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Natural birth control

Posted by on Jul. 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM
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Hi Ladies!  So, what do you use for birth control, or do you use anything?  Is it ok if you get pregnant right now, or is it absolutely imperative that you prevent pregnancy?  Does anyone chart their cycle?  Does charting seem too challenging  or have you mastered it?  Lots of questions :-)

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Drumdiva
by Group Owner on Jul. 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I have been charting my cycle nearly 10 years.  It seemed challenging at first, but as a researcher, I dove in and absorbed all the info and it became easy.  Back then I had to actually print out a chart every month and fill in all of that month's dates, etc and record it with pen and paper each day.  Now, with Fertility Friend, its easy to do it online with no paper.  I simply take my temp before I get out of bed in the morning, on a regular digital thermometer.  It saves the last temp taken, so I don't bother actually recording it online until later, although I usually remember because right now I'm ttc and every temp tells a story.  Then, when I have time, I can either enter the temp data on my phone through the free app or online.  Its that simple.

You learn so much about your body when you chart.  I think every women should know their body that intimately - especially if you MUST prevent pregnancy and want to do it naturally, or if you want to get pregnant.  Knowing exactly when your are fertile is power.  Not when you "think" you are fertile, but absolutely knowing without a doubt!  After a few months of charting you will observe patterns indicating the days you normally ovulate.  It will be within the same 2-5 day period every month unless something disrupts it like stress or travel.  In fact, many women needlessly think they are pregnant when they are not, just because they believe their period is late.  If they charted, they would see that they actually ovulated later than usual.  Once you ovulate, there is a finite amount of time before you have your period IF you are not pregnant.  

When you know your fertile time, you either take steps to prevent a pregnancy which include abstinence (or getting creative) or condoms. And it is only a 2-5 day period of actualy fertility.  If you want to get pregnant, you get busy!  Its that simple.  The entire rest of the month you are free from thinking about it and your body is free from the chemical hormones. 

And, if you visit your OBGYN regularly, and they ask you when was the first day of your last menstrual period you don't hem and haw and say ummmm.... as they pull out the calendar to try and spur your memory.  You whip out your chart - WHAPA!!  And blow their mind with the accuracy of your knowledge!

Bitterroot
by New Member on Jul. 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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We used NFP (Natural Family Planning) with zero birth control pills for us for nearly 15 years of our marriage.

I'd been on birth control pills when we first got married (for about 6 months).  They made me horribly ill and I vomited daily for about the first 7 days, even on the lowest dose.

Then I learned (actually remembered) about NFP and went that route.

I charted my cycle and knew my days of ovulation by the consistency of my discharge.  It turns from a clumpy discharge to a runny almost egg-white substance during ovulation, and remains that way for several days.

We either abstained from sex during those fertile days, or we used a condom.

But this method worked for the whole time we were married, so long as I was consistent with my abstinence or condom-wearing.

When my first dd was 3.5 years old, I knew I wanted another child although my husband wasn't against the idea, so I quit using abstinence or a condom and without trying, I was pg within one month's time.

It's a great way to naturally plan for a family...or not plan for a family.  The key is for you to be consistent with your methodology and not easily distracted by emotion (or physical needs).

Mommymo08
by New Member on Jul. 10, 2012 at 11:18 AM

long story short, after being on and off BCP after 1st and 2nd baby I was MISERABLE!!!  My periods arent regular, so we are using condoms (yuck) Except for the few days after my period.  My cycles are 35-40 days typically, so those days seem pretty safe.  We are onthe fence if there will be a 3rd, but would really prefer to get our home sold and move before we think about another....it wouldn't be ideal if we got pregnant now, but we'd be ok.

Drumdiva
by Group Owner on Jul. 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Yeah, condoms aren't so fun.  But see that is what I find to be so great about charting.  You will begin to see regular patterns and know whereabouts you will ovulate, and then only need condoms during those few days.  Regardless of how long our cycles are, we are only fertile a few days per cycle.  But sperm can stay alive for several days...up to 5.  The good thing for you is that your ok either way with a pregnancy.  I hope it all comes together with the house and such :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

long story short, after being on and off BCP after 1st and 2nd baby I was MISERABLE!!!  My periods arent regular, so we are using condoms (yuck) Except for the few days after my period.  My cycles are 35-40 days typically, so those days seem pretty safe.  We are onthe fence if there will be a 3rd, but would really prefer to get our home sold and move before we think about another....it wouldn't be ideal if we got pregnant now, but we'd be ok.


