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Another Obamacare Deadline Blunder Is Worrying Democrats

Posted by on Oct. 31, 2013 at 2:28 AM
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WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats facing reelection next year aren't just fretting about a balky website and President Barack Obama's misleading campaign statements on health care. Now they've begun worrying about another deadline a year away.

According to an Affordable Care Act timetable established by administration officials, early next October insurance companies will announce their new menu of health care plans for the ACA marketplaces -- plans that may be more varied and numerous than those offered this year, but that almost certainly will come with higher prices.

The likely price hikes will hit the individual and small-business insurance markets only weeks before Election Day on Nov. 4, 2014.

"What genius came up with that timetable?" asked one key Democrat, who declined to be quoted by name because he is involved in private White House talks.

Democratic senators and their political advisers have been lobbying the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services to push back the next "open season" date until after the election, to no avail.

The concern about the 2014 timetable highlights a fundamental political reality of Obamacare: The success or failure of the program depends largely on the kindness of strangers -- the insurance companies -- and whatever happens in the marketplace, for good or ill, will be ascribed to President Obama and the Democrats, since Republicans refused to vote for the law or cooperate in efforts to make it work.

The president's job approval rating is already down to 42 percent in the new NBC poll, the lowest of his presidency in that survey.

"People are going to compare the world as it existed before Obamacare to the world that exists after it," said Democratic consultant Mark Mellman. "Some of the resulting judgments they make aren't going to be fair. Rates in many places and for many people will rise and would have risen with or without the new program, but voters will tend to look to Obamacare one way or the other."

"Luckily," Mellman added, "we have the Republicans out there to make us look good by comparison."

But that is not enough to entirely allay the Democrats' fears. Eleven Senate Democrats, most of them running for reelection in 2014, have asked the administration to postpone the deadline for obtaining individual insurance past the current date of March 31, given the problems with the Obamacare website.

They haven't received an official response but have been told that the deadline can't be pushed back. To do so, the senators have been told, would actually increase the likelihood of major price hikes next October. The theory is that extending the deadline would lead to even more sick people signing up, while young, healthy people would remain skeptical and wary of the program.

It's not clear that the 11 senators really expect a deadline change or whether they are asking for it simply to show voters back home that they're concerned. Administration officials also contend that extending the deadline would require legislation -- and that putting such a bill on the Senate and House floors would invite other amendments and give Republicans a chance to dismantle the program.

Democrats weren't been pleased with the spate of stories about how the president, at best, oversimplified his campaign-season assurances about the program. But there was little they could do, and they largely kept mum on that fraught topic.

They were left to explain -- correctly -- that the coverage that individuals are losing now was, for the most part, barely coverage at all. And they are reminding all who will listen that the vast majority of Americans are covered by their employer plans.

"We have to remember that we are in the white heat of this controversy now," said Mellman. "The temperature will be a lot lower a year from now."

Maybe -- depending on how many people lose coverage, how many sign up for new policies and what the prices are as Election Day nears.

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143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 2:29 AM
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"Luckily," Mellman added, "we have the Republicans out there to make us look good by comparison."

Really? The ONE thing people will remember is Barry's "legacy"...Obamacare..ACA. If their rates go up, you better hold on tight to those fond memories. Cuz that'll be all you have.

imagirlgeek
by Bronze Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 3:31 AM
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They were left to explain -- correctly -- that the coverage that individuals are losing now was, for the most part, barely coverage at all. And they are reminding all who will listen that the vast majority of Americans are covered by their employer plans.

They keep saying this, but it doesn't matter how much they say it, the people who are being forced into a more expensive plan are pissed off about it.  They can say the coverage wasn't good all day long, every day, but it's not going to change the feelings of the people who are being affected financially by this.  People will forget most everything in the 72 hour news cycle, but when they are hit in the pocketbook every month, they are not going to forget.  

It also doesn't matter what they do at this point.  They can extend the sign up period, but that's not going to help the people who's current plans are ending in the next couple of months.  They should be very, very nervous.

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rocketracer
by Gold Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 6:35 AM
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The "hurry up and go live" on October 1, 2013 was due to the November 2013 elections.  That WAS transparent. The administration thought the roll-out was be a glowing success.  Well, guess what it blew up in their faces.  The federal gov't did build that website and it sucks.  Now, the truth is coming out about premiums and deductibles is coming out....Well, guess what now....the federal gov't did build that law and it SUCKS! Hope voters in 2013 pay attention.

MomTiara19
by Silver Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 6:53 AM

The Affordable Care Act requires companies to give you the best coverage.Some of the health insurances did not meet the standards of Obama-care.Every company had to adjust the plans to service their employees.

As a consumer you have many and better choices.I still have Blue Cross Blue Shield and my same doctors.

The roll out is indeed cumbersome being on such a large scale.Yet everyone having health-care is for the greater good for all.

When you become ill no-one asks if youre a democrat or republican.We all need healthcare.


rocketracer
by Gold Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 6:58 AM
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No one asks that today.

Quoting MomTiara19:


When you become ill no-one asks if youre a democrat or republican.We all need healthcare.




rocketracer
by Gold Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 7:03 AM
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Why would anyone believe anything positive said about ACA, especially after it's promoters said the website was ready to go....Did anyone notice that as Kathleen Sebelius said (while under oath) the website hasn't crashed, yet at that moment a congressman held up his ipad to show at that moment the website was DOWN!

SherryBerry106
by on Oct. 31, 2013 at 8:04 AM
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I wonder if you actually know what words mean.

By the administration's own predictions 20 million will still be uninsured, they are simply hoping that it won't all still be the Democratic Base.

Quoting MomTiara19:

The Affordable Care Act requires companies to give you the best coverage.Some of the health insurances did not meet the standards of Obama-care.Every company had to adjust the plans to service their employees.

As a consumer you have many and better choices.I still have Blue Cross Blue Shield and my same doctors.

The roll out is indeed cumbersome being on such a large scale.Yet everyone having health-care is for the greater good for all.

When you become ill no-one asks if youre a democrat or republican.We all need healthcare.

 


 

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM

 

Pretty sure that is coming though.

Quoting rocketracer:

No one asks that today.

Quoting MomTiara19:

 

When you become ill no-one asks if youre a democrat or republican.We all need healthcare.

 

 

 


 

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 8:22 AM
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It didn't technically crash - it just was down (landing in a big pile of soft shit).

Quoting rocketracer:

Why would anyone believe anything positive said about ACA, especially after it's promoters said the website was ready to go....Did anyone notice that as Kathleen Sebelius said (while under oath) the website hasn't crashed, yet at that moment a congressman held up his ipad to show at that moment the website was DOWN!


 

Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on Oct. 31, 2013 at 9:13 AM
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People will keep getting pissed at this because they liked their plans for the most part. They chose them. They paid for them. And in swoops the government to say "Your choice wasn't good enough - here, this one is better for you. You don't mind paying 60% more, do you!"

Quoting imagirlgeek:



Quote:

They were left to explain -- correctly -- that the coverage that individuals are losing now was, for the most part, barely coverage at all. And they are reminding all who will listen that the vast majority of Americans are covered by their employer plans.

They keep saying this, but it doesn't matter how much they say it, the people who are being forced into a more expensive plan are pissed off about it.  They can say the coverage wasn't good all day long, every day, but it's not going to change the feelings of the people who are being affected financially by this.  People will forget most everything in the 72 hour news cycle, but when they are hit in the pocketbook every month, they are not going to forget.  

It also doesn't matter what they do at this point.  They can extend the sign up period, but that's not going to help the people who's current plans are ending in the next couple of months.  They should be very, very nervous.

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