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Illegal Immigration is a Crime

Posted by on May. 10, 2014 at 8:52 AM
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Illegal Immigration is a Crime (2013)


Each year the Border Patrol apprehends hundreds of thousands of aliens who flagrantly violate our nation's laws by unlawfully crossing U.S. borders. Such illegal entry is a misdemeanor, and, if repeated after being deported, becomes punishable as a felony.

The illegal alien population is composed of those who illegally enter the country (referred to as "entry without inspection — EWI") in violation of the immigration law, and others enter legally and then sty illegally (referred to as overstayers). The immigration authorities currently estimate that two-thirds to three-fifths of all illegal immigrants are EWIs and the remainder is overstayers. Both types of illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: "Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable."

Illegal Immigration Is Not A Victimless Crime

Apologists for illegal immigration try to paint it as a victimless crime, but the fact is that illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population — the poor, minorities, and children.

Illegal immigration causes an enormous drain on public funds. The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the National Academy of Sciences found that the taxes paid by immigrants do not begin to cover the cost of services received by them.1 The quality of education, health care and other services for Americans are undermined by the needs of endless numbers of poor, unskilled illegal entrants.

Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants desperate for any job unfairly depresses the wages and working conditions offered to American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees.

Illegal Immigration And Population Growth

Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America — crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and increasing the strain on precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland. Until the recent economic recession and high unemployment, the immigration authorities estimated that the population of illegal aliens was increasing by an estimated half million people annually.  

Illegal Immigration Undermines National Security

While most illegal immigrants may come only to seek work and a better economic opportunity, their presence outside the law furnishes an opportunity for terrorists to blend into the same shadows while they target the American public for their terrorist crimes. Some people advocate giving illegal aliens legal status to bring them out of the shadows, but, if we accommodate illegal immigration by offering legal status, this will be seen abroad as a message that we condone illegal immigration, and we will forever be faced with the problem.

Border Patrol: Necessary But Not Sufficient

The Border Patrol plays a crucial role in combating illegal immigration, but illegal immigration cannot be controlled solely at the border. The overstayers as well as the EWIs who get past the Border Patrol must be identified and removed by the interior immigration inspectors of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Today, the policies of the Obama administration are working at cross purposes to this objective. ICE is constrained from detaining and deporting most illegal aliens they encounter with the exception of those with criminal convictions or threats to the national security.

What Can Be Done?

There must be a comprehensive effort to end illegal immigration. That requires ensuring that illegal aliens will not be able to obtain employment, public assistance benefits, public education, public housing, or any other taxpayer-funded benefit without detection.

The three major components of immigration control — deterrence, apprehension and removal — need to be strengthened by Congress and the Executive Branch if effective control is ever to be reestablished. Controlling illegal immigration requires a balanced approach with a full range of enforcement improvements that go far beyond the border. These include many procedural reforms, beefed up investigation capacity, asylum reform, documents improvements, major improvements in detention and deportation procedures, limitations on judicial review, improved intelligence capacity, greatly improved state/federal cooperation, and added resources.

What About The Costs?

Effective control and management of the laws against illegal immigration require adequate resources. But those costs will be more than offset by savings to states, counties, communities, and school districts across the nation.

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by on May. 10, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Once again your need to control comes out.


by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM

It is illegal. But it's also a lot more complicated than this article points out. Yes, we can make laws similar to the one's in Fremont Nebraska that attempt to limit housing, etc to illegal immigrants. Where this has largely gone, however, is not so easy. There have been numerous reports by actual citizens of Mexican descent that they've been shouted at to "go home", generally harrassed and even assaulted since the bill became law there. 

Also, we need to see that industrialized agriculture will stand in the way of significant reform- particularly of the variety that doesn't allow immigrants in at all. They want an illegal base so that they have a pool of people they can use and pay very little.