Drumdiva
by Group Owner on Jul. 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Tip on avoiding pregnancy with a natural bc method - sperm cannot stay alive in heat.  Hot tubs and hot baths for him just before and during your fertile time can help reduce sperm count, temporarily.  For you, hot baths during your fertile time (or any time sperm has been deposited and you think you could get pregnant) can help prevent conception by killing any sperm inside of you.  Also a good tip if your trying to get pregnant - stay out of hot water!  This should not be used as a bc method, but if a condom breaks or you think you could be at risk, its a secondary tool.

Mommymo08
by New Member on Jul. 10, 2012 at 5:57 PM

my periods vary by as much as 10 days from one cycle to the next so there is no "regular pattern" so to speak :(    The only thing I have been able to see/chart/look for is cervical mucous, but I thought* by the time that happens if you have DTD right before and sperm live for up to a week that that would be unreliable??  Or am I wrong?

Quoting Drumdiva:

Yeah, condoms aren't so fun.  But see that is what I find to be so great about charting.  You will begin to see regular patterns and know whereabouts you will ovulate, and then only need condoms during those few days.  Regardless of how long our cycles are, we are only fertile a few days per cycle.  But sperm can stay alive for several days...up to 5.  The good thing for you is that your ok either way with a pregnancy.  I hope it all comes together with the house and such :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

long story short, after being on and off BCP after 1st and 2nd baby I was MISERABLE!!!  My periods arent regular, so we are using condoms (yuck) Except for the few days after my period.  My cycles are 35-40 days typically, so those days seem pretty safe.  We are onthe fence if there will be a 3rd, but would really prefer to get our home sold and move before we think about another....it wouldn't be ideal if we got pregnant now, but we'd be ok.

 


Drumdiva
by Group Owner on Jul. 10, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Even a cycle that varies within 10 days is somewhat normal because you know you always have that variant.  We have cervical mucous throughout the cycle, but just before ovulation it becomes egg white in quality.  You can stretch it between your fingers or when you whipe it's like slip and slide...sorry if thats tmi :-)  That eggwhite CM is what carries the sperm to it's destination where it meets the egg.  That is also what the sperm stays alive in as it waits for the egg.  Once ovulation occurs, the eggwhite quality CM changes to a more creamy consistency or dries up completely.  Every woman is different.  When you chart by taking your temp every morning in conjunction with monitoring your CM you not only know when you are fertile based on CM, but you also have an absolute knowing when ovulation has occured.  The progesterone that is produced at ovulation causes your temp to rise and stay "high" unitl your period starts.  The day your period starts, it dips.  

So, once you have that rise in temp, you know you have already ovulated and are no longer fertile as the "egg" unfertilized only lives 24 hours.  After two consecutive days of a temp that has risen, you are safe for unprotected sex.  Likewise, the day you will start your period your temp will take a dip indicating "aunt flow" will arrive that day, so be prepared.  It's fool proof.  Thats why charting is so empowering.  You KNOW exactly when you are fertile and exactly when you are not.  You also know exactly when flow will arrive.  

Furthermore, the time between your period and ovulation can vary.  Thats where your 10 days are coming in.  However, the time between ovulation and your period is finite.  It varies from women to women, but is between 10 and 16 days typically.  When your morning temp (aka basal body temp) stays high for 18 days or more, it is a clear sign that you are most likely pregnant.  

Hopefully that answered your question...maybe overkill, lol :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

my periods vary by as much as 10 days from one cycle to the next so there is no "regular pattern" so to speak :(    The only thing I have been able to see/chart/look for is cervical mucous, but I thought* by the time that happens if you have DTD right before and sperm live for up to a week that that would be unreliable??  Or am I wrong?

