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‘Wrap This Segment Up!’: Watch What Happens to Cable News Debate on UAW Vote After Guest Brings Up Volkswagen’s ‘Long, Storied History With Hitler’

Democratic strategist Bob Beckel on Tuesday joined with other pro-union pundits in blaming United Auto Workers’ stunning defeat at the hands of Volkswagen workers last week on cultural bias, going so far as to invoke the automaker’s past with Nazi Germany.

Wrap This Segment Up!: Watch What Happens to Cable News Debate on UAW Vote After Guest Brings Up Volkswagens Long, Storied History With Hitler

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“Let’s face it,” Beckel said on Fox News Tuesday, “Volkswagen has the kind of unionization it does because V.W. had a long, storied history with Hitler and the Nazis.”

Fox News’ Bill Hemmer and Andrea Tantaros responded with audible groans and urged Beckel to leave it at that.

“Bill, wrap this segment up,” said Tantaros, one of Beckel’s co-hosts on Fox’s “The Five.”

“We don’t have enough time,” Hemmer said, directing his comment at Beckel.

“That’s the problem!” Beckel said. “You can’t raise these things because history — history dictates a lot of things! If you don’t think Volkswagen had a long, storied history with the Nazis, it’s the reason that they got unionized. It’s the first company to unionize in Germany, when the Americans took over.”

Tantaros interjected: “Volkswagen didn’t have to invite UAW to the table and have conversations with them. And they did and they left it up to the workers. Leave it at that.”



After spending an enormous amount of money wooing workers at the Tennessee plant, the UAW was ultimately rejected last week by a vote of 712-626.

Beckel’s comments were made in reference to other pro-union pundits who have suggested since the results of the vote were released late Friday that that some sort of deep-rooted cultural and racial biases may have played a role in the UAW’s defeat.

Those opposed to the UAW’s efforts “portrayed this as a northern invasion, a re-fighting of the Civil War,” MSNBC’s Timothy Noah said after the vote. “Apparently, there are not a lot of black employees in this particular plant, so that kind – waving of the Confederate flag was an effective strategy.”

Beckel seemingly shied away from saying outright that racism was responsible for the UAW’s defeat.

“I’m blaming much more the culture than I am race,” he said when pressed for clarification by Hemmer. “I talked to a UAW organizer who was down there and he said stuff on the floor of the shop – it was people saying, other businesses in the area, saying, ‘We don’t want to be unionized. You really want these Northern people to come down here?’ This very much reminds us of the civil rights movement.’”

“Just to be clear,” Hemmer said, “that’s what you’re going with?”

“What do you mean, ‘that’s what I’m going with’?” Beckel asked.

“The secondhand talk on the floor of a plant that claims racism? It just seems like … everything south of the Mason-Dixon Line comes back to the Confederate flag?” Hemmer said.

“Well, Democrats would like it to come back,” Tantaros said.

Shortly after that exchange, Beckel fell back on Nazi references, prompting Hemmer to wrap up the segment as quickly as possible.

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vic270
by Silver Member on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:15 PM


Quoting vic270:

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

I'm just shocked he a liberal made a comparison to Hitler..  How dare he?

vic270
by Silver Member on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:27 PM

 he don't care. he has been in trouble with fox lots of times, if it wasn't for some of his co-host i think he would have been gone already.

Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

Quoting vic270:

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

I'm just shocked he a liberal made a comparison to Hitler..  How dare he?

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:32 PM
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Quoting vic270:

 he don't care. he has been in trouble with fox lots of times, if it wasn't for some of his co-host i think he would have been gone already.

Quoting Ednarooni160:


Quoting vic270:

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

I'm just shocked he a liberal made a comparison to Hitler..  How dare he?


