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Oklahoma GOP: Only Christians And Jews Should Be Able To Marry

Posted by on Jan. 31, 2015 at 10:54 AM
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Oklahoma GOP: Only Christians And Jews Should Be Able To Marry

January 30, 2015 9:34 pm

If you thought the GOP’s strident opposition to same-sex marriage is as far as they’d go while trying to restrict marriage rights, think again. Republicans in Oklahoma are going a step further, by introducing a bill that would limit marriage to people of faith. Not just any people of faith either — only Christians and Jews need apply.

Bible with wedding ring Image Credit: Pixabay via Creative Commons

Bible with wedding ring
Image Credit: Pixabay via Creative Commons

The bill, called House Bill 1125, would mean that people in Oklahoma could no longer get married legally without a priest, minister, rabbi or an ecclesiastical dignitary presiding. Further, all secular officials, such as judges and clerks, would no longer have the authority to perform weddings or issue marriage licenses.

The bill was introduced by State Representative Todd Russ (R-OK), and filed last Tuesday. The reason Russ gives for introducing this legislation is, as you might have guessed, rooted in homophobic bigotry. He says he wants to relieve court clerks and other officials of being put into the difficult position of having to officiate same-sex marriages or issue licenses to same-sex couples. As for the fact that such a bill would mean atheists, agnostics, pagans, Muslims, and people of any number of other faiths would be unable to marry under the new law — well, he doesn’t really care about that. In Russ’s own words:

“They don’t have a spiritual basis for a marriage and don’t want to have a clergy member or a priest or someone involved in the spiritual aspect, then they can file an affidavit of common-law marriage.”

Oklahoma State Rep. Todd Russ  Image Credit: KSWO-TV

Oklahoma State Rep. Todd Russ
Image Credit: KSWO-TV

Well, there are soooo many things this dude doesn’t understand here. Where to start? For one thing, limiting marriage to Christians and Jews will not stop same-sex marriage. There are plenty of gay Christians and gay Jews. In fact, I’d say, given the fact that there are way more straight people than LGBT people, he’d be hurting more heterosexuals than LGBT people with this bill, no matter what his intentions. For another, this is blatantly unconstitutional. The constitution guarantees religious liberty for all, not just Christians and Jews. It always amazes me to see just how many lawmakers have absolutely no understanding of the laws they are sworn to uphold.

Also, Russ’s argument that anyone who is not of his chosen faiths — or who, for whatever reason, refuses to have a priest, rabbi, reverend, or minister preside over a wedding — could file for a common-law marriage affidavit falls flat, as Oklahoma does not recognize common-law marriages.

This is a new low, even for conservative Christians. Luckily, it is completely illegal. However, I think things like this should serve as a wake-up call. Fundamentalist Christians are dangerous, and they are making our laws. Left wing Christians, if you wish to save your faith from these loony, dangerous bigots, now is the time. This is why so many people are leaving your faith in droves. Christianity is ruled by the fanatical right these days, and no decent person wants any part of what it is rapidly becoming.

H/T: Progressive Secular Humanist at Patheos




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numbr1wmn
by Gold Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 10:56 AM
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WTF? WRONG on many levels here.

collectivecow
by Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 11:26 AM
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It really annoys me when people decide to throw an entire group they aren't a part of and try to use that group to further their crazy notions. 

Case in point:

Civil marriage is IRRELEVANT in the context of Judaism. We follow a religious marriage contract called a Ketubah. We also marry through civil unions because that is the law and we abide by the laws of the country we live in. 

However, a civil marriage is not recognized under Jewish law in Judaism. 

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MyMyOhMy
by Bronze Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 11:48 AM

Oklahoma is a weird state. They took common law marriages off the books in the captial, but the judges refuse so far to not up hold common law marriages so you can still file one. 

They get a lot of dick laws like this one too.

NWP
by Guerilla Girl on Jan. 31, 2015 at 1:15 PM

Nice to see you CC.

It is very difficult for some people to understand that civil marraige is not the same thing as holy matrimony or a religious union. It seems pretty clear to me though. One is a government contract involving property rights and taxation, the other is a spiritual union in the eyes of a god/gods and usually dictates some kind of moral blessing for the existence sexual activity between two partners, hence "waiting until you are married". 

The former isn't involved with the latter's concerns and the latter isn't legally binding in the former's concerns. 

Quoting collectivecow:

It really annoys me when people decide to throw an entire group they aren't a part of and try to use that group to further their crazy notions. Case in point:

Civil marriage is IRRELEVANT in the context of Judaism. We follow a religious marriage contract called a Ketubah. We also marry through civil unions because that is the law and we abide by the laws of the country we live in. However, a civil marriage is not recognized under Jewish law in Judaism. 


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mikiemom
by Gold Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 1:18 PM

Sigh, these arrogant assholes just are not living in the realm of reality.

PamR
by Platinum Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 2:24 PM
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OK is starting to make GA look smart.  And that's not easy to do.

Della529
by on Jan. 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM

I wonder is he's one of those who claim Catholicism is a cult and not a part of Christianity.

PamR
by Platinum Member on Jan. 31, 2015 at 5:27 PM

So no civil marriage? 

I don't know what kind of point he's trying to make, but this is going nowhere.

tattedmommy730
by Bronze Member on Feb. 1, 2015 at 11:16 AM
Oh isn't that sweet lol.
TCgirlatheart
by TC on Feb. 1, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Wow. What a tool.
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