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Are you a white nationalist?  What were your thoughts about the message of the white nationalists in Charlottsville?  Without commenting on the violence, what about the words and message from the torch walk?

Do you agree with their message?  Do you think they are nazis?  If not, why not?

Do you embrace the philosophy?

by on Aug. 12, 2017 at 10:09 PM
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TarotLady
by Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 5:38 AM
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That post wasn't made for actual civil discussion. It was posted with malice for shock and awe. There is a reason it went down hill quickly and that's because it was garbage.

Debrowsky
by Platinum Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 2:20 PM
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can't argue with that.  still.... it is mind boggling how confused some still are about all this, and think wrongly about others.

Quoting TarotLady:

That post wasn't made for actual civil discussion. It was posted with malice for shock and awe. There is a reason it went down hill quickly and that's because it was garbage.


pdxmum
by Gold Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 2:36 PM
Had no idea you were being facetious and is why I asked questions.

I don't get how nazis and white supremacists are representative of liberal left ideology. But then again I think antifa/anarchists/black bloc groups are extremists without political ideology. And black lives matter.

Quoting cammibear:

Somebody else may have answered this already. But I was being facetious. I'm I guess what would actually be termed an American Nationalist.  Same as Trump. Same as most of what is being lumped into "white nationalism" these days, which is absolutely not the same thing. 

The connection is that the ideology of the KKK, White Supremists, BLM, and Antifa are all Left Ideology, not right.

Quoting pdxmum: Ok. But why did you label yourself a white nationalist? I went where I did because of you saying that because you believe in national sovereignty you were a white nationalist. What is the connection?

Quoting cammibear:

BJ gave a great explanation of what national sovereignty is.  

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, since we are actually all one race--the human race.

Quoting pdxmum: What is national sovereignty? Are you ceding America back to native Americans? Are you saying America is only a white country and all other races should leave?

What does someone who believes in national sovereignty think should happen today?

I mean isn't that what hitler wanted? A pure race?

Quoting cammibear:

I'm white and believe in national sovereignty.  I guess that makes me a white nationalist.  

I loudly reject the Ideology of all groups involved in Charlottesville. Nazi Socialist Fascists would be far left, not right on a political spectrum.  They have nothing to do with Trump, and nothing to do with nationalism, except they obviously have no clue what "Make America Great Again" actually means. 

cammibear
by Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 5:37 PM
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The Nazi's were Socialist Fascists.  Leftist Ideology.   

Truth is that we want to label all these groups, but I wonder if those involved in these groups really understand what they are a part of.  The lines seem very blurred to me.  Example would be Antifa.  Supposedly an Anti-Fascist movement against the neo-nazis.  However, they are funded by an Anti-Semetic Fascist . Go figure.

What if I am right, and the so-called racial war we are experiencing is this country is only in the minds of those being exploited by the community aggitators? "Useful idiots"?



Quoting pdxmum: Had no idea you were being facetious and is why I asked questions. I don't get how nazis and white supremacists are representative of liberal left ideology. But then again I think antifa/anarchists/black bloc groups are extremists without political ideology. And black lives matter.
Quoting cammibear:

Somebody else may have answered this already. But I was being facetious. I'm I guess what would actually be termed an American Nationalist.  Same as Trump. Same as most of what is being lumped into "white nationalism" these days, which is absolutely not the same thing. 

The connection is that the ideology of the KKK, White Supremists, BLM, and Antifa are all Left Ideology, not right.

Quoting pdxmum: Ok. But why did you label yourself a white nationalist? I went where I did because of you saying that because you believe in national sovereignty you were a white nationalist. What is the connection?
Quoting cammibear:

BJ gave a great explanation of what national sovereignty is.  

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, since we are actually all one race--the human race.

Quoting pdxmum: What is national sovereignty? Are you ceding America back to native Americans? Are you saying America is only a white country and all other races should leave? What does someone who believes in national sovereignty think should happen today? I mean isn't that what hitler wanted? A pure race?
Quoting cammibear:

I'm white and believe in national sovereignty.  I guess that makes me a white nationalist.  

I loudly reject the Ideology of all groups involved in Charlottesville. Nazi Socialist Fascists would be far left, not right on a political spectrum.  They have nothing to do with Trump, and nothing to do with nationalism, except they obviously have no clue what "Make America Great Again" actually means. 




cammibear
by Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 5:45 PM
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Twisted is exactly right.  I think there is a reason football coaches get placed as "history" teachers.  

Quoting Debrowsky:

well there you go.  simple and to the point.  how this gets twisted and misconstrued defies all logic.

Quoting cammibear:

Somebody else may have answered this already. But I was being facetious. I'm I guess what would actually be termed an American Nationalist.  Same as Trump. Same as most of what is being lumped into "white nationalism" these days, which is absolutely not the same thing. 

The connection is that the ideology of the KKK, White Supremists, BLM, and Antifa are all Left Ideology, not right.

Quoting pdxmum: Ok. But why did you label yourself a white nationalist? I went where I did because of you saying that because you believe in national sovereignty you were a white nationalist. What is the connection?
Quoting cammibear:

BJ gave a great explanation of what national sovereignty is.  

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, since we are actually all one race--the human race.

Quoting pdxmum: What is national sovereignty? Are you ceding America back to native Americans? Are you saying America is only a white country and all other races should leave? What does someone who believes in national sovereignty think should happen today? I mean isn't that what hitler wanted? A pure race?
Quoting cammibear:

I'm white and believe in national sovereignty.  I guess that makes me a white nationalist.  

I loudly reject the Ideology of all groups involved in Charlottesville. Nazi Socialist Fascists would be far left, not right on a political spectrum.  They have nothing to do with Trump, and nothing to do with nationalism, except they obviously have no clue what "Make America Great Again" actually means. 





Debrowsky
by Platinum Member on Aug. 22, 2017 at 6:24 PM

kiss mini

Quoting cammibear:

Twisted is exactly right.  I think there is a reason football coaches get placed as "history" teachers.  

Quoting Debrowsky:

well there you go.  simple and to the point.  how this gets twisted and misconstrued defies all logic.

Quoting cammibear:

Somebody else may have answered this already. But I was being facetious. I'm I guess what would actually be termed an American Nationalist.  Same as Trump. Same as most of what is being lumped into "white nationalism" these days, which is absolutely not the same thing. 

The connection is that the ideology of the KKK, White Supremists, BLM, and Antifa are all Left Ideology, not right.

Quoting pdxmum: Ok. But why did you label yourself a white nationalist? I went where I did because of you saying that because you believe in national sovereignty you were a white nationalist. What is the connection?
Quoting cammibear:

BJ gave a great explanation of what national sovereignty is.  

It has absolutely nothing to do with race, since we are actually all one race--the human race.

Quoting pdxmum: What is national sovereignty? Are you ceding America back to native Americans? Are you saying America is only a white country and all other races should leave? What does someone who believes in national sovereignty think should happen today? I mean isn't that what hitler wanted? A pure race?
Quoting cammibear:

I'm white and believe in national sovereignty.  I guess that makes me a white nationalist.  

I loudly reject the Ideology of all groups involved in Charlottesville. Nazi Socialist Fascists would be far left, not right on a political spectrum.  They have nothing to do with Trump, and nothing to do with nationalism, except they obviously have no clue what "Make America Great Again" actually means. 






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