, I mean at one time ruled unconstitutional by a judge W appointed).

Back in the good old days when the Press was asleep at the wheel, Dick Cheney argued that the Vice Presidency was not a part of the White House in order to exempt his office from any regulation of how he handled classified national security documents:

For the last four years, Vice President Dick Cheney has made the controversial claim that his office is not fully part of the Bush administration in order to exempt it from a presidential order regulating federal agencies’ handling of classified national security information, officials said Thursday.

Cheney has held that his office is not fully part of the executive branch of government despite the continued objections of the National Archives, which says his office’s failure to demonstrate that it has proper security safeguards in place could jeopardize the government’s top secrets.

Oh, the secrets couldn’t be jeopardized! But now, there can be NO secrets.

Long before he made “executive privilege” the motto of the Dubya administration and before he was arguing that the Vice President is not subject to regulations impacting the executive branch, Cheney was dodging his own congressional subpoena. In 1991, then Defense Secretary Cheney refused to obey a congressional subpoena:

Defense Secretary Dick Cheney has refused to obey a congressional subpoena demanding a key document that explains why he allowed contractors two years to repay $1.3 billion for work they did not complete on a canceled aircraft program.

The subpoenaed Feb. 4 memorandum from senior Pentagon officials to Cheney provided the analytical justification for allowing McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics up to two years to pay back money originally paid to them under a contract on the A-12 jet.

Cheney declined to provide the document to the congressional subcommittee because he said it would violate the doctrine of “executive privilege,” which exempts the White House from disclosing confidential communications.

The Huffington Post pointed out that the Bush administration avoided subpoenae in the scandal surrounding the firing of the U.S. Attorneys, “The Bush White House directed chief of staff Joshua Bolten, political director Karl Rove, former White House counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor all to ignore subpoenas from Congress…. In 2008, a federal judge ruled that it was unconstitutional to do so. And at the end of President George W. Bush’s tenure, the White House instructed top officials not to cooperate with any future congressional inquiries into alleged administration misdeeds.”

Indeed, the Bush administration claimed that current and former White House aides and advisers were immune from Congressional subpoenae. If a Republican Defense Secretary, Vice President, aides and all political operatives (Karl Rove) are not subject to any disclosure and are exempt from congressional subpoenae, certainly the Secretary of State is as well.

Even though Hillary Clinton has already appeared before Congress attempting to help Republicans understand the documents they have had access to but seem to not grasp, Cheney wants her subpoenaed.

Dick Cheney, who does not believe a congressional subpoena can be applied to himself or a Republican executive branch, is now trying to use the congressional subpoena as a whipping tool with which to beat Hillary Clinton. Funny how the press never points out that officials from the Obama administration showed up for these witch hunt hearings, instead of hiding under executive privilege.

Congress has never investigated the lead up to the Iraq War. They have never assigned blame for it, but only gave a cursory look over to see what they could do better in the future. Cheney was in charge of security, but blew off the intel warning about 9/11. No one has ever gotten him on the stand to ask where that document went, who read it, why it wasn’t shared, who called it terrorism, etc. NADA.

Not only does this reveal that Republicans have two sets of standards, and thus their claims of concern over transparency are so cravenly ridiculous as to warrant a sick laugh, but it also shows just how desperate they are to abuse taxpayer money for yet another witch hunt.


WTF. Time for Senate Democrats to start an investigation of their own, since Cheney has a sudden affinity for subpoenae.

by on May. 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM
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LucyMom08
by Silver Member on May. 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM
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Oh that's rich...haha...Cheney is the last person who should point fingers...
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nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM
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I know.I almost fell of my chair when I seen this.

Defense Secretary Dick Cheney has refused to obey a congressional subpoena demanding a key document that explains why he allowed contractors two years to repay $1.3 billion for work they did not complete on a canceled aircraft program.

The subpoenaed Feb. 4 memorandum from senior Pentagon officials to Cheney provided the analytical justification for allowing McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics up to two years to pay back money originally paid to them under a contract on the A-12 jet.

Cheney declined to provide the document to the congressional subcommittee because he said it would violate the doctrine of “executive privilege,” which exempts the White House from disclosing confidential communications.

I guess what is good for him is not good for the gander????????????

