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Volkswagen official threatens to block expansion if workers won't unionize

Posted by on Feb. 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM
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Volkswagen’s top labor representative threatened today to try to block further investments by the German carmaker in the U.S. South if its workers there are not unionized, Reuters reported today.

“I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the South again,” said Bernd Osterloh, a member of VW’s powerful supervisory board and head of VW’s works council.

“If co-determination isn’t guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor” of potentially building another plant in the U.S. South, said Osterloh, who was quoted in the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung.

Workers at VW’s factory in Chattanooga last Friday voted against representation by the United Auto Workers, rejecting efforts by VW representatives to set up a works council labor board at the plant.

Osterloh complained that “the conservatives stirred up massive antiunion sentiments.”

by on Feb. 20, 2014 at 11:20 PM
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-Celestial-
by Platinum Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 8:19 AM
Osterloh complained that “the conservatives stirred up massive antiunion sentiments.”
MotherOfPurpose
by Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Well they did and Corker's involvement stepped over the line(and could possibly be illegal) and it backfired ...this is a rare situation where the companies Values , line up with Unions/Work Councils values and in this particular company The Works Council has weight regarding decisions regarding expansion. While I think rejecting UAW representation specifically would have been ok..Not having a works councile labor board at the plant wasprobably a step too far..

YOU made your bed now lie in it!

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM

But I thought VW wanted the choice for or against unionization to be the workers' decision.

SallyMJ
by Ruby Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 12:00 PM
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And the union stirred up massive anti-choice sentiments.

So?

The workers made their choice.

Is VW going to punish them now for not making the "right" choice?

Quoting -Celestial-: Osterloh complained that “the conservatives stirred up massive antiunion sentiments.”


BaronSamedi
by Bronze Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 12:16 PM

 This is inaccurate.  The Germans do not have Unions as American understand them.  It is not an antagonistic relationship but a symbiotic one.  Many misunderstanding happen in cross cultural businesses.

   The relationship between worker and management is much different.  That is something that was not understood by either side.

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 9:43 PM
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 Is anything the op posts ever accurate?

Quoting BaronSamedi:

 This is inaccurate.  The Germans do not have Unions as American understand them.  It is not an antagonistic relationship but a symbiotic one.  Many misunderstanding happen in cross cultural businesses.

   The relationship between worker and management is much different.  That is something that was not understood by either side.

 

143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Feb. 21, 2014 at 9:45 PM
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"Osterloh complained that “the conservatives stirred up massive antiunion sentiments.”


RIIIIGGGHHHTTT, it has NOTHING to do with..idk..FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!?

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."---Thomas Jefferson

codfish
by Jen on Feb. 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM
VW was well aware when they chose TN that we are not a union state. They chose this state for the business friendly environment.

We have plenty of business here without worrying about them expanding.


Quoting -Celestial-: Osterloh complained that “the conservatives stirred up massive antiunion sentiments.”
codfish
by Jen on Feb. 22, 2014 at 9:09 AM
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We are not a pro-union state. VW was well aware of that when they built here.

No, we shouldn't have to have the UAW if we choose not to.


Quoting MotherOfPurpose:

Well they did and Corker's involvement stepped over the line(and could possibly be illegal) and it backfired ...this is a rare situation where the companies Values , line up with Unions/Work Councils values and in this particular company The Works Council has weight regarding decisions regarding expansion. While I think rejecting UAW representation specifically would have been ok..Not having a works councile labor board at the plant wasprobably a step too far..

YOU made your bed now lie in it!

BaronSamedi
by Bronze Member on Feb. 23, 2014 at 8:08 PM

  This was very badly done by everybody.  The German way is very different from the American.  Nobody seems to have understood the differences.  The Germans do not have unions as we understand them.

 LA times jan 20 2014 has an article on this.

Quoting codfish: We are not a pro-union state. VW was well aware of that when they built here.

No, we shouldn't have to have the UAW if we choose not to.


Quoting MotherOfPurpose:

Well they did and Corker's involvement stepped over the line(and could possibly be illegal) and it backfired ...this is a rare situation where the companies Values , line up with Unions/Work Councils values and in this particular company The Works Council has weight regarding decisions regarding expansion. While I think rejecting UAW representation specifically would have been ok..Not having a works councile labor board at the plant wasprobably a step too far..

YOU made your bed now lie in it!


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