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Al Qaeda terrorists at Guantanamo treated better than our vets

Posted by on May. 23, 2014 at 8:45 AM
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President Obama finally addressed the nation Wednesday about the growing scandal at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. After meeting with VA Secretary Eric Shinseki he pledged to hold folks accountable.

Thanks, Mr. President.

 By now most American have heard about the VA's infamous patient "secret wait lists" which reportedly contributed to the deaths of up to 40 veterans in the Phoenix area alone. Those patriots were American heroes who served our country proudly. Yet they were left to die waiting to see a doctor.   

While the Gitmo ratio is 1.5 to 1, for America's 9 million veterans receiving VA health care and 267,930 VA employees, the ratio is 35 to 1.

Here's another secret the White House doesn't want you to know about the VA. Al Qaeda detainees get better medical treatment than our veterans.

Say what?

Yes, it's true. I know because I served as a Pentagon spokesman from 2005-2009 and visited Guantanamo Bay Naval Base over 30 times during those years.

Despite the fact that Al Qaeda terrorists carried out the Sept. 11 terror attacks, killing 3,000 people in America, the admitted co-conspirators and their roughly 150 fellow jihadists at Gitmo have approximately 100 doctors, nurses and health care personnel assigned to them.

Doctors and medical personnel are at their beck and call.  Got a cold, a fever, a toothache, a tumor, chest or back pain, mental health issues, PTSD?  No problem, come right on in. Military doctors are waiting to see you.

The VA and Gitmo eligible patient-to-health care provider ratios speak volumes.

While the Gitmo ratio is 1.5 to 1, for America's 9 million veterans receiving VA health care and 267,930 VA employees, the ratio is 35 to 1.

But beyond the Gitmo numbers, the situation at the VA is also a bright, shining example of misguided priorities and terrible mismanagement.

In late 2008, when Obama was  president-elect, he and his staff were warned not to trust the wait times reported by VA health care facilities. But instead of fixing the problem, their focus was closing Guantanamo and improving the comfort of detainees. Even though they already lived under some of the best prison conditions ever seen.

While some who see "2008" may reflexively say, "blame Bush, not Obama" the fact is that the VA's health system has been fatally flawed for years, regardless of who has been the president.

The VA is a classic example of big government gone wild. It is America's second largest cabinet agency after the Defense Department. Since civil service promotions are traditionally based more on seniority than performance, and it's near impossible to fire anyone, there's a punch-the-clock mentality that's pervasive. Not surprisingly, there's little to no sense of urgency. So to instill incentives, the VA shells out high salaries and bonuses, deserved or not.

According to a Fox News report, Phoenix VA hospital paid staff up to $357,000 for doctor executives and $147,000 for nursing staff.  On average, doctors and nurses in Phoenix make just over half those figures.

Meanwhile, the gardening budget at Phoenix VA hospital was over $180,000 in 2013. The facility also spent $211,000 on interior design over the past three years.

If any government entity ever needed a complete overhaul, it's the VA.  If it were in the private sector, it would have been shuttered long ago.

Today's VA has near zero accountability, while labor unions fight to protect employees who aren't doing their jobs. Shinseki and his senior staff should be the first to go.

 President Obama needs to refocus his priorities. There must be less time, effort and energy caring for Al Qaeda and Taliban detainees at Gitmo and much more attention put on caring for America's veterans. 

Our veterans have served the nation proudly. In many cases they were gravely wounded during their service and now will require a lifetime of medical support. Every one of them deserves better.

 

J.D. Gordon is a retired Navy Commander who served as a Pentagon spokesman in the Office of the Secretary of Defense from 2005-09. He serves as senior adviser to several Washington-based think tanks.

 

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Ednarooni160
by Eds on May. 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM
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We're not downsizing Guantonamo..just the military...we are trying to give the detainees in Guantonamo (sp) comfort...big difference..

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on May. 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM

By now most American have heard about the VA's infamous patient "secret wait lists" which reportedly contributed to the deaths of up to 40 veterans in the Phoenix area alone. Those patriots were American heroes who served our country proudly. Yet they were left to die waiting to see a doctor.   

While the Gitmo ratio is 1.5 to 1, for America's 9 million veterans receiving VA health care and 267,930 VA employees, the ratio is 35 to 1.

Here's another secret the White House doesn't want you to know about the VA. Al Qaeda detainees get better medical treatment than our veterans.

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on May. 23, 2014 at 9:03 AM
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 By now most American's have heard about the VA's infamous patient "secret wait lists

- sadly most of the Main stream Media watchers probably think that means the Koch brothers have put up a toll collections booth going into the tunnel on I77 in VA and if you are a big donor you get special treatment.

Ednarooni160
by Eds on May. 23, 2014 at 9:08 AM
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Maybe the VA was the test grounds for Obama care..

numbr1wmn
by Nikki on May. 23, 2014 at 9:47 AM
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Of course. We have our own military man being held captive in Mexico and Odummer has done NOTHING

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on May. 23, 2014 at 10:19 AM
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 They promoted the fabulous VA system as the model.

Quoting Ednarooni160:

Maybe the VA was the test grounds for Obama care..

 

blondekosmic15
by Blonde on May. 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM
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Quoting Ednarooni160:

Maybe the VA was the test grounds for Obama care..


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Debrowsky
by Silver Member on May. 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM
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The VA is a classic example of big government gone wild.

This right here should give us a warning that government run healthcare will end up the same way. 

jcribb16
by Primrose Foxglove on May. 23, 2014 at 9:58 PM
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You are right.  And many know and agree that this administration has made it very obvious that it does not respect our military, and is doing all it can to have the government take as much control over the people, as possible, before the end of O's term.

Quoting Debrowsky:

The VA is a classic example of big government gone wild.This right here should give us a warning that government run healthcare will end up the same way. 


1stmuslimah
by Silver Member on May. 23, 2014 at 10:30 PM

 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

Of course. We have our own military man being held captive in Mexico and Odummer has done NOTHING

 He's not being held "captive" . He is there for "accidentally" breaking the law as they all always "accidentally" step over a border ... last year they "accidentally" crossed over the Iranian border, the year before they "accidentally" crossed from S.Korea into N Korea. It's always an 'accident" and that blue pass port always bails them out as if they are above the law.

 Except this time it was a loony toon with a trunk full of weapons on his way to "treatment" in which being a loony toon should have disqualified him from having that trunk full of weapons so he didn't go postal and shoot up a theater or a mall and blame it on "Post Trauma Stress Disorder" and get a free pass from being charged as a terrorist due to being a loony toon.

He was so bat shit crazy that he couldn't even opperate a vehicle on his way to the looney bin with out "accidently" crossing a border but he had a trunk full of weapons ?

 




 



 


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