Quoting LucyMom08:

Oh that's rich...haha...Cheney is the last person who should point fingers...


nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Yes.Senate Dem's should now make him testify!

Game Change: Cheney Opens Himself to Subpoena Regarding 9/11, Iraq, Torture and Valerie Plame

Posted: 05/10/2013 8:31 am

When a former member of the Executive calls for Congress to subpoena another former member of the Executive, it is a game-changer. No longer can he rely on "Executive Privilege" to block his own testimony.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney has suggested that the GOP subpoena former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton again on Benghazi.

Fine and dandy. Let us first subpoena Mr. Cheney to testify about 9/11, Iraq, torture and the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

Unlike former Secretary Clinton, who has testified to Congress for hours on Benghazi, Cheney has never testified for one minute before Congress on any of these matters.

Indeed, Congress never really investigated 9/11. It appointed a commission more than a year later to determine what changes needed to be made in U.S. security, not to assign accountability. One might ask Cheney who is accountable for 9/11, who lost their jobs over it. That is what Senator John McCain (R-AZ) keeps asking about Benghazi, yet I have never heard the official answers to those questions regarding 9/11/2001.

Regarding 9/11, Cheney had been chosen (in the same way that he was 'chosen' to be VP nominee) by Bush to be in charge of security. The most important point to recall is that, despite all the warnings from January 25 from the then-White House counterterrorism advisor, Richard Clarke, Cheney never even called a meeting of the "principals" responsible for national security to discuss those warnings until 9/4/2001, and that meeting was perfunctory. (Against All Enemies, Richard Clarke, p. 237). It is also worth noting that New York Times columnist Tom Friedman, who had no classified information, called it in a June 26, 2001 column, "A Memo from Osama bin Laden."

Regarding Iraq, the Committee could probe how Cheney and his staff used Judith Miller to publish articles in the New York Times on Saddam's WMD that were sourced from Cheney and that Cheney then quoted without revealing he was essentially quoting himself. They might ask him about the certainty of his public pronouncements when the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) expressed serious doubt about many of its own findings. The Committee might ask him about his references to Mohammed Atta in Prague, and, well, one would scarcely know where to begin, or end.

Regarding torture, there is recent bipartisan report that the Bush Adminstration engaged in torture and that the highest levels of government (read, Cheney and Bush) bear direct responsibility. Even the commission's co-chair, NRA apologist and former Republican Congressman Asa Hutchinson, agreed with that finding.

The report has gone almost unnoticed. Perhaps the Cheney hearings can bring it to the fore where it belongs.

And then, of course, there is Valerie Plame. The Committee might ask him the justification for revealing classified information at all, and, by so doing, providing aid-and-comfort to enemies of the United States.

So, here's the deal. Hillary Clinton has already testified on Benghazi once. When Dick Cheney appears before Congress to answer questions about his actions that caused the death and maiming of hundreds of thousands of people, some from incompetence, some as a result of outright lying- -- then he can come talk to us about Hillary Clinton testifying again.

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on May. 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM

I was going to say the same thing-

Quoting LucyMom08:

Oh that's rich...haha...Cheney is the last person who should point fingers...


grandmab125
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 4:12 PM
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 Another bs article from the huffpo.....sigh.

Hellary, I mean Hilary, should be subpoenaed to testify.  When one testifies before Congress, especially under a subpoena, it is against Fed law to lie to Congress.  Maybe this time, they can nail her for it.

She put off testifying for months after Benghazi, and when she did, it was obvious to anybody with half a brain that she was lying.  She's a cold hearted and incompetent bitch who should just slink off into retirement and obscurity.

Kate_Momof3
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 4:31 PM
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 LMAO.

You are funny. You must consider doing comedy writing!

(Everyone should read this in Dick Cheney-voice...hilarious!)

Quoting grandmab125:

 Another bs article from the huffpo.....sigh.

Hellary, I mean Hilary, should be subpoenaed to testify.  When one testifies before Congress, especially under a subpoena, it is against Fed law to lie to Congress.  Maybe this time, they can nail her for it.

She put off testifying for months after Benghazi, and when she did, it was obvious to anybody with half a brain that she was lying.  She's a cold hearted and incompetent bitch who should just slink off into retirement and obscurity.

 

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 4:41 PM

 Absurd.....Honey, when I kid, people can tell the difference.

