Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)

News & Politics News & Politics

Fact Check: The Problems With Obama’s Syria Case

Posted by on Sep. 11, 2013 at 1:21 AM
Eds
  • 14 Replies
1 mom liked this

Fact Check: The Problems With Obama’s Syria Case

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama voiced his conviction Tuesday night that Syrian President Bashar Assad was to blame for deadly chemical attacks against civilians, but again he offered no proof.

A look at his remarks to the nation, seeking support for a military strike against Syria, and how they compare with the facts as publicly known:

Fact Check: Obamas Syria Case Still Lacks Proof

Credit: Getty Images

OBAMA: “We know the Assad regime was responsible…. The facts cannot be denied.”

THE FACTS: The Obama administration has not laid out proof Assad was behind the attack.

The administration has cited satellite imagery and communications intercepts, backed by social media and intelligence reports from sources in Syria, as the basis for blaming the Assad government. But the only evidence the administration has made public is a collection of videos it has verified of the victims. The videos do not demonstrate who launched the attacks.

Administration officials have not shared the satellite imagery they say shows rockets and artillery fire leaving government-held areas and landing in 12 rebel-held neighborhoods outside Damascus where chemical attacks were reported. Nor have they shared transcripts of the Syrian officials allegedly warning units to ready gas masks or discussing how to handle U.N. investigators after it happened.

The White House has declined to explain where it came up with the figure of at least 1,429 dead, including 400 children – a figure far higher than estimates by nongovernmental agencies such as the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which has counted only victims identified by name, with a current total of 502. In his remarks, Obama more generally accused Assad’s forces of gassing to death “over 1,000 people, including hundreds of children.”

—

OBAMA: “So even though I possess the authority to order military strikes, I believed it was right in the absence of a direct or imminent threat to our security to take this debate to Congress.”

THE FACTS: Obama’s statement that he has the authority to launch military action is par for the course for presidents, and historically disputed by Congress. The issue never gets settled.

The Constitution delineates power between the president, who serves as commander in chief of the armed forces, and Congress, which has the ability to declare war. Over time, however, questions arose over where the president’s authority ends and where Congress’ begins.

The 1973 War Powers Resolution sought to end the debate, but it has only fueled arguments between Republican and Democratic administrations alike and those who consider themselves constitutional purists.

The law gives the president the power to act without congressional approval in cases of national emergency for up to 60 days. In such a case, the president must consult with Congress. And if the deadline passes without congressional authorization, the president has 30 additional days to remove troops.

But what constitutes a national emergency and what consultation means remain subjects of continued disputes.

 

by on Sep. 11, 2013 at 1:21 AM
Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Replies (1-10):
JoJoBean8
by Silver Member on Sep. 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM

bump

gsprofval
by Gold Member on Sep. 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM
2 moms liked this

I just read this elsewhere and thought wow! bHo is losing points quickly now. 

jcrew6
by Jenney on Sep. 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM
2 moms liked this

Now come on... There are some who will probably choose crap from ForwardProgressives.com over the AP.  lol. 

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Sep. 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Your AP link goes straight to the blaze....

Not credible in any sense. Give the link from www.ap.org 


Never mind I found here

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/fact-check-obamas-syria-case-lacks-proof-20219813

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Sep. 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM


Quote:

OBAMA: “We know the Assad regime was responsible…. The facts cannot be denied.”

 

THE FACTS: The Obama administration has not laid out proof Assad was behind the attack.


Exactly how Osama was behind 9/11 but we took out Saddam instead.

America the killing machine with no facts.

susan115
by on Sep. 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM
1 mom liked this


His approval numbers are in the 30's yet nothing from the LAMESTREAM media.  Crickets?

Quoting gsprofval:

I just read this elsewhere and thought wow! bHo is losing points quickly now. 



joey125
by Silver Member on Sep. 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM

As quoted by Dick Cheney, being President is not a popularity contest, so approval numbers at this point mean squat.    There will always be disagreement in politics, doesn't matter who the President is some will like him and some will not.  I just would like to see some folks cut down on the drama surrounding Obama , its gets a little ridiculous at times.  

gsprofval
by Gold Member on Sep. 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Syria is just like Benghazi.  bHo says "I have proof" that people were gassed to death.  The rest of the world say no or at least has great doubt.

It's just like in Benghazi when the rest of the world knew immediately it was an attack, but bHo claimed for weeks it was because of a video.

Interesting how the rest of the world says no to bombing Syria, but bHo was to bomb any way.  Too bad bHo will be golfing and not in Syria where our own military personnel will be killed.

jcrew6
by Jenney on Sep. 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM
2 moms liked this

How do you define Drama surrounding Obama? 

Like holding him accountable? Questioning him on what his foreign policy encompasses? Expecting Leadership? 

Quoting joey125:

As quoted by Dick Cheney, being President is not a popularity contest, so approval numbers at this point mean squat.    There will always be disagreement in politics, doesn't matter who the President is some will like him and some will not.  I just would like to see some folks cut down on the drama surrounding Obama , its gets a little ridiculous at times.  


JustCJ
by on Sep. 12, 2013 at 6:02 AM

I have said this before and I will say it again...I have never seen a more arrogant pile of waste in all my life..."So even though I possess the authority to launch military action". Man sit the fuck down and shut up...we know this dude quit puffing up your ego damn..and it's every time he talks too. What an ego maniac.

Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)