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What do you feel should be done to make sure children aren't hurt by guns?

Posted by on Apr. 15, 2014 at 9:42 AM
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5-Year-Old Boy Fatally Shoots 7-Year-Old Girl at Birthday Party

by Lisa Fogarty

It's sad that my first thought here is: wow, I can't believe this happened AGAIN. But it has. A 5-year-old boy from South Carolina accidentally shot and killed a 7-year-old girl at a birthday party that took place over the weekend. The child had received permission from his mother to retrieve a toy gun from the trunk of their car. She reportedly didn't know her boyfriend's loaded real gun was also in the vehicle. The boy touched the trigger of the real gun while it was still in the trunk, according to reports, which caused it to fire a bullet that ripped through the car and hit little Juliet Lynch in the chest.

This horrific accident also resulted in the injury of a second child -- a 5-year-old boy who was hit in the arm by bullet fragments. Both children were rushed to the hospital and Juliet was declared dead shortly thereafter. The boy is expected to recover.

How absolutely senseless and horrific is this? A happy event turned into a nightmare in a matter of seconds and a mother lost her precious child all because of an adult who should have known better than to leave a loaded gun in a place that could be accessed by a child.

Incidents like these should make us gasp -- they shouldn't make us shake our heads and wonder where we've heard this before. But the truth is, we hear about young children messing around with loaded guns all too often.

Around this time last year, a 5-year-old boy shot and killed his 2-year-old sister with a rifle while his mother cleaned their house. And just a few weeks ago, an 8-year-old boy was killed by his brother, who got his hands on a loaded handgun that he thought was a BB gun.

So, what's the solution here? Do we ban toy guns and make it perfectly clear to children that weapons are not play things? I'm not entirely on board with that because I feel the actual problem here is with the adults in these situations who need to open their eyes and be more aware of the potential dangers associated with owning guns. A responsible gun owner does not leave a loaded gun anywhere within the reach of a child. Case closed.

What do you feel should be done to make sure children aren't hurt by guns?

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Ednarooni160
by Eds on Apr. 15, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Toy guns have been around for ever...I don't agree with banning them but I'm a big believer that if you can afford a gun, you should be able to afford "training" and have gun supplies such as a gun cabinet/locker..whatever.  Or have a locked drawer by your bed.  Some people don't have wonderful parents to teach in the art  of handling and/or safety of guns but I've noticed of late that many people are offering up their services as to handle guns by way of private and/or public free classes..and there are classes for gun handling that you can pay for and get a certificate..  That trunk should have been locked..period..and why a boyfriend would NOT tell his girlfriend that there was a loaded gun OR even an unloaded one there boggles my mind to begin with.  That (imo) was a freak accident as far as the bullet going through the car and hitting the girl..he didn't "point" the gun at the girl/kids.. 

Analeigh2012
by Silver Member on Apr. 15, 2014 at 10:42 AM

It does need to start with the parents but so many parents of today were not raised with the same gun sense as generations of the past.

I grew up around loaded guns.  There was always a loaded shot gun leaning in the corner of the dining room, just in case a fox or coon or coyote got into the animal pens.  We were taught from a very young age - guns are not toys.  We were not allowed to have water guns, bubble making guns, cap guns, toy guns.  We could not point our finger or a stick or anything at someone and say "bang".  Once we turned 11 we began a hunter's safety course that taught us about handling guns safely.  We began target practice with Dad.  

He taught us that guns have a purpose and to respect them.  Never was there even an incident of one of us touching the guns until we knew how to handle them.  I don't know what the solution is, but there is too many movies, TV shows, video games, arcade games, toys... that make playing with guns OK and killing people "fun".  That is just so wrong - that may be a place to start along with stricter sentences for irresponsible gun owners.



