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These 9 Maps Should Absolutely Outrage Southerners

Posted by on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:03 AM
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Look, there are lots of things to love about the South. It's clean and quiet. There's delicious food, good people and often amazing weather. But that's exactly why it makes us so sad to think about all the ways in which the region is struggling today.

First off, poverty rates are a lot higher in the South.

poverty map

Source: USDA

In fact, as many as one in four Southern kids lives in poverty, compared to the national average of one in five.

In the map above, red shading indicates a poverty rates between 17.9 and 22.8 percent. Orange indicates 15.9 to 17.8 percent; light orange, 12.2-15.8 percent; pale yellow, 9 to 12.1 percent. As you can see, there's a lot of high-poverty red in the South.

And minimum wages are much lower.

minimum wage
key

Source: Department Of Labor

Virtually no Southern states, with the exception of Florida, have a minimum wage higher than the federal floor of $7.25 an hour. Many Southern states do have relatively low living costs. But they are not dramatically lower than costs of living in other states, such as Ohio and Missouri, that have set minimum wages at least slightly higher than the national limit. The Southern states are doing the absolute minimum for their poorest citizens by keeping the minimum wage at the lowest levels possible.

And people living in the South are a lot less likely to move up the economic ladder.

mobility

Source: Equality Of Opportunity Project

If you want to achieve the American Dream, don't move to the South. That's because states in the South have extremely low levels of economic mobility. In the map above, pale yellow represents places with higher mobility, while red indicates low mobility.

Many living in poverty in the South are being denied access to affordable health care.

map 2

Source: Urban Institute

States that didn't choose to expand Medicaid under Obamacare are highlighted in lighter gray.

...which is costing these states a ton of money.

medicaid

Source: The Huffington Post

This map shows how much money the 19 states that rejected Medicaid expansion will lose by 2022 as a result of doing so (assuming all other states participate).

This is particularly troubling because the South has several health crises on its hands. Like obesity.

obesity

Source: CDC

Obesity rates are too high across the U.S. But they're particularly high in the South.

Southern states also have a higher percentage of cigarette smokers.

smokers

Source: The Huffington Post

Most Southern states have a higher percentage of smokers than anywhere else in the country. Incidentally, most Southern states have relatively low taxes on cigarettes.

And a much higher rate of teen births.

teen births

Source: Zara Matheson + Atlantic Cities

The map plots birth rates among women ages 15 to 19. In states shaded dark blue, there are more than 50 births per 1,000 teenage women.

Perhaps all this is why some Southern states are among the least happy states in the country.

happy map

Source: Gallup

That's according to Gallup's recent "State of American Well-Being" report, which surveyed thousands of Americans and ranked states based on an average of six measures: "life evaluation," emotional health, physical health, healthy behaviors, work environment and basic access to things like food, water and shelter.

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143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:08 AM
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Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:13 PM


Quoting 143myboys9496:

Is that what it looks like, when someone is rejecting evidence solely because they don't like the conclusion it points at?

jobseeker
by Bronze Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:24 PM

 So this is where I DON"T see all those people who argue that statistics can be skewed to say anything you want them to say

mikiemom
by Gold Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM

 So you don't think these maps are accurate?

 

Quoting jobseeker:

 So this is where I DON"T see all those people who argue that statistics can be skewed to say anything you want them to say

 

jobseeker
by Bronze Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

 I don't know if it is accurate, I notice that a couple were provided by Huff Post, some by gallup.  I don't know the impetus behind the publication of the maps.  I have no opinion

My comment is in answer to those who attack anyone who shares statistics  regarding a 'conservative' issue, (i.e. married parents, impact of divorce or absence of fathers in childrens lived, etc...)  There are many on CM that attempt to tear a new one on anyone who DARES put fort those stats with the argument that they don't mean anything.

Those same 'runny mouths' will likely support this poster applauding her for sharing this.