And being humane would be nice. Don't send people away from their children. Come to grips with the fact that WE ALL RELY ON IMMIGRANT LABOR. 

by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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So is this "crime" a felony, misdemeanor, or an infraction?

As stated earlier, the problem is far more complicated than just, "They're criminals."

Donna -- my position on this issue isn't based on me being an "anchor wife."
by Bronze Member on May. 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM
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I agree that it is a crime and has more of a negative impact on the system (not just taxes v benefits, but the whole economic system) then people would like to acknowledge. I DO think the immigration process should be more helpful, though. Maybe more affordable, too. And employers need to be held more accountable as well.
by on May. 10, 2014 at 11:06 AM
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Yes, I agree. Illegal immigration is a crime. I don't have a problem with immigrants coming over the right way and contributing. But the ones that don't bleed us and that's another reason America is in so much trouble today.
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by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM
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Here is another major problem:


President Obama’s Department of Homeland Security caught then released 68,000 aliens who had previously been convicted of a crime, a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies shows.

The report, provided to Breitbart News ahead of its late Sunday evening release, reviews internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) metrics to conclude that the Obama administration released 35 percent—or 68,000—convicted criminal aliens back into the U.S. general population when they could have been deported. “The criminal alien releases typically occur without formal notice to local law enforcement agencies and victims,” CIS’s Jessica Vaughan, the report’s author, added.

By “criminal,” ICE means people who have been convicted of a misdemeanor or felony that is not a traffic violation. For instance, traffic violations like Driving Under the Influence of Alcohol or even vehicular manslaughter do not count toward this description of “criminal alien.” As for the definition of “alien,” ICE mostly means illegal aliens, though some are legal aliens when they are considered deportable legal aliens—which is possible for legal immigrants who have committed a serious crime, like a felony.

The documents also show ICE only deported a small fraction of the aliens they encountered overall.

“In 2013, ICE targeted only 195,000, or 25 percent, out of 722,000 potentially deportable aliens they encountered,” CIS’s Vaughan wrote. “Most of these aliens came to ICE’s attention after incarceration for a local arrest.”

This report comes out on the heels of a report from the office of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) last week which found that only .08 percent of the aliens deported in 2013 were not serial immigration law violators or convicted of serious crimes.

In response to these findings from CIS that follow up on his office’s report last week, Sessions said immigration law in America has essentially ceased to exist.

“The preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that immigration enforcement in America has collapsed,” Sessions said. “Even those with criminal convictions are being released. DHS is a department in crisis. Secretary [Jeh] Johnson must reject the President’s demands to weaken enforcement further and tell him that his duty, and his officers’ duty, is to enforce the law – not break it. As Homeland Secretary, Mr. Johnson is tasked with ensuring the public safety and the rule of law. But Secretary Johnson is not meeting these duties.”

The CIS report also contains a breakdown per city of percentages of criminal aliens who were released back into the population. San Antonio’s 79 percent is the highest, where ICE encountered 36,228 criminal aliens and released 28,680 back into the general population in 2013. New York City’s 71 percent is next, where ICE agents encountered 7,571 criminal aliens and released 5,391 of them. Washington, D.C. follows that, with ICE agents encountering 8,688 criminal aliens and releasing 64 percent, or 5,558, of them into the public. Other cities with high percentages include Salt Lake City, Houston, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Newark, and Buffalo. Notably, many of these cities are not in border states, which means visa overstays and illegal aliens who crossed the border but migrated further inward are as much a problem as the actual U.S.-Mexico border in terms of stopping the flow and enforcing the law.

“These findings raise further alarm over the Obama administration’s pending review of deportation practices, which reportedly may further expand the administration’s abuse of ‘prosecutorial discretion,’” CIS’s Vaughan wrote. “Interior enforcement activity has already declined 40 percent since the imposition of “prosecutorial discretion” policies in 2011. Rather than accelerating this decline, there is an urgent need to review and reverse the public safety and fiscal harm cause by the president’s policies.”