Ziva65
by Bronze Member on Apr. 15, 2014 at 10:54 AM

It's a very broad question based on a situation where the mom was simply stupid. Did she not know her boyfriend had guns, or kept them there? Maybe she needed to know her boyfriend better- seems odd to generalize to everyone "what should be done" because of some people's stupidity.

As for toy guns, i have no problem with them. I do think that every manufacturing precaution should be taken so they appear different, and are easily recognizable as a toy. The young man in california who sawed off the orange tip was responsible for the sad outcome, not the officers, particularly with the way he was acting. In the story above, who would in their right mind keep a loaded gun around kids...

Our kids all know how to shoot, I have no problem with guns in general, I'm not opposed to some restrictions though... and as always, know the people around you, know your neighbors, friends, kids' friends parents, etc... while it doesn't avert every problem at least it's a start.

 

 

BaronSamedi
by Bronze Member on Apr. 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Education and training.  Thsat has been done for hundres of years.  What has happened in the transition to an Urban  lifestyle is forgetting the valuable lessions of the past.   Children were taught early and often to day the parents are not as aware because perhaps they were never taught.

   

-Celestial-
by Platinum Member on Apr. 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM
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Tongue in cheek.


Give all kids guns after all it is their right. After a day or so there wont be any more kids to worry about




grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Apr. 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM
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 LMAO.  You must really hate living in Texas.  You hate guns and gun owners, you hate Christians, you hate conservatives and you hate Republicans.  That's probably the majority of Texans.

Why are you still living there?

Quoting -Celestial-:

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Tongue in cheek. Give all kids guns after all it is their right. After a day or so there wont be any more kids to worry about

 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Apr. 15, 2014 at 5:44 PM
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Agree, particularly stricter negligence penalties imposed...like termination of your right to own a gun.

Quoting -Celestial-:

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Tongue in cheek. Give all kids guns after all it is their right. After a day or so there wont be any more kids to worry about


blueforewolf
by on Apr. 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM
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I think the penalties for a child being killed by a gun in the house should be extremely severe -  where are the damn locks on these guns?  Why aren't these locks a little more complicated so that a child can't do them, like the safety covers on medicine?  If a child dies because you didn't put the lock on the gun then your ass should be in jail - and your right to own a gun taken away

Karmahappens
by Member on Apr. 16, 2014 at 6:12 AM
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Quoting blueforewolf:

I think the penalties for a child being killed by a gun in the house should be extremely severe -  where are the damn locks on these guns?  Why aren't these locks a little more complicated so that a child can't do them, like the safety covers on medicine?  If a child dies because you didn't put the lock on the gun then your ass should be in jail - and your right to own a gun taken away

 You can't make a trigger lock that can't be removed by a screwdriver. It is immaterial. You can NOT PUT a trigger lock on a loaded gun. So had this guy PUT a trigger lock on the gun (unloading it so it could be done safely) there woudln't have been an issue even IF the kid removed the lock.

And of course how can you legislate stupidity?  Leaving a gun in the trunk of a car isn't safe storage.  Not if anyone else has the key to that car.

Now you CAN legislate safe storage with criminal penalties for failure to do so.  Requiring a locked safe is one way to do it.  In this case, for example, if I had been the one with the gun-the car would have been locked with the key in my pocket-and the gun would have been unloaded with the clip in my pocket.

Ms.KitKat
by Gold Member on Apr. 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM

For starters. But also, when a gun is used improperly or fired due to neglect as in this case, then the gun owner needs to take responsibility and should face some criminal charges. Who seriously keeps a loaded gun in the trunk of their car? 

There needs to come a point in time when death due to negligent use/storage of guns is just not considered an "accident." When a driver drives drunk and kills/maims someone due to driving inebriated, yes, there was a car "accident" but it is also a crime. 

Quoting Sisteract:

Agree, particularly stricter negligence penalties imposed...like termination of your right to own a gun.

Quoting -Celestial-:

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Tongue in cheek. Give all kids guns after all it is their right. After a day or so there wont be any more kids to worry about


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