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“Junk Health Plans” – Our Politicians Failing To Point Out The Fundamental Flaw In Liberal Logic

Posted by on Nov. 14, 2013 at 3:42 AM
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humor-in-nature8CNN’s Jake Tapper just interviewed Eric Cantor and continued to repeat the White House obfuscation position as he questioned the House Whip, Cantor:

“*Some* of these insurance policy cancellations are for junk plans”.   “These are insurance plans which do not live up to the high standard of Obamacare coverage”.

Ergo, some of these insurance cancellations are good for the insured, the plan is better for them, and the policy deserves to be cancelled. (???)

Eric Cantor, and just about every politico who is faced with this question, failed, yet again, to accurately push back against this framework.    A simple word would be the best response, “So?” 

If the Obamacare plan is better for the consumer, then let the Obamacare plan be a choice for the consumer.

Put the Obamacare option on the table for the consumer to decide, but let the choice rest with the consumer.

The leftist ideologues present themselves as the party of “pro-choice”, so let their own ideology attack their own position.

If Obamacare is better then let it be available as a choice.  If the health insurance consumer wants to change, they can.     Why should a consumer be forced to lose that which they are comfortable with?   That change should be their choice?


Obama if I like your plan you can keep it


by on Nov. 14, 2013 at 3:42 AM
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-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Nov. 14, 2013 at 6:37 AM
but let the choice rest with the consumer.



Tell that to the insurance companies that know their plan is shit.
4kidz916
by Gold Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 8:06 AM
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For a healthy person living on a budget, these plans may be exactly what they wanted and needed.  They may not be the best, but at least they could afford the premiums.  It should be a choice of the consumer.  And not all the plans being canceled are "junk" plans.  My BIL had a fairly good, affordable plan with Blue Cross and that plan has been done away with and to meet the ACA requirements the premium is doubling.  Now he can't afford it....so how is that helping him?

Quoting -Celestial-:

but let the choice rest with the consumer.



Tell that to the insurance companies that know their plan is shit.


rocketracer
by Gold Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 8:21 AM
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Not everyone needs to buy maternity, pediatric vision and dental, prescription drug coverage, or mental health coverage.....The Left only likes CHOICE for one thing and I won't get into that debate here. 

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Nov. 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM

4kidz916
by Gold Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM
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In most cases I've heard of, it's not that the companies are getting rid of the policy holders.  They are having to change the plans to meet the requirements of the ACA.  In some cases the requirements could be a good thing, but for a young and healthy person it's a waste.  Just like others mentioned, why would a single man need maternity care and of course not all of America needs mental health coverage.  Health insurance is a good thing but it needs to be tailored to each individual or each family, not one size fits all.  We the people need to choose what's best for us--not the government. 

Quoting -Celestial-:


Ednarooni160
by Eds on Nov. 14, 2013 at 10:08 AM
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Quoting 4kidz916:

For a healthy person living on a budget, these plans may be exactly what they wanted and needed.  They may not be the best, but at least they could afford the premiums.  It should be a choice of the consumer.  And not all the plans being canceled are "junk" plans.  My BIL had a fairly good, affordable plan with Blue Cross and that plan has been done away with and to meet the ACA requirements the premium is doubling.  Now he can't afford it....so how is that helping him?

Quoting -Celestial-:

but let the choice rest with the consumer.



Tell that to the insurance companies that know their plan is shit.


Exactly..(imo) it's hurting more people than helping..and the gov HAS to see this..so I'm guessing what some say on here is a plan in action for universal health care...probably is a given.

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Nov. 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM
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Quoting -Celestial-:

He seemed to know all the INS and OUTS of the car companies when he decided to bail them out..but he didn't know the INS and OUTS of the insurance companies.. Give us a break Celestial..you are smarter than that..you are just PR ing for him and this atrocious plan.


4kidz916
by Gold Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM
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Just look at their numbers and you'll see more people are hurt by this than are being helped.  The followers and defenders can keep posting their memes and sound bites but it doesn't change the truth. 

Quoting Ednarooni160:



Quoting 4kidz916:

For a healthy person living on a budget, these plans may be exactly what they wanted and needed.  They may not be the best, but at least they could afford the premiums.  It should be a choice of the consumer.  And not all the plans being canceled are "junk" plans.  My BIL had a fairly good, affordable plan with Blue Cross and that plan has been done away with and to meet the ACA requirements the premium is doubling.  Now he can't afford it....so how is that helping him?

Quoting -Celestial-:

but let the choice rest with the consumer.



Tell that to the insurance companies that know their plan is shit.


Exactly..(imo) it's hurting more people than helping..and the gov HAS to see this..so I'm guessing what some say on here is a plan in action for universal health care...probably is a given.

 


rocketracer
by Gold Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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Certainly, you're not that stupid or brainwashed to believe that statement and are smart enough to analyze the problems with ACA, especially the faulty economics behind it.


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hhhanna
by Member on Nov. 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

The liberals think this way because they KNOW that they know better than you.  So just roll over, wet on yourself (when they tell you to) and everything will be just peachy keen.

 

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