Sessions echoed Vaughan’s concerns, saying the lack of enforcement for immigration laws further hurts the ability of American citizens to obtain employment.

“American citizens have a legal and moral right to the protections our immigration laws afford – at the border, the interior and the workplace,” Sessions said. “The administration has stripped these protections and adopted a government policy that encourages new arrivals to enter illegally or overstay visas by advertising immunity from future enforcement.  Comments from top Administration officials, such as Attorney General Holder’s claim that amnesty is a civil right, or Vice President Biden’s claim that those here illegally are all US citizens (apparently including someone whose visa expired yesterday), demonstrate the administration’s increasing belief in an open borders policy the American public has always rejected."

by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Here are even MORE reasons why illegals (criminals) should be deported and the boarders should be closed.

I have seen the illegals (criminals) in court laughing the entire time after raping a young girl.  Even my young daughter thought his laughing was terrible and it's  awful that taxpayers had to pay for a translater.

Yes, I realize not all illegal criminals are this bad, but this is a HUGE list, so the link in included.  


Examples of Serious Crimes of Illegal Aliens

The information below is taken from news sources. The aliens in these reports were all identified as being in the country illegally, and many of them had come into the hands of law enforcement agencies prior to the crime that is described below, but the alien was not deported or in some cases was deported but reentered the country.

These cases are listed as a demonstration that better prevention of illegal immigration is a public safety issue even though these cases are not representative of the illegal alien population in general. These cases refer to crimes other than terrorism.

  • February 2014 — Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros, an illegal alien from Mexico, was found guilty of two counts of a felony for failure to perform the duties of a driver and sentenced to three years of probation and 250 hours of community service.  Garcia-Cisneros committed a hit-and-run that resulted in the death of two stepsisters, 6-year-old Anna Dieter-Eckerdt and 11-year-old Abigail Robinson.  (Associated Press, Feb. 4, 2013)
  • January 2014 — Jasim Mohammed Hasin Ramadon, aka Jay Hendrix, an Iraqi immigrant, was found guilty in Colorado on multiple counts of sexual assault. He faces a possible sentence of life in prison. Sarmad Fadhi "Levi" Mohammed, another Iraqi was earlier convicted for the same assault and sentenced to 16 years in prison. An additional three Iraqi immigrants involved in the assault have received misdemeanor convictions. (Colorado Gazette, January 21, 2014) 
  • January 2014 — Modesto Osco, a Peruvian, pled guilty to indecent assault on a minor. He was sentenced in Pennsylvania to five months to two years in prison. (The Morning Call, January 6, 2014)
  • December 2013 — A Mexican illegal alien, Francisco Leon-Urbalexo, pled guilty in California to attempted second-degree murder and was sentenced to nine years in state prison. (Santa Monica Daily Press, December 17, 2013)
  • December 2013 — Jose Luis Ramirez-Dorantes, a Mexican illegal alien was sentenced in California to 55 years in prison for the murder-robbery of Border Patrol officer Robert Rosas, Jr. Ramirez had been arrested on alien smuggling charges, but was free on supervised release at the time he joined four others in 2009 in an attempted robbery of Rosas' night vision goggles that resulted in his shooting death. (Breibart News, December 29, 2013)
  • December 2013 — Joel Monfort, a Haitian illegal alien, was deported. He was convicted of second-degree assault and sex offense in Salisbury, Maryland and was sentenced to 12 months in prison in 2001. In 2004, he was again convicted of second-degree assault for sexually assaulting a motorcycle accident victim he was providing nursing aid and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. (The Star Democrat, December 18, 2013)
  • December 2013 — Two British citizens, Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan, pled guilty in Connecticut to conspiring to provide and providing material support, including funds, personnel and physical items, to terrorists. Ahmad and Ahsan face up to 25 years and 15 years in prison, respectively. (ICE Press Release, December 10, 2013)
  • December 2013 — Carlos Hidalgo, a Mexican illegal alien, was convicted of felony grand theft in April 2013. Between 2001 and 2011, Hidalgo was convicted of two DUI offenses. He is in prison in Adelanto, California. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)
  • December 2013 — Artyom Karapetyan, an Armenian immigrant, was convicted of felony battery against a custodial officer and imprisoned at Adelanto, California. He was transferred to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department in August because of an outstanding criminal warrant. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)

