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Surprise: Gun Deaths and Violence Rampant in Red States With LESS Gun Regulation!

Posted by on Feb. 20, 2014 at 11:04 PM
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Every conservative, gun-toting outlet from Fox News, Rand Paul, to the NRA has tried their very hardest to convince the American public that gun violence and gun related deaths are predominantly present in states that had stricter gun laws.

However, they are  literally and unsurprisingly dead wrong.

A study from the Center for American Progress (CAP) in April 2013 shows that  the states with laxer gun laws tend to be the ones contributing the highest share of national gun deaths and injuries.

The study, named “Under the Gun,” with the help of statistics gathered from the FBI, Centers for Disease Control, and the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, recorded the overall firearm deaths in 2010, overall firearm deaths from 2001 through 2010, firearm homicides in 2010, firearm suicides in 2010, firearm homicides among women from 2001 through 2010, firearm deaths among children ages 0 to 17, from 2001 through 2010, law-enforcement agents feloniously killed with a firearm from 2002 through 2011, aggravated assaults with a firearm in 2011, and crime-gun export rates in 2009 to determine the states with the highest rates of gun violence/deaths.

The article states, “While the strength of a state’s gun laws is just one factor in the prevalence of gun-related violence in the state and cannot alone account for gun violence, there is a clear link between weak gun laws and high levels of gun violence across the United States.”

The outcome disproved and dispelled everything and anything the NRA and Republican talking heads have had to say regarding gun violence.

The study has shown that overall firearm deaths between 2001-2010 nationally was about 10.33 per 100,000 people. The states that rank the highest in overall firearm deaths are:

1. Louisiana, 18.9 per 100,000

2. Alaska, 17.84

3. Mississippi, 16.98

4. Alabama, 16.62

5. Nevada, 15.92

6. Wyoming, 15.9

7. Montana, 15.5

8. Arizona, 15.48

9. Arkansas, 15.32

10. Tennessee, 15.19

States that have the most relaxed gun laws (as of April 2013):

1. South Dakota

2. Arizona

3. Mississippi

4. Vermont

5. Louisiana

6. Montana

7. Wyoming

8. Kentucky

9. Kansas

10. Oklahoma

That’s a lot of gun deaths from states that have some of the most relaxed gun laws in the union.

The states that rank the lowest in overall firearm deaths are (from 2001-2010):

50. Hawaii, 3.02 per 100,000

49. Massachusetts, 3.89

48. Rhode Island, 4.23

47. Connecticut, 5

46. New Jersey, 5.04

45. New York, 5.2

44. Iowa, 6.63

43. Minnesota, 6.67

42. New Hampshire, 6.73

41. Nebraska, 7.83

40. Maine, 8.01

Of the 10 states with the least amount of gun deaths, two are conservative states.

States that have the strictest gun laws (as of April 2013):

1. California

2. New Jersey

3. Massachusetts

4. Connecticut

5. Hawaii

6. New York

7. Maryland

8. Illinois

9. Rhode Island

10. Michigan

Notice an interesting correlation between the states that have the most relaxed gun laws and highest gun deaths/injuries per capita, and states that have the strictest gun laws and lowest gun deaths/injuries per capita.

How about our law enforcement officers (who carry guns)? States with the highest rate of law-enforcement agents feloniously killed with a firearm, 2002–2011 are listed in order: 1. South Dakota, 2. Louisiana, 3. Alaska, 4. Alabama, 5. South Carolina,             6. Montana, 7. Arizona, 8. Mississippi, 9. New Mexico and 10. Arkansas.

Nine out of the ten states that see more officers killed in the line of duty are in states that have the most relaxed gun laws.

You have a better chance of being killed, as an officer of the law, in South Dakota than you are in New York (ranked 38th), California (ranked 31st) and Illinois ( ranked 30th).