LOL..I'm being sarcastic..I approve of Bob using comparisons to get his point across..as it should be..even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says.    Hitler and the Nazi's is something that SHOULD not happen again and we need to be able to read the signs.. Many people of all religions and non religions died at the hands of one manipulative controling dictator..and we can NOT forget that things like that can happen here "today"..right under our noses.  Read the signs people..it CAN happen..History CAN repeat itself.   

vic270
by Silver Member on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:47 PM
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 Beckel can make me so mad, then turn around and do or say something that makes you forget how mad you were at him. i'm like you I don't agree with everything he says but I like him. as for the history repeating itself, unless we quit doing the same things over and over and expecting different results, you are right it can and possibly will repeat itself again. I wish ppl would go back and read about all of this, if they had a refresher course maybe some would change when you look toward the future and see the things that are already in motion. I know I will get accused of fear mongering.

Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

Quoting vic270:

 he don't care. he has been in trouble with fox lots of times, if it wasn't for some of his co-host i think he would have been gone already.

Quoting Ednarooni160:

 

Quoting vic270:

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

I'm just shocked he a liberal made a comparison to Hitler..  How dare he?

 

LOL..I'm being sarcastic..I approve of Bob using comparisons to get his point across..as it should be..even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says.    Hitler and the Nazi's is something that SHOULD not happen again and we need to be able to read the signs.. Many people of all religions and non religions died at the hands of one manipulative controling dictator..and we can NOT forget that things like that can happen here "today"..right under our noses.  Read the signs people..it CAN happen..History CAN repeat itself.   

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Feb. 18, 2014 at 7:50 PM
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Quoting vic270:

 Beckel can make me so mad, then turn around and do or say something that makes you forget how mad you were at him. i'm like you I don't agree with everything he says but I like him. as for the history repeating itself, unless we quit doing the same things over and over and expecting different results, you are right it can and possibly will repeat itself again. I wish ppl would go back and read about all of this, if they had a refresher course maybe some would change when you look toward the future and see the things that are already in motion. I know I will get accused of fear mongering.

Quoting Ednarooni160:


Quoting vic270:

 he don't care. he has been in trouble with fox lots of times, if it wasn't for some of his co-host i think he would have been gone already.

Quoting Ednarooni160:


Quoting vic270:

Beckel has been known to stick his big foot in his mouth many times on the five. He has come out with the lots of ugly things and they have to go to commercial. He's a typical liberal democrat.

I'm just shocked he a liberal made a comparison to Hitler..  How dare he?


LOL..I'm being sarcastic..I approve of Bob using comparisons to get his point across..as it should be..even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says.    Hitler and the Nazi's is something that SHOULD not happen again and we need to be able to read the signs.. Many people of all religions and non religions died at the hands of one manipulative controling dictator..and we can NOT forget that things like that can happen here "today"..right under our noses.  Read the signs people..it CAN happen..History CAN repeat itself.   


You're not fear mongering..at all.. History CAN repeat itself..and people always think "it can't happen to us..can't happen in the U.S.".. Oh yes it can..

grandmab125
by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2014 at 12:57 AM
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 As one auto worker commented to a reporter....something to the effect of....'Look at what the unions did to Detroit.   They are tearing down neighborhoods.  We don't want that down here.'.

Most of those workers know they have it good without the union.  Why should they pay union dues to eventually end up, because of union demands, losing their jobs because the plants close down and go somewhere else....just like Detroit.

Billiejeens
by on Feb. 19, 2014 at 10:15 AM

BUMP!

Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I have a love-hate relationship with Bob Beckel.  It's all one sided, he doesn't even know my name.  But sometimes he makes a ton of sense and other times he makes me so mad!  He does speak without thinking his thoughts all the way through sometimes.  Maybe it was all the alcohol he drank in his past.  He brings up a historical fact which is something I really respect.

lylalane7275
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Me too, but mostly love.  I think it's very telling how much the conservative hosts love him.  He has a key to Hannity's house and is welcome there any time.

Quoting Analeigh2012:

I have a love-hate affair with Beckle.  


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