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Living Off The Chasm – Calling The Conversation Racist – MSNBC’S Melissa Harris-Perry “This Country Is No Place For Young Black Men”

Posted by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM
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Living Off The Chasm – Calling The Conversation Racist – Revisit 2012 msNBC’S Melissa Harris-Perry “This Country Is No Place For Young Black Men”….


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msNBC’s Melissa Harris-Perry went on a ridiculous diatribe December 3rd 2012, about America not being a safe place for “young black men” because non-black people are refusing to be attacked by them. Same insufferable logic surrounding “The Safari Principle” best identified in the mantra of George Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his car.

THE SAFARI PRINCIPLE - George Zimmerman left his vehicle, oh my!

The hidden subtext could be construed as the following… In modern America, a prudent citizen should know to remain in their vehicle, doors locked, windows up, when there are young black males known to be in the vicinity.

What does this say about our society?

Are we living in a drive through Safari Park?

If we get out of our vehicles we deserve what we get and shouldn’t blame the animals, much less shoot them in self-defense?

People like Melissa Harris-Perry and Natalie Jackson are foaming at the mouth calling anyone who profiles risk, based on behavior, a racist. While at the same time saying that we are all at fault for not following the rules they wrote for us on the Safari Park safety brochure.

They advance the argument from the divisive chasm they create.  Homicide is the #1 cause of death for black males between the age of 15 and 34; And guess what? 94% of all black young men killed are killed by other young black men…..  The strawman arguments are not only ridiculous – THEY’RE WRONG.


Last April, 2012, a year and a half ago, we discussed: “We need to have this conversation“. CNN’s Don Lemon told me 4 times in five minutes on Sunday. “we need to have this conversation“.

It got me to thinking. Twenty Five Years ago, I heard the same thing: “we need to have this conversation“….


1984 – Bernard Goetz: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation.

1986 – Howard Beach: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation.

1987 – Tawana Brawley: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation.

1989 – Bensonhurst: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation.

1991 – Crown Heights: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation

1991 – Rodney King: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation

1995 – Freddies Fashion Mart: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation

2006 – Sean King: Same crew said “we need to have this conversation

2012 – Trayvon Martin: Same Crew now says “we need to have this conversation“.

But, In this century, black-on-black crime is the most insidious killer of black people, especially black men.

According to federal crime statistics, homicide is the leading cause of death among African-American males ages 15 to 34.

These figures also indicate that between 1976 and 2004, 94 percent of black murder victims were killed by black offenders. (stats)



Would you consider that maybe y’all are talking to the wrong guy?

I mean, I’ll have that conversation as long as you want. But really, be honest, is the emphasis on the right syllable in that dialogue?

If you want to stop this……


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You need to engage the conversation with them…..



….. NOT ME

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blues_pagan
by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 10:50 AM
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 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.

LuvmyAiden
by Bronze Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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 So you are saying that the fact that over 90% of black men murdered are murdered by other black men is NOT a problem within the black community and one they should be addressing?


Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.


 

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM
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OMG!

You can't actually say that.

Fainting (again).

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

 So you are saying that the fact that over 90% of black men murdered are murdered by other black men is NOT a problem within the black community and one they should be addressing?

 

Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.

 

 


 

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM
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Clearly there are many factual errors in this piece then.

Please list them.

Only as many as you have time for, I realize that you have to get to your very important Race/Relations class.

List them here.

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Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.


 

blues_pagan
by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM

 No I am saying that you are asking the wrong question as many people do.  Instead of telling them to fix it themselves why not take a look at the institution and how it put many of these people into the positions they find themselves today.  You can't fix an issue when you are unwilling to look at the underlying causes.

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

 So you are saying that the fact that over 90% of black men murdered are murdered by other black men is NOT a problem within the black community and one they should be addressing?

 

Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.

 

 

 

LuvmyAiden
by Bronze Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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 I'm all for the underlying causes. The problem is that when I bring them up here or anywhere else I get tarred and feathered as a racist. WHERE is anyone discussing the real issues and not being called names or put down? To me the underlying issues to start with are a welfare system that keeps the poor, poor and the god awful % of kids without one or both parents(I don't care if they are married I just mean present involved parents). That is only the tip of the iceberg but WHEN will it be ok to have this talk and when will the black community accept that it is a needed talk that they should be a part of?


Quoting blues_pagan:

 No I am saying that you are asking the wrong question as many people do.  Instead of telling them to fix it themselves why not take a look at the institution and how it put many of these people into the positions they find themselves today.  You can't fix an issue when you are unwilling to look at the underlying causes.

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

 So you are saying that the fact that over 90% of black men murdered are murdered by other black men is NOT a problem within the black community and one they should be addressing?

 

Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.

 

 

 


 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM



Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.


Race relation class??  Just curious what is the class description for that class and what it entails.

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:25 PM
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Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

 

Quoting blues_pagan:

 This article was the most racist piece of BS I have read in a while. Congrats on that.  And thank you for an awesome example I can now use in my Race Relations class.  It proves many of the points we went over this morning.  This article completely ignores the climate that was created that caused the reactions to the issues such as the Martin/Zimmerman case.  This race conversation is just as typical and ineffective as any other other because it ignores the issues that society has created throughout history that has created the hostile environments many people of color find themselves in and in effect places the blame on them even, taking it off the dominate group in America.  The author of this piece should be ashamed of it.

 

Race relation class??  Just curious what is the class description for that class and what it entails.

Course syllabus.

White People - bad and oppressive.

Black People - Good

Fire - Hot.

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:27 PM
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Quoting Billiejeens:

Race relation class??  Just curious what is the class description for that class and what it entails.

Course syllabus.

White People - bad and oppressive.

Black People - Good

Fire - Hot.


So glad I wasn't drinking coffee while reading this..LOL


Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM
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Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

 

Quoting Billiejeens:

Race relation class??  Just curious what is the class description for that class and what it entails.

Course syllabus.

White People - bad and oppressive.

Black People - Good

Fire - Hot.

 

So glad I wasn't drinking coffee while reading this..LOL

 


 Me too!

Coffee Hot!  (and wet).

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