  • December 2013 — Jose Santos Maltez, a Nicaraguan illegal alien, is imprisoned in Adelanto, California federal penitentiary for conviction on a drug charge. (The Press-Enterprise, December 2, 2013)
by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 12:21 PM

...Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.

“This sounds like the kind of law that a rational nation would have to protect itself against illegal immigrants — that would stop and punish the very people who are violating the law”....

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/03/mexicos-illegals-laws-tougher-than-arizonas/#ixzz31KXKskuL 
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by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Treat Illegals the Way Mexico Treats Americans

Millions of Mexicans and other Hispanics commit felonies by entering the United States illegally.  Then they start demanding rights that they shouldn’t get.  They get medical coverage, are allowed to send their kids to public schools to get an education and they take jobs away from US citizens.  There have been numerous incidences of illegals collecting unemployment benefits, social security disability and food stamps, all at taxpayer expense.

When law enforcement officers try to enforce immigration laws and arrest illegals, they protest and claim racial profiling and even file lawsuits against those trying to carry out US laws.

ut what happens when an American attempts to legally cross into Mexico and abide by all of the laws of the US and Mexico?

In the case of former US Marine Jon Hammar, you get arrested and sent to prison in one of the worst areas of Mexico.

While serving in the Marines, Hammar found himself in Falluja, Iraq.  His close friend serving with him was shot and killed by a sniper.  It greatly affected Hammar who was later diagnosed as suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.  He was treated for PTSD at a veterans center in California and upon completion of his treatment, he was released.

Hammar and friend then planned a trip to Costa Rica to go surfing.  They pooled their money and bought an old used Winnebago to drive from their home, through Mexico and down to Costa Rica.  Among the items that Hammar packed was a vintage Sears & Roebuck shotgun that had belonged to his great-grandfather.  When they arrived at the US-Mexico border, he registered the shotgun with US Customs and Border Protection officials.  He inquired about the legality of taking the shotgun over the border and was told that it was okay.

When he crossed over the border into Matamoros, Mexico, he followed the instructions that had been given to him and attempted to register the shotgun with Mexican authorities.  However, he was immediately arrested and charged with the possession of a deadly weapon.

It turns out that there is an archaic law on the Mexican books that states that shotguns must have a barrel length of 25 inches or longer.  Hammar’s heirloom shotgun has a barrel length of only 24 inches.  If convicted in a Mexican court, Hammar could be sentenced up to 12 years in prison.

His parents have been working with the US Embassy in Mexico, but so far Hammar remains in jail which is proving to be as dangerous, if not more so than Iraq.  The prison Hammar is currently being held at is basically run by the drug cartels.  They have made threats against his life and extortion demands from him and his family.  There have been times that Hammar has been shackled to his bed and his parents fear for his life.

If this is the way Americans are going to be treated by Mexican authorities, especially when the American is trying to do things legally, then I say it’s time to round up every illegal Mexican in the country and imprison them for breaking our federal laws.  We treat their illegals better than we treat many of our own citizens and they treat our legals worse than our worse prisons.

Like I’ve said time and again, bring our troops home and station them along the entire US-Mexico border.  It’s time to secure our own borders instead of those of other nations.  And If Obama doesn’t like it, he should be treated like every other illegal alien and arrested and thrown into a prison cell with several others just like him.

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/8551/treat-illegals-the-way-mexico-treats-americans/#Bw0qkwJzOLTBcO7J.99

by Gold Member on May. 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM

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