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'Friendly fire' kills five American service members in Afghanistan

Posted by on Jun. 10, 2014 at 8:39 AM
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Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Five American service members were killed in southern Afghanistan when a coalition jet called in to help ward off a Taliban attack mistakenly bombed them, an Afghan official said Tuesday.

The five were killed along with an Afghan soldier in Zabul province, said Ghulam Sakhi Roghliwanai, the province's police chief.

According to NATO, the troops were conducting a security operation. Such operations have been stepped up ahead of Afghanistan's presidential runoff election, which will take place Saturday.

The service members' unit came in contact with enemy forces. That's when the casualties occurred, a U.S. military official told CNN. "There is the possibility that fratricide may have been involved," he said. The incident is under investigation.

A NATO statement provided similar information.

Roghliwanai said the troops had completed their joint military sweep at about 9 p.m. Monday (12:30 p.m. ET) when they came under rocket fire from Taliban militants.

The service members called in air support. "But the airstrike mistakenly bombed their own friends too," he said.

While fratricide is the crime of murdering one's brother or sister, the military uses the term to refer to "friendly fire" incidents -- troops killing or injuring their allies or comrades.

Friendly fire incidents

Since the Afghan war began in October 2001, 2,323 Americans have died there. Once the United States confirms these latest deaths, the number will rise to 2,328.

Also since the beginning of the war, there have been numerous fatalities resulting from friendly fire.

Among the more publicized ones was the 2004 death of Pat Tillman. Tillman, who became a national hero after he gave up a lucrative contract with the NFL's Arizona Cardinals to join the Army's elite Rangers force, was awarded the Silver Star, the military's third-highest combat decoration, after the Army said he was killed leading a counterattack.

Only later did the Army admit he had been shot accidentally by his comrades.

Here are some of the others:

• In April 2002, four Canadian troops were killed and eight others seriously wounded when a U.S. Air National Guard pilot dropped a 500-pound bomb on a group of Canadian soldiers conducting a nighttime training exercise in southern Afghanistan.

• In August 2007, three British soldiers were killed when a U.S. Air Force F-15 Eagle mistakenly struck their position with a 500-pound bomb during a firefight with Taliban fighters in northern Helmand province.

• In July 2008, nine British soldiers were wounded when a UK Apache attack helicopter mistakenly fired on them during a firefight with Taliban fighters in central Afghanistan.

• In November 2011, NATO helicopters attacked a military checkpoint in northwest Pakistan, killing 24 Pakistani soldiers. The attack wounded 13 others in the volatile region bordering Afghanistan. The incident greatly strained relations between the nations.

Other developments

The Taliban abducted a busload of students and lecturers from Kandahar University as they traveled to the capital, Kabul, on Tuesday, said Mohammad Ali Ahmadi, the deputy governor of Ghazni province.

The exact number of passengers on the bus was not immediately known.

Negotiations were underway to find the passengers and free them, Ahmadi said.

CNN's Masoud Popalzai reported from Kabul; Ed Payne reported and wrote from Atlanta. CNN's Ric Ward and Gabe LaMonica contributed to this report.

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mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide

Ms.KitKat
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Can you please explain to me the difference between friendly fire and fratricide?

It seems like the same exact thing to me.

Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide


mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM
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 Friendly fire is accidental meaning that they didn't intend to murder their fellow soldiers. Fratricide the murder was deliberate and intentional. In addition sometimes fratricide is claimed when their is a cover-up following the deaths such as the Tillman case.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

Can you please explain to me the difference between friendly fire and fratricide?

It seems like the same exact thing to me.

Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide

 

Ms.KitKat
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM

oh ok. 

I would think there have been cases of fratricide masked as friendly fire because really, how can one really know the difference unless there is at least 1 very brave soldier willing to speak up. kwim? and seriously how many soldiers would be willing to do that???!!

Quoting mikiemom:

 Friendly fire is accidental meaning that they didn't intend to murder their fellow soldiers. Fratricide the murder was deliberate and intentional. In addition sometimes fratricide is claimed when their is a cover-up following the deaths such as the Tillman case.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

Can you please explain to me the difference between friendly fire and fratricide?

It seems like the same exact thing to me.

Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide



mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM
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 You would be surprised, but there are some willing to go against the group think and turn their battle buddy in for crimes. It is said that Bergdahl had made complaints about the murder of civilians while in Afghanistan and that is why his battle buddies are treating him the way they are.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

oh ok. 

I would think there have been cases of fratricide masked as friendly fire because really, how can one really know the difference unless there is at least 1 very brave soldier willing to speak up. kwim? and seriously how many soldiers would be willing to do that???!!

Quoting mikiemom:

 Friendly fire is accidental meaning that they didn't intend to murder their fellow soldiers. Fratricide the murder was deliberate and intentional. In addition sometimes fratricide is claimed when their is a cover-up following the deaths such as the Tillman case.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

Can you please explain to me the difference between friendly fire and fratricide?

It seems like the same exact thing to me.

Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide

 

 

Ms.KitKat
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Huh. That would take a very strong soldier. And yes, I can understand then why Bergdahl would be villified. I hope the truth comes out.  

Quoting mikiemom:

 You would be surprised, but there are some willing to go against the group think and turn their battle buddy in for crimes. It is said that Bergdahl had made complaints about the murder of civilians while in Afghanistan and that is why his battle buddies are treating him the way they are.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

oh ok. 

I would think there have been cases of fratricide masked as friendly fire because really, how can one really know the difference unless there is at least 1 very brave soldier willing to speak up. kwim? and seriously how many soldiers would be willing to do that???!!

Quoting mikiemom:

 Friendly fire is accidental meaning that they didn't intend to murder their fellow soldiers. Fratricide the murder was deliberate and intentional. In addition sometimes fratricide is claimed when their is a cover-up following the deaths such as the Tillman case.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

Can you please explain to me the difference between friendly fire and fratricide?

It seems like the same exact thing to me.

Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide




Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 1:15 PM
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There are no coincidences in the world - things happen because something or someone causes them to happen.

Wouldn't shock me a bit if Obama (being pissed that he is getting wide spread criticism from the military) was walking around the White House yelling at his minions about how dare they disrespect him.

I can see him saying - be a damn shame if something bad happened to some of the little bastards, but it would show them we can get them anytime.

Off goes the minion - freindly fire accident to follow.

cfcf
by Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM
I think they are using the term interchangeably with friendly fire. At least that's how I read it.

"While fratricide is the crime of murdering one's brother or sister, the military uses the term to refer to "friendly fire" incidents -- troops killing or injuring their allies"


Quoting mikiemom:

Friendly fire has been an unfortunate happening in every conflict ever. The troublesome news is that they suspect fratricide

mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 2:14 PM

There are different consequences for the two terms. Friendly fire while horrific will be investigated and fault applied or not to the individuals involved. Fratricide means that the friendly fire was intentional, it is also used for issues involving negligence, I am being told.

mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jun. 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM
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 does your mother know you are smoking crack in her basement. Get with it man, kids these days know that crack is wack. - or is it Meth billy - how are your teeth?

Quoting Billiejeens:

There are no coincidences in the world - things happen because something or someone causes them to happen.

Wouldn't shock me a bit if Obama (being pissed that he is getting wide spread criticism from the military) was walking around the White House yelling at his minions about how dare they disrespect him.

I can see him saying - be a damn shame if something bad happened to some of the little bastards, but it would show them we can get them anytime.

Off goes the minion - freindly fire accident to follow.

 

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