States that have the lowest rate of law-enforcement agents feloniously killed with a firearm, 2002-2011 are: Maine, Vermont , Wyoming, Nebraska, Connecticut, Iowa, Idaho, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Nevada.

The same conservatives who claim the gun isn’t the issue, but mental illness is, don’t seem to care when people who are suffering from depression or anger take their own lives via a gun. Maybe if those same conservatives put as much energy into combating and treating the mentally ill or suffering as they do fighting gun regulation, maybe we wouldn’t have as many suicides by guns. But until then, Firearm suicides, 2010 rates are as followed:

1. Alaska, 15.7 per 100,000

2. Wyoming, 14.73

3. Montana, 14.25

4. Idaho, 11.61

5. West Virginia, 11.33

6. Nevada, 10.7

7. Vermont, 10.55

8. Oklahoma, 10.22

9. Utah, 9.95

10. New Mexico, 9.91

The states with the least amount of suicide rates by firearms in 2010 (5oth-40th) were Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, California, Delaware, Minnesota.

One of the biggest talking points from the right was that women are much safer and much better off when gun regulation is at its lowest. However, the study proved that wrong also:

Firearm homicides among women, 2001–2010 (National average: 1.21 per 100,000 women):

1. Louisiana, 2.74 per 100,000 women

2. Mississippi, 2.5

3. Alabama, 2.39

4. South Carolina, 1.99

5. George, 1.78

6. Nevada, 1.77

7. Arkansas, 1.76

8. Tennessee 1.71 (Tennessee is also the most violent state)

9. Arizona, 1.67

10. North Carolina , 1.63

And finally we come to the children. Yes, the next generation of Americans who will be there to help clean up the mess created by the generations before them. Children should never, ever be cut out of life so prematurely. But sadly, 20 slain children in their classrooms in Newtown wasn’t enough for the gun-toting right to change their tune and enact legislation to keep this from happening again. Conservatives said “no way, Jose!” and more children died every day.

Most Firearm deaths among children, ages 0–17, 2001–20101:

1. Alaska, 5.58 per 100,000 children

2. Louisiana, 4.03

3. Montana, 3.31

4. New Mexico, 3.12

5. Mississippi, 3.06

6. Missouri, 2.9

7. Wyoming, 2.89

8. Alabama, 2.78

9. Arizona, 2.68

10. Arkansas, 2.67

The national average is 1.95 per 100,000 deaths.

Least Firearm deaths among children, ages 0–17, 2001–2010:

50. Hawaii (The CDC suppresses state-level counts and rates based on fewer than 10 deaths)

49. New Hampshire, 0.36 per 100,000 children

48. Massachusetts, 0.74

47. Connecticut, 0.76 (changed since Newtown)

46. Maine, 0.86

45. New Jersey, 0.95

44. Rhode Island, 1.01

43. Vermont, 1.02

42. New York, 1.15

41. Iowa, 1.22

40. Oregon, 1.27

Following the tragic mass shooting at Columbine High School in 1999, Colorado voters overwhelmingly approved a ballot measure to close the “gun-show loophole” by requiring background checks for firearm sales at gun shows. This legislative measure proved to be an effective means of reducing the prevalence of illegal gun trafficking in Colorado. Following this change in the law, the rate at which crime guns were exported fell dramatically – Colorado went from being 17th in the nation to 32nd after the requirement for increased background checks went into effect.

When they rolled back on their background checks for all gun sales in 2007, including private sales, the gun-murder rate in Missouri rose by nearly 25 percent, from an average of 4.6 gun murders for every 100,000 residents each year between 1999 and 2007 to an average of 5.7 gun murders for every 100,000 residents each year from 2008 to 2010.

Still want to trust the NRA and Republicans that background checks and tighter regulation does more harm?

