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WMD’S IN IRAQ: Terrorists Seize Saddam’s Chemical Weapons, Mustard Gas, Sarin & VX

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Let’s see, after we went through Iraq with a fine tooth comb for years and found nada of Hussein’s cache of WMDs, these ISIS loons supposedly find them?  I don’t know if I’m buying this.  Anyway, check it out.  What are your thoughts about this shocking report?

ISIS terrorists have seized Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons stockpile at the Al Muthanna facility.

The weapons include: mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun and VX.

The Telegraph reported:

Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.

Here is the CIA’s file on the complex.


 

Quote Stockpiles of chemical munitions are still stored there. The most dangerous ones have been declared to the UN and are sealed in bunkers.

Although declared, the bunkers contents have yet to be confirmed.


 
by on Jun. 21, 2014 at 7:58 AM
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momof31995
by Bronze Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 11:42 AM

So why is it even news that ISIS now has control of them if they are no longer weapons grade?

TappyToes
by Bronze Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 12:24 PM


Quoting momof31995:

So why is it even news that ISIS now has control of them if they are no longer weapons grade?

It isn't.  

This is just another symptom of ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) by some posters. 

devil

-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Jun. 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM

It's true they seized an abandoned facility. But do not access to any elements. Facility was used for that prior use. They may just set up camp.

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Quoting rocketracer:

ISIS now has chemical weapons.. .BO may just celebrate by releasing more detainees from detention facilities....



Clearly they will need manpower to move them around.

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM
Quoting TappyToes:

Quoting mommy_2_be_2010: Oh sh** if this is true we are screwed

Read Clairwill's postings.



Clair is a Man Made Climate Change Hoaxers.

She plays no other role here.



GrannyM.
by Bronze Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 2:30 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/22/iraq-qaeda-sunni-syria/11232403/

I think we should just let the various Iraqi groups fight it out and deal with who ever is left standing...

TappyToes
by Bronze Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM


Quoting Billiejeens:

Clair is a Man Made Climate Change Hoaxers. She plays no other role here.

Isn't this a Terms of Service violation ?

Billiejeens
by Ruby Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 5:34 PM
Quoting TappyToes:

Quoting Billiejeens:


Clair is a Man Made Climate Change Hoaxers.

She plays no other role here.



Isn't this a Terms of Service violation ?



In what way?

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Jun. 23, 2014 at 5:12 AM

 No she wasn't misinformed.  I would say you hold that title.

Iraq Chemical Weapons Moved to Syria Before 2003 Invasion?

July 2012
 

James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence in the Obama Administration, thought so.

From the Daily Beast:

Whether or not sensitive weapons technology was moved to Syria is a hotly disputed question in the intelligence community. James Clapper, now the Director of National Intelligence and formerly the director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, said in 2003 that he believed materials had been moved out of Iraq in the months before the war and cited satellite imagery.

If the Bashar al-Assad regime falls, and should the securing of the chemical and biological stockpiles of Syria be necessary, what would be the effect if some of those materials and munitions bear Iraqi markings?

Former Iraqi General Sada asserted that Saddam’s chemical stockpile was lifted, in his book “Saddam’s Secrets” and summarized by Investor’s Business Daily:

As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.

There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.

The IBD article also mentions Israeli General Yaalon’s assertions, and those of John Shaw regarding Russian assistance in the form of former KGB General Primakov:

There were also truck convoys into Syria. Sada’s comments came more than a month after Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.”

Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in 2006.

According to Shaw, ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December 2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

Anticipating the invasion, his job was to supervise the removal of such weapons and erase as much evidence of Russian involvement as possible.

An interesting statement from Brian Sayers, the director of government relations for the Syria Support Group:

We believe that if the United States does not act urgently, there is a real risk of a political vacuum in Syria, including the possibility of a dispersion of chemical weapons to rogue groups such as Hezbollah.”

What of a regime such as Saddam Hussein’s in Iraq that was suspected of actively attempting to peddle such weapons?

Should these suspicions surrounding Iraq’s possible pre-invasion transfer of its remaining chemical stockpile be confirmed, the silence being heard in the media regarding them will have been deafening.

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Just in case folks still wanted to debate the existence of Syria’s stockpile, I think we might have our answer. How many carry Iraqi markings? How many, Russian?

 
 
Quoting TappyToes:

 

Quoting blondekosmic15:

The reason international inspectors didn't locate WMDs shortly before the Iraq war March 19, 2003 is because Saddam systematically moved his chemical weapons to deceive inspectors. Compile of weapons were secretly hidden beneath swimming pools to preserve for future use against Saddam's enemies because the ground is cool. A safe environment for chemical weapons. Immediately before the war Saddam ordered the WMDs to be transported to Syria and Lebanon via planes and trucks when he realized America was coming. I'm not surprised a facility has been located with chemical weapons in Iraq. I read reports Saddam was strategically planning to hit Israel with these weapons if the United States had not gone to war with the Iraq regime. I'm thankful this brutal tyrant and his 2 diabolical sons Uday & Qusay are gone....

You are misinformed.  

They were discovered before Bush invaded Iraq and were pretty much useless when they were discovered by the UN Inspectors.

going crazy

 

Book.Strumpet
by Fountain.Pirate on Jun. 23, 2014 at 5:34 AM

It doesn't surprise me at all. We know trains left Iraq and split off, some headed into Pakistan (with Iran's permission) and others into Syria and then went back to Iraq later when it was being transferred back to the people of Iraq.  What was on those trains, no one knows for sure. But we can possibly make a damn good educated guess.

SNAFU 


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