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by on Oct. 13, 2013 at 7:31 PM
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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 8:21 PM
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Great photos! That frst one you posted is my favorite. :)

Quoting Carpy:


Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, demonstrates at the World War II Memorial Sunday to protest, as she said, how politicians used your hard-earned tax money to barricade the memorials during the federal government shutdown. She called it a slimdown, saying it only halted a small part of the bloated government. (APAlex Brandon)


MomTiara19
by Silver Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

codfish
by Jen on Oct. 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM
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I guarantee that of a republican were in office and the democrats were staging protests (of course they wouldn't for vets), you would be all for it.
Part of the greatness of this country is the freedom to disagree with our "leaders".


Quoting MomTiara19:

rocketracer
by Gold Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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This post is ignorant. Using the logic in this post non-blacks could have never marched with blacks during the civil ruts movement because non-blacks were never black.

And saying it was motivated by the confederate flag is moronic.
grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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 Did Obama, Holder or Hilary ever serve in the military?  Not a chance.  So this is a moot point.

 

 

 

joyfree
by Kat on Oct. 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/?_r=0

Ironic that the veterans are piling on the President the same way the Rupublicans piled on blocking the jobs bill in 2012 that would have directly benefited them.

Here are the 40 Republicans who voted to keep America’s veterans unemployed,

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Mark Kirk and James Inhofe did not vote.

grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 11:41 PM
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 You bought that bs, didn't you?

 

Senate Democrats Politicize Veterans, Violate Debt Ceiling Deal

  

Forty Senate Republicans on Wednesday voted against waiving a point of order that Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) had raised on a veterans' jobs bill authored by Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) because the bill violated spending limits set by the debt ceiling deal (the Budget Control Act) and would add to the country's debt.

Sixty votes are needed to waive the point of order, and only 58 Senators voted to do so, which means the order was sustained and the veterans' jobs bill will go back to the Veterans Affairs Committee. 

 Democrats are already trying to politicize the vote and say, falsely, that Republicans voted against veterans. That repeats a cynical political tactic then-Sen. Barack Obama used during the 2008 election, when he made his first attack on rival Sen. John McCain--a veteran and war hero--by accusing him of abandoning veterans:

 Yet Democrats could fix the bill by simply finding $700 million in savings over the next ten years. 

 Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) has also offered an alternative piece of legislation that complies with the Budget Control Act, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will not allow that bill to get a vote on the floor. 

 In addition, Democrats in the Senate have no plans to pass a defense authorization bill, which would be the first time in 50 years that the Senate, which has not passed a budget in nearly four years, will have failed to do so. That is made even worse because Democrats could have designed the veterans' jobs bill without violating the Budget Control Act, and the Senate is slated to go on a seven-week recess.  

 Murray's bill uses budgetary gimmicks to mask over $300 million the bill would add to the country's debt-- and that is what Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, was against.  

 On the Senate floor on September 13, Sessions emphasized his "sole problem" with the legislation was that "it violates the budget and is subject to a budget point of order" and "sustaining the budget point of order, not waiving the budget, does not kill the Murray bill." 

 Sessions also criticized President Barack Obama for not having "said one word about our advancing or putting any effort into leadership that would lead us to fix this problem."

 "Maybe others think it is all right for him to lead from behind, to sit in the White House and go make speeches and not worry about the sequester and not worry about the fact we haven't passed a Defense bill," Sessions said. "I don't think so." 

 

Sessions said it "seems to me the White House is perfectly happy with inaction" because Obama could politicize the bill and tell Republicans: "If you don't raise taxes, like we want taxes to be raised, we are going to hammer the Defense Department."

 "But he is Commander in Chief," Sessions said. "He has a moral obligation to those men and women, to make sure we are safe and they are treated fairly. I don't think that is responsible." 

 

 

Quoting joyfree:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/?_r=0

 

Ironic that the veterans are piling on the President the same way the Rupublicans piled on blocking the jobs bill in 2012 that would have directly benefited them.

 

Here are the 40 Republicans who voted to keep America's veterans unemployed,

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

 

Mark Kirk and James Inhofe did not vote.

 

 

 

grandma B

joyfree
by Kat on Oct. 13, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I'm not surprised that we see this differently, G. Have a good evening.


Quoting grandmab125:

 You bought that bs, didn't you?


Senate Democrats Politicize Veterans, Violate Debt Ceiling Deal

  

Forty Senate Republicans on Wednesday voted against waiving a point of order that Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) had raised on a veterans' jobs bill authored by Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) because the bill violated spending limits set by the debt ceiling deal (the Budget Control Act) and would add to the country's debt.

Sixty votes are needed to waive the point of order, and only 58 Senators voted to do so, which means the order was sustained and the veterans' jobs bill will go back to the Veterans Affairs Committee. 

 Democrats are already trying to politicize the vote and say, falsely, that Republicans voted against veterans. That repeats a cynical political tactic then-Sen. Barack Obama used during the 2008 election, when he made his first attack on rival Sen. John McCain--a veteran and war hero--by accusing him of abandoning veterans:


 Yet Democrats could fix the bill by simply finding $700 million in savings over the next ten years. 


 Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) has also offered an alternative piece of legislation that complies with the Budget Control Act, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will not allow that bill to get a vote on the floor. 


 In addition, Democrats in the Senate have no plans to pass a defense authorization bill, which would be the first time in 50 years that the Senate, which has not passed a budget in nearly four years, will have failed to do so. That is made even worse because Democrats could have designed the veterans' jobs bill without violating the Budget Control Act, and the Senate is slated to go on a seven-week recess.  


 Murray's bill uses budgetary gimmicks to mask over $300 million the bill would add to the country's debt-- and that is what Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, was against.  



