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PolitiFact lights its own PANTS ON FIRE to explain Obamacare premium increases

Posted by on Oct. 25, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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The left-wing PolitiFact said they were going to start attacking pundits, and that attack has begun, mainly to protect ObamaCare. Sean Hannity has been handed a "mostly false" for citing a Manhattan Institute study PolitiFact didn’t like, and financial reporter Maria Bartiromo earned a "false" for relying on news reports and her own reporting to claim that under ObamaCare "we are becoming something of a part-time country."

Ahem.

But in its zeal to spin this job-killing, middle-class socking, deficit-increasing boondoggle as a good thing, PolitiFact chose to downright lie about why health insurance premiums are increasing.  

"[N]ew rules for insurance plans will tend to push some rates up -- because the plans must provide better coverage."

That is objectively and provably false.

What PolitFact spins as better coverage is nothing of the sort. Not only are deductibles increasing -- which is likely to dissuade people from going to the doctor -- this "better coverage" being forced on us by our benevolent government is in fact coverage most of us do not want or need.

Most people will never need drug, alcohol, and mental health treatment, but ObamaCare makes them pay for it. Do the middle-aged and elderly need  maternity and newborn care, and contraception? And now we are paying for vision and dental -- both of which were affordable in the free market.

by on Oct. 25, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

BUMP!

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by 2HotTacoTini on Oct. 26, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Politifact.com or Brietbart. You decide...

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Oct. 26, 2013 at 1:13 PM

So when you are confronted with error, you point at someone else. Typical liberal distraction tactic.

It's really hard for you to admit that left wing "fact checkers" are neither.

Care to demonstrate? Tell us why these arguments proving PolitiFact's bias are allegedly "inaccurate." 

Quoting Pema_Jampa:

Politifact.com or Brietbart. You decide...


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by 2HotTacoTini on Oct. 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM

ObamaCare Fact Check, Checking The ObamaCare Facts

It's time for an ObamaCare Fact Check. A fact is a fact, and we're checking the ObamaCare facts. If you pay attention to the media you aren't just getting the facts on Obamacare, you're getting opinions. Let's check some "ObamaCare Facts."

The best way to get the Facts on ObamaCare and Obama's health care reform is to use the bill, CBO reports and official IRS and health care reports. Most of us know opinions are skewed by talking points and agendas and your typical ObamaCare fact check article only addresses a small part of what you might want to know. That is why we have complied a comprehensive list of ObamaCare fact checks, ObamaCare myths and ObamaCare Facts.

Didn't find the fact-check you are looking for? Check out our ObamaCare Myths or Our ObamaCare Facts Sections for more ObamaCare Fact Checking. If you can't find it on the site just let us know and we'll find it in the ObamaCare bill and post it on the site.

(ObamaCare Flag Image Public Domain)
Obama Care FlagObamaCare isn't a perfect bill, but repealing it is too simple of an answer. The best thing we can do is Americans is make sure we have our facts straight about what the bill does. Knowing the bill means being able to stick up for the parts that help you and to help change the parts you don't like.

FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Hurts Seniors

There is no death panel and ObamaCare doesn't get rid of Medicare. The death panel myth has been being circulated since 2009 and has been debunked a number of times. In fact a provision of ObamaCare about doctors providing in home counseling to seniors had to be cut from the bill because of this rumor. The fact is there is no group of unelected people who decide if you get surgery based on any factor. About 1/4 of the entire 2000 plus page bill is aimed at improving and expanding care for seniors.

In fact ObamaCare closes the part D "donut hole" of Medicare, expands coverage for seniors who need help at home or are in nursing homes and greatly increases their access to preventive care. It also reforms Medicare advantage, a private program that is costing the tax payers millions and is lacking in the coverage it provides to seniors.

FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Raises Taxes

Check out this fact ObamaCare only raises taxes on those who claim a taxable income over $200k for an individual or $250k for a business or family. In other words the 3.8% income tax and 3.8% capital gains tax only affects 2% of people and 3% of small businesses. To find out more about the 21 new taxes in ObamaCare and how they affect you check out Our Full List of ObamaCare Taxes

FACT CHECK: ObamaCare is a Handout or Free Ride

ObamaCare covers helps all individuals rich and poor. For some of us that means government assistance, for others it means better coverage on our existing plans. Everyone pays in what they can to ObamaCare. At the end of the day the fact is that ObamaCare is a program will help 98% of Americans, all those who can afford to pay will, the rest will be helped with subsidies, tax breaks or will be covered under the expansion of Medicaid.

FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Raising Health Insurance Premiums?

Opinion: Republicans Blame the 9% Health Insurance Premium increase on Obama Care

Fact: Healthcare, like most other costs are rising every year. What isn't being mentioned is that ObamaCare protects Americans by limiting the amounts insurance companies can raise their premiums by (to increase profit, they must justify their rate hikes to the state they operate in and then post the information on their website). Many Americans are seeing their insurance premiums rise because some health care companies are trying to grandfather people in at higher rates and increase profit before these protections go into effect.

