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Cavuto: Is Obama 'loyal and rational'?

Posted by on Jul. 27, 2014 at 12:52 AM
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"I would love nothing more than a loyal and rational opposition."

That's what the president says he wants to see in Washington. A loyal and rational opposition.

So what he's saying is the opposition right now is not loyal and is not rational.

Which means he is loyal and is rational.

So the opposition isn't rational when it pushes back, but you are, Mr. President, when you just push?

So you're being rational with your spending requests. The opposition's not being rational when it challenges your spending requests. I think that's how you played the last government shutdown and the media followed suit. The other guys were being stubborn wanting to stop spending; Democrats were not, wanting to continue spending.

So, it's rational to want to spend. It's irrational to not want to spend.

Just like it's rational to push immigration reform without enforcing the border. But it's irrational if the other side won't go along because you're not enforcing the border.

It's rational to call for billions more in infrastructure spending. But it's irrational for the other side to ask what did you do with the 125 billion bucks we fork over each year on infrastructure spending?

No, they're irrational, dare questioning this spending. You're not, dare adding to this spending?

So I guess you're loyal if you go along with this thinking and you're disloyal if you don't go along with this thinking?

Does that include being loyal to agencies that spy on Americans and don't explain why? Or keep veterans waiting years for care and don't seem to give a damn? Or target taxpayers for their political views and don't bother to explain?

You're irrational if you want to dig into that?

You're irrational if you think it's incomprehensible the IRS can just lose emails? You're irrational if you question raises being doled out like candy at the VA? You're irrational if you think half-trillion dollar deficits are still pretty bad? You're irrational if you insist on cooling spending so we don't make them worse?

Then we must have very different views on what's "rational" and who's "loyal." Because it's not irrational to question this idiotic behavior. It's idiotic thinking only irrational people do.

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29again
by Gold Member on Jul. 27, 2014 at 1:31 AM
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If he says he wants "loyal and rational opposition" then he is lying.   Opposition of any sort is the last thing he really wants. 

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jul. 27, 2014 at 4:36 AM
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A loyal opposition is one that is loyal to the country, not to the head of state.   They oppose your policies, but the support the basic system.   They don't deliberately burn the commons, harm the country, in order to get into power.

A rational opposition is one that doesn't act like a rabid dog, harming the country DESPITE not wanting to deliberately do so.

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jul. 27, 2014 at 4:41 AM
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In short, a loyal and rational opponent is one who will put aside their anger and cooperate with you, when doing so is in the best interests of the country, rather than saying "You plan to implement a policy that we ourselves originally proposed, but if you get credit for implementing it, that would help you get re-elected, so despite the fact that we think the policy is what is best for the country, we'd rather block it (until we get back in power and can claim all credit for it), so you get seen as a 'do nothing' president."


Interview published in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010:

McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”
NJ: What’s the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Jul. 27, 2014 at 7:11 PM

 After all these years, this comment is still going over your head, huh?

Quoting Clairwil:

In short, a loyal and rational opponent is one who will put aside their anger and cooperate with you, when doing so is in the best interests of the country, rather than saying "You plan to implement a policy that we ourselves originally proposed, but if you get credit for implementing it, that would help you get re-elected, so despite the fact that we think the policy is what is best for the country, we'd rather block it (until we get back in power and can claim all credit for it), so you get seen as a 'do nothing' president."

 

Interview published in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010:

McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”
NJ: What’s the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

 

Ednarooni160
by Eds on Jul. 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM
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What he's basically saying is that anyone who is opposed is wrong and he wants a loyal court..aka dictatorship/king/ wanting loyal subjects. Then everything will be okiedokie for everyone  in his little world/ aka little mind..

SilverTequila
by New Member on Jul. 28, 2014 at 7:59 AM

BUMP!

Clairwil
by Platinum Member on Jul. 28, 2014 at 12:06 PM


Quoting Ednarooni160:

What he's basically saying is that anyone who is opposed is wrong and he wants a loyal court..aka dictatorship/king/ wanting loyal subjects. Then everything will be okiedokie for everyone  in his little world/ aka little mind..

Evidence?

You realise the "loyal opposition" is a well known phrase, with a specific meaning, correct?

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