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City Threatens Woman Helping Those in Need With Fines

Posted by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM
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City Threatens Woman Helping Those in Need With Fines

For nearly three decades, Debbie Nall has opened her home to those in need, but she recently was told by a city notice she could face large fines if she continued to do so.

The woman from Lawrence, Kan., said she frequently helps the homeless, military members and victims of domestic violence. In the 26 years she has lived in her three-story home, Nall told KCTV-TV she has helped more than 90 people when they needed it most by letting them take temporary residence in six of her bedrooms.

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Debbie Nall, who has been providing housing for those in need for nearly three decades in her home, learned recently having more than three unrelated guests for an extended period of time violated a city ordinance. (Image source: KCTV-TV)

“Usually it’s abused women, displaced women or people who have gotten out of the hospital who don’t want to die in the hospital,” she told the news station. “If people only knew the blessing that comes out of it.”

As it turns out, Nall taking in a number of guests for a certain period of time is in violation of a city ordinance. KCTV reported the city of Lawrence ordinance does not allow a homeowner to put up more than three unrelated guests in their home in a 90-day period. Nall said the city approached her after a complaint was made by a neighbor.

City officials were not available to comment on this issue due to the Thanksgiving holiday, KCTV reported.

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Nall might sell her home and move outside the city where she would not be restricted by such an ordinance. (Image source: KCTV-TV)

Nall’s daughter doesn’t understand how her mother is violating an ordinance.

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“These are her guests. The house is not overflowing. If you have eight bedrooms, own your home, how can the city impose fines for opening your home to guests?” Nall’s daughter wrote to KCTV. “Not renters. She takes no money. She asks for no help. She has worked her whole life to pay her house off and now the city fines her heavily for opening her doors.”

Watch KCTV’s report about the situation:


VIDEO HERE:  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/28/city-threatens-woman-helping-those-in-need-with-fines/

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Ednarooni160
by Eds on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Rules are rules I get that...but what a "wonderful" thing that she is doing.

cjsmom1
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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Shame on her neighbor for reporting her. I think what she's doing is wonderful. I'm sure it means a lot to the people she's helping.
autodidact
by Silver Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM
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fucking ridiculous. 

Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

It is nice that she is doing this - but if the city has an ordinance, she needs to follow them.  She should incorporate as a non profit and seek a license to provide refuge - not whine about being made to adhere to the rules on the books.  Sheesh, people think if they do something nice, they can ignore the regulations.  

JanuaryBaby06
by Gold Member on Nov. 29, 2013 at 2:22 AM

Hopefully she can get enough of a following to rally together and cry out that this law needs to be changed.

JanuaryBaby06
by Gold Member on Nov. 29, 2013 at 2:31 AM


I'm guessing that since she has been doing this for so long that she wasn't even aware of this regulation in the first place. I wouldn't have been. Makes me want to look up if that is a thing here as well because I don't even know. I hope that her "whining" get's enough followers so that they can fight this ordinance & hopefully get it taken off the books. If you view something as wrong dont simply adhere to it.... fight to get it changed. While doing so follow the law but with the intent to change it.

Quoting Analeigh2012:

It is nice that she is doing this - but if the city has an ordinance, she needs to follow them.  She should incorporate as a non profit and seek a license to provide refuge - not whine about being made to adhere to the rules on the books.  Sheesh, people think if they do something nice, they can ignore the regulations.  



kcangel63
by Amanda on Nov. 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Hopefully she can continue to help them out.
Ziva65
by Bronze Member on Nov. 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM

She does have a heart, and it's admirable what she is doing. I do however think she also needs to follow ordinances, as here's a reason for them. Honestly, if I were a neighbor I might be annoyed too. If you move there knowing that's what she does, and you choose to live next door, that's one thing, but I could see how it would really bother neighbors.

I've also wondered about these people who go onto the streets and hand out food on Thanksgiving to homeless people- make  and handout sandwiches, etc. I think that too is very admirable, but things happen. Food poisoning, etc- then they are held responsible for what they think is being a good samaritan. IDK, seems like a catch 22.

Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on Nov. 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM
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Oh, I agree completely. That is the only way to drive change - but don't violate the ordinance and hope there is enough people to stand with her - do the right thing from the start. I would (and do) check all ordinances for where we live, if we are going to start any project or activity - it's only a phone call.

Quoting JanuaryBaby06:


I'm guessing that since she has been doing this for so long that she wasn't even aware of this regulation in the first place. I wouldn't have been. Makes me want to look up if that is a thing here as well because I don't even know. I hope that her "whining" get's enough followers so that they can fight this ordinance & hopefully get it taken off the books. If you view something as wrong dont simply adhere to it.... fight to get it changed. While doing so follow the law but with the intent to change it.


Quoting Analeigh2012:

It is nice that she is doing this - but if the city has an ordinance, she needs to follow them.  She should incorporate as a non profit and seek a license to provide refuge - not whine about being made to adhere to the rules on the books.  Sheesh, people think if they do something nice, they can ignore the regulations.  




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colins_mom
by Member on Nov. 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM
sounds like a place in OH. a friend of.mine told me that her college couldn't have sorority houses because a house with 3 or more unrelated women living there was considered a brothel
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