 On the Senate floor on September 13, Sessions emphasized his "sole problem" with the legislation was that "it violates the budget and is subject to a budget point of order" and "sustaining the budget point of order, not waiving the budget, does not kill the Murray bill." 


 Sessions also criticized President Barack Obama for not having "said one word about our advancing or putting any effort into leadership that would lead us to fix this problem."


 "Maybe others think it is all right for him to lead from behind, to sit in the White House and go make speeches and not worry about the sequester and not worry about the fact we haven't passed a Defense bill," Sessions said. "I don't think so." 



Sessions said it "seems to me the White House is perfectly happy with inaction" because Obama could politicize the bill and tell Republicans: "If you don't raise taxes, like we want taxes to be raised, we are going to hammer the Defense Department."

 "But he is Commander in Chief," Sessions said. "He has a moral obligation to those men and women, to make sure we are safe and they are treated fairly. I don't think that is responsible." 




Quoting joyfree:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/?_r=0


Ironic that the veterans are piling on the President the same way the Rupublicans piled on blocking the jobs bill in 2012 that would have directly benefited them.


Here are the 40 Republicans who voted to keep America's veterans unemployed,

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)


Mark Kirk and James Inhofe did not vote.


 




grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM
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 And from another article in the Washington Post.

......Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said GOP concerns were about the $1 billion price tag for the program over five years. Republicans described the proposal as a political ploy of no practical value. “If, in fact, we want to help veterans get jobs, there are lots of ways to do it,” Coburn said on the floor before the vote. “We need to make sure the job training programs we have are working, and they’re not.”

......Murray and Nelson said the vote effectively kills the legislation, but Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee who raised the procedural objection, said the action simply requires the veterans committee to come back with a bill that does not add to the deficit. In an interview, he called Democratic claims that the Veterans Job Corps would not require additional funding “a gimmick.”

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the ranking member of the Senate veterans committee, voted against allowing the job corps bill to advance. He has introduced alternative legislation that includes several veterans job-training initiatives but removes the provision establishing the job corps.

“I introduced a substitute amendment because I felt the Democrats’ bill was more focused on their electoral desires than actual real-world outcomes for veterans,” Burr said. 

In a bid to attract GOP support, Murray incorporated all of Burr’s proposals and those of several other Republicans, including measures that would improve veterans’ access to Internet tools to find jobs, and make it easier for troops leaving military service to get transition training for civilian life.

.......

Quoting joyfree:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/?_r=0

Ironic that the veterans are piling on the President the same way the Rupublicans piled on blocking the jobs bill in 2012 that would have directly benefited them.

Here are the 40 Republicans who voted to keep America’s veterans unemployed,

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Mark Kirk and James Inhofe did not vote.

 

grandmab125
by Gold Member on Oct. 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM

 You too....have a good night

Quoting joyfree:

I'm not surprised that we see this differently, G. Have a good evening.

 

Quoting grandmab125:

 You bought that bs, didn't you?

 

Senate Democrats Politicize Veterans, Violate Debt Ceiling Deal

  

Forty Senate Republicans on Wednesday voted against waiving a point of order that Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) had raised on a veterans' jobs bill authored by Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) because the bill violated spending limits set by the debt ceiling deal (the Budget Control Act) and would add to the country's debt.

Sixty votes are needed to waive the point of order, and only 58 Senators voted to do so, which means the order was sustained and the veterans' jobs bill will go back to the Veterans Affairs Committee. 

 Democrats are already trying to politicize the vote and say, falsely, that Republicans voted against veterans. That repeats a cynical political tactic then-Sen. Barack Obama used during the 2008 election, when he made his first attack on rival Sen. John McCain--a veteran and war hero--by accusing him of abandoning veterans:

 

 Yet Democrats could fix the bill by simply finding $700 million in savings over the next ten years. 

 

 Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) has also offered an alternative piece of legislation that complies with the Budget Control Act, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will not allow that bill to get a vote on the floor. 

 

 In addition, Democrats in the Senate have no plans to pass a defense authorization bill, which would be the first time in 50 years that the Senate, which has not passed a budget in nearly four years, will have failed to do so. That is made even worse because Democrats could have designed the veterans' jobs bill without violating the Budget Control Act, and the Senate is slated to go on a seven-week recess.  

 

 Murray's bill uses budgetary gimmicks to mask over $300 million the bill would add to the country's debt-- and that is what Sessions, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, was against.  

 

 

 On the Senate floor on September 13, Sessions emphasized his "sole problem" with the legislation was that "it violates the budget and is subject to a budget point of order" and "sustaining the budget point of order, not waiving the budget, does not kill the Murray bill." 

 

 Sessions also criticized President Barack Obama for not having "said one word about our advancing or putting any effort into leadership that would lead us to fix this problem."

 

 "Maybe others think it is all right for him to lead from behind, to sit in the White House and go make speeches and not worry about the sequester and not worry about the fact we haven't passed a Defense bill," Sessions said. "I don't think so." 

 

 

Sessions said it "seems to me the White House is perfectly happy with inaction" because Obama could politicize the bill and tell Republicans: "If you don't raise taxes, like we want taxes to be raised, we are going to hammer the Defense Department."

 "But he is Commander in Chief," Sessions said. "He has a moral obligation to those men and women, to make sure we are safe and they are treated fairly. I don't think that is responsible." 

 

 

 

Quoting joyfree:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/?_r=0

 

Ironic that the veterans are piling on the President the same way the Rupublicans piled on blocking the jobs bill in 2012 that would have directly benefited them.

 

Here are the 40 Republicans who voted to keep America's veterans unemployed,

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

 

Mark Kirk and James Inhofe did not vote.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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