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Seems people don't like my views

And in turn will try to silence those views. This is an issue in America today. We have drawn a line in the sand and have effectively segregated ourselves. If you are not on "our" side then you are against "us". Each side vilifies the other while making it seem that they are in no way at fault for the issues that have arisen in the past years.
Then there are people like myself who stand in the middle and wonder why the US has gone bat shit crazy.
Extreme views from either side have become an issue today. From te left we have a leader who ha said time and time again that he will not negotiate with his own people. But he will negotiate with other countries while seeming to ignore the issues he is causing here. We har a majority leader in the senate who has snubbed his nose to anything but his way. Communication with the left has effectively been shut off.
But that isn't the only issue here. The right doesn't to get where they are the issue. Try have been hyper focused on one issue in the US and a small minority if them took out government hostage so that their demands would be met. The speaker for the house has effectively lost control of his own people and is being dictated by that minority.
If our fore fathers could see the atrocious behavior of both sides of the aisle they would be appalled. Many of them came from very different backgrounds and view points yet they were able to put together a country that was founded on liberties for everyone. Our Constitution is very clear on every aspect of how Anerica should run and operate but we have been so busy arguing with one another over which side is right that we have lost sight of what makes America strong. Working together despite our differences and realizing that each side has something of value to offer.
Now, I know many will simply read my title and jump from there without reading the OP. some will also report it an have it taken down as has been done with one of my posts. You may not like what I have to say but I will say this, calling for people to stop arguing and work together to fix our il issues isn't a bad thing. If you think by is you are probably part of te issue.
by on Oct. 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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Friday
by Platinum Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM


Quoting gludwig2000:

I'll admit, it does seem quite often to be a losing battle.
Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.

I gave up in here. I might throw in a comment or two but some I don't even respond to. There is no point and I'm no ones whipping boy.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

X_Patriot_Mom_X
by Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM

TOTALLY STANDING IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU!!! PEOPLE ARE GOIN BAT SHIT CRAZY!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! <3 <3

PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Despite the errors thanks to using my Iphone lol.

Thank you!

Quoting X_Patriot_Mom_X:

TOTALLY STANDING IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU!!! PEOPLE ARE GOIN BAT SHIT CRAZY!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! <3 <3


Kathy489
by Bronze Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 9:42 PM
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 That's obama saying "no negotiations," not the Republicans. Obama wants to keep driving us further into debt, and the people finally said, "No more!"

Imagine you are trying to run your household budget, and you keep maxing out your credit cards. So, you call the credit card company and ask for a higher limit. Sure, they raise it. Then you max it out again. Again, you call and ask for more. They give it to you again, and again, and again.

There comes a time when you can no longer be trusted. You become a liability. They know that you will never be able to repay it. That is what is happening. Obama is like a child who wants more and more and more, and then, when he was finally told "no," he went and pouted and quit talking. He basically sat in the corner and held his breath like a child.

Was it partly the Republicans fault? Yes, for letting it go on for so long. But, in the American people's defense, these were the Washington Republicans who had been inside the beltway for too long. Once we wised up to them, we began to vote for new Republicans we could trust to go there and represent us the way we want to be represented. That threatened obama and his cronies because they had not been up against opposition until then.

When the American people speak, it shows at the election polls. Obama is too egotistical to accept it. He wants socialism for this country, and the people don't, and they won't stand for it. So, obama has been throwing his temper tantrum. That's what took so long. Today, I finally heard that he entered the room and sat at the table. It was a huge step, but he finally did it.


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

Where did I say that it was a quick process?  

I know it was long and drawn out and that there were many disagreements.  But they worked passed it.  They didn't stop and throw their hands up when they came to an impasse.  That is what our government is doing, putting their noses in the air and saying "no negotiations".  

Quoting Kathy489:

 The founding fathers didn't do it in a week or two. Is that the time frame you think it was? I don't even know the total time frame, but it sure was a lot longer than a week or a month. And, yes, our government does remember. They are doing exactly what the founders did.

Quoting PrimmednPunked:

Yet here we are.  They got over it, even with yelling and fighting.  They worked through it all and came together to make something that was beneficial for everyone.  They cooperated.  Something our government seems to not remember.

Quoting Kathy489:

First of all, your post is difficult to read for all of the typos. But I got through it.

Do you really think our forefathers sat down and worked everything out with smiles and handshakes? That would be unrealistic.

The fact is that they yelled, screamed, pounded their fists on the tables, etc. and all the while shooed flies out of their sweaty faces because the room wasn't air-conditioned. They did not sit down peacefully and negotiate anything. It was a long, drawn-out fight all the way. And thank God for it!

This is the way our government is supposed to work. That's why we have three branches and a system of checks and balances. Admittedly, obama is quite the baby, as it took forever for the Republicans to get him to at least talk, but the Republicans are finally having some success. They are doing exactly what the Americans want them to do. That is why we vote.


 

 



 

Carpy
by Platinum Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM
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Sitting on the fence is pretty damn boring.

