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Obamaism is dead..... Hillary killed it

Posted by on Aug. 14, 2014 at 9:03 PM
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It’s official: Obamaism is dead. Hillary Clinton killed it.

It wasn’t so much a mercy killing as an expedient one, but that’s politics in the best sense. The important thing is that she broke the Democratic omertà code by stating the obvious: The president’s policy of having America sit on the sidelines of a burning world is a disaster that threatens our national security.

The power of her argument is confirmed by a report that a testy Obama called it “horses–t” to congressional leaders. Even guru David Axelrod blasted her, proving she scored a direct hit on the Chicago mafia’s central nervous system.

The panic is legitimate. Clinton’s comments to The Atlantic magazine give security-minded Democrats permission to break ranks with the White House. Good God, they are free at last.

Republicans John McCain, Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, Pete King, Ted Cruz — they all said the same thing before her, with little impact. But Clinton, well, she’s not just any Democrat.

Timing matters, too. With an al Qaeda-like state being carved out of parts of Iraq and Syria, and with Russia, China and Iran taking advantage of our retreat, Clinton’s declaration of independence will get the ­attention of demoralized allies from Europe to the Middle East.

“Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” she said in demolishing Obama’s ­excuse for doing nothing.

As secretary of state, she wanted to arm Syrian rebels to help topple Bashar al-Assad, and now she says Obama’s refusal to agree was a “failure” that led to the creation of ISIS, the murderous Islamists building a terror state.

Yes, it’s all self-serving, but her logic is compelling and she extended it to other hot spots, even equating the fight against Islamists to the fight against communism. As she told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg:

“You know, we did a good job in containing the Soviet Union but we made a lot of mistakes, we supported really nasty guys, we did some things that we are not particularly proud of, from Latin America to Southeast Asia, but we did have a kind of overarching framework about what we were trying to do that did lead to the defeat of the Soviet Union and the collapse of communism. That was our objective. We achieved it.”

She also defended Israel against Hamas, saying of the civilian deaths in Gaza, “Ultimately, the responsibility rests with Hamas.”

These truths are self-evident — except to the Obama wing of the Democratic Party, the United Nations and appeasers everywhere. The president’s thinly veiled belief that America has been more of a problem than a solution is the foundation of his do-nothingism.

He rejects American exceptionalism and substitutes “leading from behind,” a concept as wise as the flat-earth theory. The fact that he had to order military strikes against ISIS in Iraq proves the idiocy of his claim that the “tide of war is receding.”

Mosaic magazine features another smart autopsy of his mistakes, with Michael Doran describing Obama’s approach as a “roundtable” negotiation where good and evil reason together to create an “equilibrium that should replace the American-led ­order of yesteryear.”

Doran, a former security adviser for George W. Bush, calls the idea “a chimera . . . that instead of ending wars . . . has helped prolong and multiply them.” Obama will not change, he writes, because that “would be tantamount to renouncing his cherished legacy.”

Clinton renounced it for both of them.

As for the politics, she obviously sees a break with her former boss as a plus for her 2016 race, or she wouldn’t have done it. That she sounds like a neocon might provoke a primary challenge from the left, and so she could pay a price.

But in the short term, she changes the subject from her money-grubbing scandals and tries to move beyond her lackluster tenure at State and the biggest failure on her watch, the Benghazi attack, by making a ­serious point.

So the politics could cut both ways, but the merits are clear. Because she’s right that Obama’s policies threaten our national security, it is immoral to stay silent.

She spoke up, and I thank her.

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Abaco
by Gold Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 9:55 PM
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blondekosmic15
by Blonde on Aug. 14, 2014 at 9:59 PM
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Hillary preparing the way for 2016.....

29again
by Gold Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 10:05 PM
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Oh, I am so confused now.  Did she or did she not attack Obama's foreign policy?   One day she did, the next she didn't.   One day the admin is blasting her, the next they say the two are basically the same, they just emphasize different aspects... 

The Democrats can't have it both ways....  they really can't. 

There are posts in this one group stating both sides of this.  This one here, and then this one.

Either Hillary attacked it, or she didn't.  Which is it?



MomTiara19
by Silver Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM
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The president does have advisors to help him make decisions on foreign affairs.

If the president was doing anything to threaten our national security I believe the impeachment threats republicans make would indeed come true.

Hilary is her own woman and it is no surprise she is gearing up for presidency in 2016/17

Besides Hillary and Obama hugged things out:)

All republicans do is fear monger and over dramatize when it comes to president Obama.

Wackos..


lylalane7275
by Silver Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 10:43 PM
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She did, and then she said she was sorry.  She even mocked his Foreign Policy strategy which is "Don't do stupid sh@t.

Quoting 29again:

Oh, I am so confused now.  Did she or did she not attack Obama's foreign policy?   One day she did, the next she didn't.   One day the admin is blasting her, the next they say the two are basically the same, they just emphasize different aspects... 

The Democrats can't have it both ways....  they really can't. 

There are posts in this one group stating both sides of this.  This one here, and then this one.

Either Hillary attacked it, or she didn't.  Which is it?



29again
by Gold Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 10:51 PM
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Did she mean it when she mocked his FP??  Or did she mean it when she said sawry?? 

Dems..... you never know what they really stand for, do ya?

Quoting lylalane7275:

She did, and then she said she was sorry.  She even mocked his Foreign Policy strategy which is "Don't do stupid sh@t.

Quoting 29again:

Oh, I am so confused now.  Did she or did she not attack Obama's foreign policy?   One day she did, the next she didn't.   One day the admin is blasting her, the next they say the two are basically the same, they just emphasize different aspects... 

The Democrats can't have it both ways....  they really can't. 

There are posts in this one group stating both sides of this.  This one here, and then this one.

Either Hillary attacked it, or she didn't.  Which is it?




grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 11:18 PM
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 This is fun watching Hillary tap dance all over the place.  She has to distance herself from Obama and his policies, yet if she gets too agressive, she'll alienate those big bucks Obama supporters.

The more she tries to appear middle of the road, the bigger chance she stands of getting tossed on her ass once again by the DNC.

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 11:21 PM
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 "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt."

Quoting MomTiara19:

The president does have advisors to help him make decisions on foreign affairs.

If the president was doing anything to threaten our national security I believe the impeachment threats republicans make would indeed come true.

Hilary is her own woman and it is no surprise she is gearing up for presidency in 2016/17

Besides Hillary and Obama hugged things out:)

All republicans do is fear monger and over dramatize when it comes to president Obama.

Wackos..

 

grandmab125
by Platinum Member on Aug. 14, 2014 at 11:32 PM
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He doesn't listen to his advisors, the generals, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, etc.  That's why he now has to send our men and women back into Iraq.  He's a total failure who doesn't have the brains to listen to the top military minds in the world.

You honestly don't have a clue that Obama and Clinton hate each other, do you?

Quoting MomTiara19:

The president does have advisors to help him make decisions on foreign affairs.

If the president was doing anything to threaten our national security I believe the impeachment threats republicans make would indeed come true.

Hilary is her own woman and it is no surprise she is gearing up for presidency in 2016/17

Besides Hillary and Obama hugged things out:)

All republicans do is fear monger and over dramatize when it comes to president Obama.

Wackos..

 

Sisteract
by Socialist Hippie on Aug. 14, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Politics as usual.

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