FACT CHECK: Millions Will Lose Coverage

The fact is that no one who has health insurance will be forced to lose coverage under ObamaCare. ObamaCare covers tens of millions currently uninsured Americans and provides better coverage to those who currently have health insurance. Some of these new protections include:

  • Coverage for preventive care without co-pays or deductibles
  • Children can stay on parents' insurance until 26
  • Annual Coverage limits were increased

  • Medicaid is Expanded to Cover Our Nations Poorest
  • Children with preexisting conditions must be covered
  • and more!

    Pema_Jampa
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    IDFWU
    Yesterday at 2:54 PM
    Big Sean - I Don't Fuck With You (Explicit) ft. E-40

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    by 2HotTacoTini on Oct. 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Point at someone else? Saying it is a different opinion and people should decide for themselves is pointing a finger? Not in my world.


    Quoting SallyMJ:

    So when you are confronted with error, you point at someone else. Typical liberal distraction tactic.

    It's really hard for you to admit that left wing "fact checkers" are neither.

    Care to demonstrate? Tell us why these arguments proving PolitiFact's bias are allegedly "inaccurate." 

    Quoting Pema_Jampa:

    Politifact.com or Brietbart. You decide...



    SallyMJ
    by Ruby Member on Oct. 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Thanks for those old laughs.

    What was your point again regarding the huge premium increases averaging 99% for men and 64% for women?

    Quoting Pema_Jampa:

    ObamaCare Fact Check, Checking The ObamaCare Facts

    It's time for an ObamaCare Fact Check. A fact is a fact, and we're checking the ObamaCare facts. If you pay attention to the media you aren't just getting the facts on Obamacare, you're getting opinions. Let's check some "ObamaCare Facts."

    The best way to get the Facts on ObamaCare and Obama's health care reform is to use the bill, CBO reports and official IRS and health care reports. Most of us know opinions are skewed by talking points and agendas and your typical ObamaCare fact check article only addresses a small part of what you might want to know. That is why we have complied a comprehensive list of ObamaCare fact checks, ObamaCare myths and ObamaCare Facts.

    Didn't find the fact-check you are looking for? Check out our ObamaCare Myths or Our ObamaCare Facts Sections for more ObamaCare Fact Checking. If you can't find it on the site just let us know and we'll find it in the ObamaCare bill and post it on the site.

    (ObamaCare Flag Image Public Domain)
    Obama Care FlagObamaCare isn't a perfect bill, but repealing it is too simple of an answer. The best thing we can do is Americans is make sure we have our facts straight about what the bill does. Knowing the bill means being able to stick up for the parts that help you and to help change the parts you don't like.

    FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Hurts Seniors

    There is no death panel and ObamaCare doesn't get rid of Medicare. The death panel myth has been being circulated since 2009 and has been debunked a number of times. In fact a provision of ObamaCare about doctors providing in home counseling to seniors had to be cut from the bill because of this rumor. The fact is there is no group of unelected people who decide if you get surgery based on any factor. About 1/4 of the entire 2000 plus page bill is aimed at improving and expanding care for seniors.

    In fact ObamaCare closes the part D "donut hole" of Medicare, expands coverage for seniors who need help at home or are in nursing homes and greatly increases their access to preventive care. It also reforms Medicare advantage, a private program that is costing the tax payers millions and is lacking in the coverage it provides to seniors.

    FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Raises Taxes

    Check out this fact ObamaCare only raises taxes on those who claim a taxable income over $200k for an individual or $250k for a business or family. In other words the 3.8% income tax and 3.8% capital gains tax only affects 2% of people and 3% of small businesses. To find out more about the 21 new taxes in ObamaCare and how they affect you check out Our Full List of ObamaCare Taxes

    FACT CHECK: ObamaCare is a Handout or Free Ride

    ObamaCare covers helps all individuals rich and poor. For some of us that means government assistance, for others it means better coverage on our existing plans. Everyone pays in what they can to ObamaCare. At the end of the day the fact is that ObamaCare is a program will help 98% of Americans, all those who can afford to pay will, the rest will be helped with subsidies, tax breaks or will be covered under the expansion of Medicaid.

    FACT CHECK: ObamaCare Raising Health Insurance Premiums?

    Opinion: Republicans Blame the 9% Health Insurance Premium increase on Obama Care

    Fact: Healthcare, like most other costs are rising every year. What isn't being mentioned is that ObamaCare protects Americans by limiting the amounts insurance companies can raise their premiums by (to increase profit, they must justify their rate hikes to the state they operate in and then post the information on their website). Many Americans are seeing their insurance premiums rise because some health care companies are trying to grandfather people in at higher rates and increase profit before these protections go into effect.

    FACT CHECK: Millions Will Lose Coverage

    The fact is that no one who has health insurance will be forced to lose coverage under ObamaCare. ObamaCare covers tens of millions currently uninsured Americans and provides better coverage to those who currently have health insurance. Some of these new protections include:

  • Coverage for preventive care without co-pays or deductibles
  • Children can stay on parents' insurance until 26
  • Annual Coverage limits were increased


  • Medicaid is Expanded to Cover Our Nations Poorest
  • Children with preexisting conditions must be covered
  • and more!


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