Read the entire study here: http://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/AmericaUnderTheGun.pdf

by on Feb. 20, 2014 at 11:04 PM
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-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Feb. 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM
Interesting
BaronSamedi
by Bronze Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Yes I support being able to buy the gun of my choice unemcombered by regulations or restrictions.  No backgroud ckes as they are now written are unacceptable.  The gun rights people are correct.. 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Feb. 21, 2014 at 12:31 PM

More guns, in the hands of anyone, is not the answer.

Common sense is not so common.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Bogus - The Center for American PROGRESS - (a lib/prog organization) is slicing and dicing to make their numbers look better.

You need to look at total felony homicide rates - not homicides due to guns. Guns protect against many kinds of threats. If someone is killed by stabbing, they are no less dead than if by a gun. And you have to back out justified homicide. If it was in legal self defense, or legally by law enforcement, it is not a crime.

Why not use the violent crime rates? Murder. Rape. Assault. Robbery.  Highest in states with stricter gun laws.

The murder capital of the US? Illinois, a state with some of the strictest gun laws.  Or as libs would call it, "one of the good ones."

blueforewolf
by on Feb. 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM

thanks for the info at least we have some verifiable evidence (but you know the gun people will deny it)  - I kinda figured it out on my own too because well.... I Have a brain and it works!!!

BaronSamedi
by Bronze Member on Feb. 23, 2014 at 8:13 PM

The statistics are misleading.  Approx 50% or more are self  terminations.  Statistics can be lies.

Quoting blueforewolf:

thanks for the info at least we have some verifiable evidence (but you know the gun people will deny it)  - I kinda figured it out on my own too because well.... I Have a brain and it works!!!


Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Feb. 23, 2014 at 9:03 PM


Quoting BaronSamedi:

The statistics are misleading.  Approx 50% or more are self  terminations.  Statistics can be lies.

Quoting blueforewolf:

thanks for the info at least we have some verifiable evidence (but you know the gun people will deny it)  - I kinda figured it out on my own too because well.... I Have a brain and it works!!!


A gun death is a gun death.

Every gun death is a violent death.


Carpy
by Platinum Member on Feb. 24, 2014 at 5:57 AM

It also has Michigan listed as having some of the most strict gun laws.  Michigan greatly reduced their regulations a few years ago and has extremely high concealed carry rates.

Quoting SallyMJ:

Bogus - The Center for American PROGRESS - (a lib/prog organization) is slicing and dicing to make their numbers look better.

You need to look at total felony homicide rates - not homicides due to guns. Guns protect against many kinds of threats. If someone is killed by stabbing, they are no less dead than if by a gun. And you have to back out justified homicide. If it was in legal self defense, or legally by law enforcement, it is not a crime.

Why not use the violent crime rates? Murder. Rape. Assault. Robbery.  Highest in states with stricter gun laws.

The murder capital of the US? Illinois, a state with some of the strictest gun laws.  Or as libs would call it, "one of the good ones."


mjmorrison
by Member on Feb. 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

live by the sword, die by the sword

Quoting Sisteract:


Quoting BaronSamedi:

The statistics are misleading.  Approx 50% or more are self  terminations.  Statistics can be lies.

Quoting blueforewolf:

thanks for the info at least we have some verifiable evidence (but you know the gun people will deny it)  - I kinda figured it out on my own too because well.... I Have a brain and it works!!!


A gun death is a gun death.

Every gun death is a violent death.



SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Every death is a death. Someone killed via a blow to the head a la the Knockout Game is just as dead as someone shot by a gun.

Violent crime is violent crime. Go ask the UK, whose violent crime rate is 4 times higher than the US.

Even in the US, violent crimes using other weapons are higher than those with guns.

Inconvenient truths.

Quoting Sisteract:


Quoting BaronSamedi:

The statistics are misleading.  Approx 50% or more are self  terminations.  Statistics can be lies.

Quoting blueforewolf:

thanks for the info at least we have some verifiable evidence (but you know the gun people will deny it)  - I kinda figured it out on my own too because well.... I Have a brain and it works!!!


A gun death is a gun death.

Every gun death is a violent death.



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