Quoting Kate_Momof3:

 LMAO.

You are funny. You must consider doing comedy writing!

(Everyone should read this in Dick Cheney-voice...hilarious!)

Quoting grandmab125:

 Another bs article from the huffpo.....sigh.

Hellary, I mean Hilary, should be subpoenaed to testify.  When one testifies before Congress, especially under a subpoena, it is against Fed law to lie to Congress.  Maybe this time, they can nail her for it.

She put off testifying for months after Benghazi, and when she did, it was obvious to anybody with half a brain that she was lying.  She's a cold hearted and incompetent bitch who should just slink off into retirement and obscurity.

 

 

grandma B

nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 4:42 PM
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So I guess that makes cheney a cold hearted incompetent bastard?

Quoting grandmab125:

 Another bs article from the huffpo.....sigh.

Hellary, I mean Hilary, should be subpoenaed to testify.  When one testifies before Congress, especially under a subpoena, it is against Fed law to lie to Congress.  Maybe this time, they can nail her for it.

She put off testifying for months after Benghazi, and when she did, it was obvious to anybody with half a brain that she was lying.  She's a cold hearted and incompetent bitch who should just slink off into retirement and obscurity.


Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on May. 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM
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Because Cheney stalling on a paper agreement got people killed - so I see how you can equate the two?

Cheney is an ass. There is no excuse for much of his actions, IMO. And, remember me - HUGE Hilary supporter? She needs to be subpoenaed. She clearly lied and I want to know if this was on her own or she was instructed to. Her involvement in this WILL decide for me if I contine to support her, and I know I am not alone.

But to equate Cheney withholding an agreement wit a defense contractor with Hilary's and this administration's actions - is absurd and you have to be aware of that.


Quoting nanaofsix531:

I know.I almost fell of my chair when I seen this.

Defense Secretary Dick Cheney has refused to obey a congressional subpoena demanding a key document that explains why he allowed contractors two years to repay $1.3 billion for work they did not complete on a canceled aircraft program.

The subpoenaed Feb. 4 memorandum from senior Pentagon officials to Cheney provided the analytical justification for allowing McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics up to two years to pay back money originally paid to them under a contract on the A-12 jet.

Cheney declined to provide the document to the congressional subcommittee because he said it would violate the doctrine of “executive privilege,” which exempts the White House from disclosing confidential communications.

I guess what is good for him is not good for the gander????????????

Quoting LucyMom08:

Oh that's rich...haha...Cheney is the last person who should point fingers...


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nanaofsix531
by Platinum Member on May. 10, 2013 at 5:23 PM
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He never testified about 911 and a lot of people dies.He never testified ever about Iraq and people died.

Indeed, the Bush administration claimed that current and former White House aides and advisers were immune from Congressional subpoenae. If a Republican Defense Secretary, Vice President, aides and all political operatives (Karl Rove) are not subject to any disclosure and are exempt from congressional subpoenae, certainly the Secretary of State is as well..


Quoting Analeigh2012:

Because Cheney stalling on a paper agreement got people killed - so I see how you can equate the two?

Cheney is an ass. There is no excuse for much of his actions, IMO. And, remember me - HUGE Hilary supporter? She needs to be subpoenaed. She clearly lied and I want to know if this was on her own or she was instructed to. Her involvement in this WILL decide for me if I contine to support her, and I know I am not alone.

But to equate Cheney withholding an agreement wit a defense contractor with Hilary's and this administration's actions - is absurd and you have to be aware of that.


Quoting nanaofsix531:

I know.I almost fell of my chair when I seen this.

Defense Secretary Dick Cheney has refused to obey a congressional subpoena demanding a key document that explains why he allowed contractors two years to repay $1.3 billion for work they did not complete on a canceled aircraft program.

The subpoenaed Feb. 4 memorandum from senior Pentagon officials to Cheney provided the analytical justification for allowing McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics up to two years to pay back money originally paid to them under a contract on the A-12 jet.

Cheney declined to provide the document to the congressional subcommittee because he said it would violate the doctrine of “executive privilege,” which exempts the White House from disclosing confidential communications.

I guess what is good for him is not good for the gander????????????

Quoting LucyMom08:

Oh that's rich...haha...Cheney is the last person who should point fingers...



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