I can tell you, as a southern girl that not all southerners:

  1. live in poverty
  2. are subject to evil employers who exploit them via low wages
  3. are stuck in a rut with no chance of climbing the social ladder
  4. have no access to affordable healthcare
  5. are obese, smoking teen moms
  6. or are unhappy

These issues happen here, but if it were so bad, why wuold there be so many Californians, New Yorkers, Georgians, and Marylanders moving to Texas?  My evidence is the licence plates from those states parked in apartment complexes and employment offices here.

Quoting mikiemom:

 So you don't think these maps are accurate?

 

Quoting jobseeker:

 So this is where I DON"T see all those people who argue that statistics can be skewed to say anything you want them to say

 

 

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM


Quoting jobseeker:


I can tell you, as a southern girl that not all southerners:

  1. live in poverty
  2. are subject to evil employers who exploit them via low wages
  3. are stuck in a rut with no chance of climbing the social ladder
  4. have no access to affordable healthcare
  5. are obese, smoking teen moms
  6. or are unhappy

Definition: Average refers to the sum of numbers divided by n. Also called the mean average.

Example: what is the average of 2, 7 and 9?
Add the numbers: 2 + 7 + 9 = 18
Divide by how many numbers (i.e. we added 3 numbers): 18 ÷ 3 = 6
So the average is 6

mikiemom
by Gold Member on Mar. 7, 2014 at 2:09 PM

 These maps don't say that all southeners are any of the metrics used in these maps what these maps say is that there are higher rates in the south than anywhere else.

Quoting jobseeker:

 I don't know if it is accurate, I notice that a couple were provided by Huff Post, some by gallup.  I don't know the impetus behind the publication of the maps.  I have no opinion

My comment is in answer to those who attack anyone who shares statistics  regarding a 'conservative' issue, (i.e. married parents, impact of divorce or absence of fathers in childrens lived, etc...)  There are many on CM that attempt to tear a new one on anyone who DARES put fort those stats with the argument that they don't mean anything.

Those same 'runny mouths' will likely support this poster applauding her for sharing this.

I can tell you, as a southern girl that not all southerners:

  1. live in poverty
  2. are subject to evil employers who exploit them via low wages
  3. are stuck in a rut with no chance of climbing the social ladder
  4. have no access to affordable healthcare
  5. are obese, smoking teen moms
  6. or are unhappy

These issues happen here, but if it were so bad, why wuold there be so many Californians, New Yorkers, Georgians, and Marylanders moving to Texas?  My evidence is the licence plates from those states parked in apartment complexes and employment offices here.

Quoting mikiemom:

 So you don't think these maps are accurate?

 

Quoting jobseeker:

 So this is where I DON"T see all those people who argue that statistics can be skewed to say anything you want them to say

 

 

 

143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Mar. 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM


Quoting Clairwil:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

Is that what it looks like, when someone is rejecting evidence solely because they don't like the conclusion it points at?

(Most) everyone knows statistics can be skewed to support one's stand.

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Mar. 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM


Quoting 143myboys9496:

Quoting Clairwil:
Quoting 143myboys9496:

Is that what it looks like, when someone is rejecting evidence solely because they don't like the conclusion it points at?

(Most) everyone knows statistics can be skewed to support one's stand.

That's one of the reasons why they teach you mathematics at school - so you learn how to spot when statistics are being used incorrectly.

If you didn't pay attention in school, then I guess you'd be left not able to trust any statistics.

143myboys9496
by Gold Member on Mar. 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM


Quoting Clairwil:


Quoting 143myboys9496:

Quoting Clairwil:
Quoting 143myboys9496:

Is that what it looks like, when someone is rejecting evidence solely because they don't like the conclusion it points at?

(Most) everyone knows statistics can be skewed to support one's stand.

That's one of the reasons why they teach you mathematics at school - so you learn how to spot when statistics are being used incorrectly.

If you didn't pay attention in school, then I guess you'd be left not able to trust any statistics.

So because you posted it or believe the article, it's accurate? It's not that I don't trust statistics, I'm skeptical of them. 

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