Quoting Drumdiva:

Yeah, condoms aren't so fun.  But see that is what I find to be so great about charting.  You will begin to see regular patterns and know whereabouts you will ovulate, and then only need condoms during those few days.  Regardless of how long our cycles are, we are only fertile a few days per cycle.  But sperm can stay alive for several days...up to 5.  The good thing for you is that your ok either way with a pregnancy.  I hope it all comes together with the house and such :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

long story short, after being on and off BCP after 1st and 2nd baby I was MISERABLE!!!  My periods arent regular, so we are using condoms (yuck) Except for the few days after my period.  My cycles are 35-40 days typically, so those days seem pretty safe.  We are onthe fence if there will be a 3rd, but would really prefer to get our home sold and move before we think about another....it wouldn't be ideal if we got pregnant now, but we'd be ok.




NaturalMamaCZ
by New Member on Jul. 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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Okay, i think I'm ready to do this. Have thought about it for years but you ladies put it into an easy perspective. Thanks!
Drumdiva
by Group Owner on Jul. 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Thats awesome! If you have questions or need help, let me know.


Quoting NaturalMamaCZ:

Okay, i think I'm ready to do this. Have thought about it for years but you ladies put it into an easy perspective. Thanks!

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Mommymo08
by New Member on Jul. 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

no tmi here LOL...details are helpful.  SO, that settles second day of temp rise through period (although we dont really DTD durning autn flo) but what about post period until temp rise. If M doesnt change UNTIL ovulation is about to happen and we DTD a few days before that and sperm are still present that would not be good???

Also, is there an android app you use or know of for recordinng temps?

THANKS

Quoting Drumdiva:

Even a cycle that varies within 10 days is somewhat normal because you know you always have that variant.  We have cervical mucous throughout the cycle, but just before ovulation it becomes egg white in quality.  You can stretch it between your fingers or when you whipe it's like slip and slide...sorry if thats tmi :-)  That eggwhite CM is what carries the sperm to it's destination where it meets the egg.  That is also what the sperm stays alive in as it waits for the egg.  Once ovulation occurs, the eggwhite quality CM changes to a more creamy consistency or dries up completely.  Every woman is different.  When you chart by taking your temp every morning in conjunction with monitoring your CM you not only know when you are fertile based on CM, but you also have an absolute knowing when ovulation has occured.  The progesterone that is produced at ovulation causes your temp to rise and stay "high" unitl your period starts.  The day your period starts, it dips.  

So, once you have that rise in temp, you know you have already ovulated and are no longer fertile as the "egg" unfertilized only lives 24 hours.  After two consecutive days of a temp that has risen, you are safe for unprotected sex.  Likewise, the day you will start your period your temp will take a dip indicating "aunt flow" will arrive that day, so be prepared.  It's fool proof.  Thats why charting is so empowering.  You KNOW exactly when you are fertile and exactly when you are not.  You also know exactly when flow will arrive.  

Furthermore, the time between your period and ovulation can vary.  Thats where your 10 days are coming in.  However, the time between ovulation and your period is finite.  It varies from women to women, but is between 10 and 16 days typically.  When your morning temp (aka basal body temp) stays high for 18 days or more, it is a clear sign that you are most likely pregnant.  

Hopefully that answered your question...maybe overkill, lol :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

my periods vary by as much as 10 days from one cycle to the next so there is no "regular pattern" so to speak :(    The only thing I have been able to see/chart/look for is cervical mucous, but I thought* by the time that happens if you have DTD right before and sperm live for up to a week that that would be unreliable??  Or am I wrong?

Quoting Drumdiva:

Yeah, condoms aren't so fun.  But see that is what I find to be so great about charting.  You will begin to see regular patterns and know whereabouts you will ovulate, and then only need condoms during those few days.  Regardless of how long our cycles are, we are only fertile a few days per cycle.  But sperm can stay alive for several days...up to 5.  The good thing for you is that your ok either way with a pregnancy.  I hope it all comes together with the house and such :-)

Quoting Mommymo08:

long story short, after being on and off BCP after 1st and 2nd baby I was MISERABLE!!!  My periods arent regular, so we are using condoms (yuck) Except for the few days after my period.  My cycles are 35-40 days typically, so those days seem pretty safe.  We are onthe fence if there will be a 3rd, but would really prefer to get our home sold and move before we think about another....it wouldn't be ideal if we got pregnant now, but we'd be ok.

 

 

 


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