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Florida Man Claims Self-Defense After Hopping A Fence To Shoot, Kill 21-Year-Old In A Hoodie

Posted by on Jan. 21, 2014 at 4:48 PM
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On Thursday, an Orlando man shot and killed a 21-year-old who was fleeing his yard. He didn’t appear to be stealing anything, according to witness accounts. He didn’t appear to be threatening anybody. But Claudius Smith said he feared he was a burglar, followed him over the fence to a neighboring apartment complex, where he shot him after he said he felt threatened, according to a confession documented in an Orlando Police Department report. Smith even said he feared victim Ricardo Sanes was armed “because his pants were falling down” and his hands were in his hoodie pockets, according to a report obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.
Now, questions are emerging about whether Smith will also invoke the state’s Stand Your Ground law, which gained notoriety over the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, shot in a Florida residential development while wearing a hoodie. Law enforcement officials don’t seem to believe Stand Your Ground applies. Smith has already been charged with second-degree murder. But that doesn’t stop a judge from granting Stand Your Ground immunity later. In one of the most recent Florida court decisions on Stand Your Ground, an appeals court granted Stand Your Ground immunity to a man who went to his car to get a gun before the fatal incident.
According to statements by Smith’s girlfriend, Angela Kemraj, to police, the incident started when she saw a man in the yard on surveillance cameras and reported it to Smith. She said they saw the individual in dark clothes and a hoodie leaving their yard without anything in his hands, and climbing over the fence to a neighboring apartment complex. Smith then left the apartment and climbed over the fence. Two minutes later, Kemraj said she heard gunshots. Soon after, Smith came back to the apartment and said Sanes tried to rob him, without mentioning the shooting. During initial police questioning, Smith later denied knowledge about the shooting, and only later confessed, claiming he shot in self-defense.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/01/21/3187451/florida-suspect-says-believed-man-killed-armed-pants-falling/
by on Jan. 21, 2014 at 4:48 PM
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Sat.Wed
by Bronze Member on Jan. 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM
Sorry Stand your ground doesnt NOT work in this case stupid people
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ashellbell
by Bronze Member on Jan. 21, 2014 at 4:54 PM
Christ on a cracker, what the hell are they drinking in Florida?
gludwig2000
by Gina on Jan. 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM

 I'm glad to see that they have arrested him for second degree murder, but I wonder if his following the man into another apartment building constitutes intention? Florida really needs to get a handle on all of these shootings.

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Jan. 22, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Think Progess?

Is there a real source for the story?

JoJoBean8
by Silver Member on Jan. 22, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Need to find an unbiased source for this story before I decide if I agree or disagree with what he did. 

VooDooB
by Member on Jan. 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM
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he incident started when she saw a man in the yard on surveillance cameras and reported it to Smith. She said they saw the individual in dark clothes and a hoodie leaving their yard without anything in his hands, and climbing over the fence to a neighboring apartment complex


I agree Stand Your Ground should NOT be applied in this case. But for fucks sakes people need to stay the hell off people's property! Climbing fences into someone else's private property....come 'on! Something very wrong there. It makes homeowners feel violated, threatened, and scared. When people feel that way, they do stupid stuff.

dustinsmom1
by Member on Jan. 22, 2014 at 11:55 AM

 Im not defending the shooter/shooting, but Jesus people stay off other peoples property!! Why is it all of the sudden OK to just go traipsing through peoples yards and jump their fences? Thats suspicious behavior to me.

JanuaryBaby06
by on Jan. 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM

If you have to chase the person down I don't think that qualifies as self defence.....

amay-armani
by New Member on Jan. 22, 2014 at 11:46 PM
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One the man was not in his yard two the man made no threat, this is down right ignorance and racism that still exists until this day and in florida has alot of it. But rinning to protest whould not work. But going back to how the black Panthers handeled things would. This is just crazy.
slashteddy
by Member on Jan. 23, 2014 at 12:01 AM
He left his apartment, according to the article... It's not like he lived in a home with a fenced yard. He lived in an apartment complex. The guy had been walking through one apartment complex to get to another.A shortcut, and not illegal by any means.

This is not a case of "he was on my property!" This is a case of, "he was near my apartment and I didn't like it!" The 21-year old, according to the article, was not hopping this shooter's personal fence, which means his complex likely doesn't have fenced-in patios. His "yard" probably even isn't HIS.

It sounds like this guy happened to cut too close to an apartment on his way home and the renter just went nuts.

I'd like to see him found guilty, but that probably won't happen.
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