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Seems people don't like my views

And in turn will try to silence those views. This is an issue in America today. We have drawn a line in the sand and have effectively segregated ourselves. If you are not on "our" side then you are against "us". Each side vilifies the other while making it seem that they are in no way at fault for the issues that have arisen in the past years.
Then there are people like myself who stand in the middle and wonder why the US has gone bat shit crazy.
Extreme views from either side have become an issue today. From te left we have a leader who ha said time and time again that he will not negotiate with his own people. But he will negotiate with other countries while seeming to ignore the issues he is causing here. We har a majority leader in the senate who has snubbed his nose to anything but his way. Communication with the left has effectively been shut off.
But that isn't the only issue here. The right doesn't to get where they are the issue. Try have been hyper focused on one issue in the US and a small minority if them took out government hostage so that their demands would be met. The speaker for the house has effectively lost control of his own people and is being dictated by that minority.
If our fore fathers could see the atrocious behavior of both sides of the aisle they would be appalled. Many of them came from very different backgrounds and view points yet they were able to put together a country that was founded on liberties for everyone. Our Constitution is very clear on every aspect of how Anerica should run and operate but we have been so busy arguing with one another over which side is right that we have lost sight of what makes America strong. Working together despite our differences and realizing that each side has something of value to offer.
Now, I know many will simply read my title and jump from there without reading the OP. some will also report it an have it taken down as has been done with one of my posts. You may not like what I have to say but I will say this, calling for people to stop arguing and work together to fix our il issues isn't a bad thing. If you think by is you are probably part of te issue.
by on Oct. 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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susan115
by on Oct. 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM
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Hi! I hope you are having a nice evening and I truly wish you knew your history.  How many times since 1880, have we had a government shutdown?  Please read.



Quoting gludwig2000:

I agree with what you have written. It is wrong, imo, to try to shut down the governemnt to get your way. Our elected officials are to work for every American once they are in office, not just the select few who have voted for them. This fighting must stop, but ya know, so many people don't care what effect this has on our country and her people, as long as they get what they want. It is government for the people, not just some of them.



PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

I don't have an issue with you being a Republican.  Diversity is what makes this country great.  Besides, as you pointed out, you are a product of your time and how the liberals of that time acted.  I am sure that if I had been born and watched what you did during this time I would see the world similarly.  I just hope that you can see that those people who called themselves liberal then do not reflect all Liberals today.  

And I have tried to not be nasty to anyone.  I have become worked up in some posts but when I feel I can't be nice any longer I simply step out of the conversation.

Thank you for this well put together post.  It is nice to see where people come from and it is nice to also have a respectful conversation despite the differences.

Quoting susan115:

Look, I am a conservative, pro life and your views don't upset me.  You are not a name caller(I am).  Liberals, started it first by typing in silly comments, but hey, I don't care.   I will always be a republican and I know my history.  I have always been a republican since age 14 yrs., I saw what the hippies were doing and it wasn't good.  I was a kid, when I would see vietman soldiers being spit on, watching others kids crying because their father would be coming home.  I saw civilian teenagers making fun of us military kids, for not being hip.  Sorry, I have no respect liberals, my personal opinion is they stick their finger in wind, and whatever is cool for the moment that is what they do, no principals.  Do not worry, you are not nasty to people, just keep posting your opinions.


Friday
by Platinum Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM
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Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.


Friday
by Platinum Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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Quoting PrimmednPunked:

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.


I've been in this group for a long while and I don't believe that those bashing you believe you are right, deep down or not.

Do as you will, just offering my 2 cents. It's painful to watch because I know, from experience, how your posts will go and all they do is give the righty's a chance to bash anyone left of them.

Have fun.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:30 PM

If the trolling keeps up the opinion pieces will end.  But right now I want to stretch the lines.  So far there are a few Conservative ladies here that I get along with and respect, they have shown me the same respect.  I have the same from Liberals.  

I don't think anyone should be silenced due to a minority of members.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.


I've been in this group for a long while and I don't believe that those bashing you believe you are right, deep down or not.

Do as you will, just offering my 2 cents. It's painful to watch because I know, from experience, how your posts will go and all they do is give the righty's a chance to bash anyone left of them.

Have fun.


Friday
by Platinum Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

If the trolling keeps up the opinion pieces will end.  But right now I want to stretch the lines.  So far there are a few Conservative ladies here that I get along with and respect, they have shown me the same respect.  I have the same from Liberals.  

I don't think anyone should be silenced due to a minority of members.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.


I've been in this group for a long while and I don't believe that those bashing you believe you are right, deep down or not.

Do as you will, just offering my 2 cents. It's painful to watch because I know, from experience, how your posts will go and all they do is give the righty's a chance to bash anyone left of them.

Have fun.


It's not about being silenced, it's about picking your battles. There are groups with a better mix of more reasonable people than this one.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

I belong to CEHT as well.  Bronze member there as well.  But the stories seem to be slow there.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

If the trolling keeps up the opinion pieces will end.  But right now I want to stretch the lines.  So far there are a few Conservative ladies here that I get along with and respect, they have shown me the same respect.  I have the same from Liberals.  

I don't think anyone should be silenced due to a minority of members.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.


I've been in this group for a long while and I don't believe that those bashing you believe you are right, deep down or not.

Do as you will, just offering my 2 cents. It's painful to watch because I know, from experience, how your posts will go and all they do is give the righty's a chance to bash anyone left of them.

Have fun.


It's not about being silenced, it's about picking your battles. There are groups with a better mix of more reasonable people than this one.


gludwig2000
by Gina on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM
Why not have a conversation without trying to insult someones intelligence? It would make things easier.
Quoting susan115:

Hi! I hope you are having a nice evening and I truly wish you knew your history.  How many times since 1880, have we had a government shutdown?  Please read.



Quoting gludwig2000:

I agree with what you have written. It is wrong, imo, to try to shut down the governemnt to get your way. Our elected officials are to work for every American once they are in office, not just the select few who have voted for them. This fighting must stop, but ya know, so many people don't care what effect this has on our country and her people, as long as they get what they want. It is government for the people, not just some of them.



gludwig2000
by Gina on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:38 PM
I'll admit, it does seem quite often to be a losing battle.
Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.

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