Kathy489
by Bronze Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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 I don't understand what this means. The elected officials are, indeed, supposed to represent the people who voted for them. That is the way the system works. This is a republic. We elect people to represent us. And it is not a select few, or else they wouldn't have gotten elected. They won by the majority of the votes in their districts. They are supposed to go to Washington to represent their districts. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding something.


Quoting gludwig2000:

I agree with what you have written. It is wrong, imo, to try to shut down the governemnt to get your way. Our elected officials are to work for every American once they are in office, not just the select few who have voted for them. This fighting must stop, but ya know, so many people don't care what effect this has on our country and her people, as long as they get what they want. It is government for the people, not just some of them.


 

PrimmednPunked
by Silver Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

News has been coming out about the GOP's position in some of this as well.  Both sides are having issues.

Quoting Kathy489:

 That's obama saying "no negotiations," not the Republicans. Obama wants to keep driving us further into debt, and the people finally said, "No more!"

Imagine you are trying to run your household budget, and you keep maxing out your credit cards. So, you call the credit card company and ask for a higher limit. Sure, they raise it. Then you max it out again. Again, you call and ask for more. They give it to you again, and again, and again.

There comes a time when you can no longer be trusted. You become a liability. They know that you will never be able to repay it. That is what is happening. Obama is like a child who wants more and more and more, and then, when he was finally told "no," he went and pouted and quit talking. He basically sat in the corner and held his breath like a child.

Was it partly the Republicans fault? Yes, for letting it go on for so long. But, in the American people's defense, these were the Washington Republicans who had been inside the beltway for too long. Once we wised up to them, we began to vote for new Republicans we could trust to go there and represent us the way we want to be represented. That threatened obama and his cronies because they had not been up against opposition until then.

When the American people speak, it shows at the election polls. Obama is too egotistical to accept it. He wants socialism for this country, and the people don't, and they won't stand for it. So, obama has been throwing his temper tantrum. That's what took so long. Today, I finally heard that he entered the room and sat at the table. It was a huge step, but he finally did it.


Quoting PrimmednPunked:

Where did I say that it was a quick process?  

I know it was long and drawn out and that there were many disagreements.  But they worked passed it.  They didn't stop and throw their hands up when they came to an impasse.  That is what our government is doing, putting their noses in the air and saying "no negotiations".  

Quoting Kathy489:

 The founding fathers didn't do it in a week or two. Is that the time frame you think it was? I don't even know the total time frame, but it sure was a lot longer than a week or a month. And, yes, our government does remember. They are doing exactly what the founders did.

Quoting PrimmednPunked:

Yet here we are.  They got over it, even with yelling and fighting.  They worked through it all and came together to make something that was beneficial for everyone.  They cooperated.  Something our government seems to not remember.

Quoting Kathy489:

First of all, your post is difficult to read for all of the typos. But I got through it.

Do you really think our forefathers sat down and worked everything out with smiles and handshakes? That would be unrealistic.

The fact is that they yelled, screamed, pounded their fists on the tables, etc. and all the while shooed flies out of their sweaty faces because the room wasn't air-conditioned. They did not sit down peacefully and negotiate anything. It was a long, drawn-out fight all the way. And thank God for it!

This is the way our government is supposed to work. That's why we have three branches and a system of checks and balances. Admittedly, obama is quite the baby, as it took forever for the Republicans to get him to at least talk, but the Republicans are finally having some success. They are doing exactly what the Americans want them to do. That is why we vote.








Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM
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It almost seems like you are extracting anecdotal, behavioral responses to political stimuli for research purposes. The crazies have given you exactly what you want.

Quoting PrimmednPunked:

I don't do complacency.  I don't sit by when so many realize that the issues fall to both sides but they don't want to say anything because they don't want to cause waves.  

They sit there and ridicule because they know, deep down, I and others who agree with me are right.  They can sit there and bash me as an Obama loving socialist.  But that comes back to bite them when I speak out against the left and Obama since I see them as issues as well.  

So thank you for appreciating the POV but no I won't stop, sorry.  It needs to be said.  And as I go on I know I will be bashed.  So far the culprits have been consistent to say the least.  They only show their ignorance.  

Quoting Friday:

Please stop. I appreciate your POV and agree with you on many points. I hate the hyper-partisanship but most in this group thrive on it. You cannot reach those people and only give them a pinata to bat around and any response you have at this point will only 'prove'(in their minds) they 'beat' you.

The people bashing you will never think you any less than an Obama worshipping Socialist unless you hate Obama and everything he says or does.... and all other Dem/Libs/Progressives. They consider you and anyone not on 'their side' to be the enemy only to be mocked, vilified and insulted.

You made the effort to reach out and they lit your hand on fire. Let it go.

You are wasting your time.



Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Oct. 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM


Quoting X_Patriot_Mom_X:

TOTALLY STANDING IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOU!!! PEOPLE ARE GOIN BAT SHIT CRAZY!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! <3 <3

Absolutely-



rocketracer
by Gold Member on Oct. 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM
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The title of your thread sounds needy, like you need a session with Stuart Smalley.
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