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has anyone tried to induce themselfs at home ?

Posted by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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im trying to do it. my doctor said he will induce me next week and i wanted to try to induce labor at home frist to see if i can. im 38wks and 2days

by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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cpflum08
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 12:39 PM

You should just tell your Dr you will let him know when your ready to be induced, and hope that baby comes on it's own. you can try everything in the book to try to make the baby come, but if its not ready your just wasting your time, and adding stress to your self for it not working. Good luck mama.

bigbrina456
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 12:49 PM

he said that he will induce me and if the baby is too big next week they will do a c-section on me. i was 9lbs when i was born and i want my baby to be under that cause i want to go all natural with this one. he is 7lbs right now and hopefullly when i go in monday he will tell me he will induce me cause that is what i want.

DixieFlower
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 1:25 PM

First of all your body will not produce a baby that is too big for you to birth. Late pregnancy u/s can be extremely off also. I went into labor with DS at 37 wks. My appointment that week my OB told me that DS was already 8lbs and if he continued on this rate of growth we'd need to possibly discuss induction at 39wks. Well he was born and weighed a whole 7lbs 8oz. None of my mom's children were over 7lbs. Yet my middle sister vaginally gave birth to two girls that were over 9lbs each. I was 5lbs at birth and my children have been in the 7lb range. However, none of that matters. No matter what your baby weighs you can still have your natural birth. Induction of labor does not work if baby is not ready to come. Not to mention medical inductions have a high percentage of ending in C sections because they fail or the baby gets distressed.

Quoting bigbrina456:

he said that he will induce me and if the baby is too big next week they will do a c-section on me. i was 9lbs when i was born and i want my baby to be under that cause i want to go all natural with this one. he is 7lbs right now and hopefullly when i go in monday he will tell me he will induce me cause that is what i want.


kemmerer411
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Just say NO to induction!
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doulala
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:30 PM


Quoting bigbrina456:

he said that he will induce me and if the baby is too big next week they will do a c-section on me. i was 9lbs when i was born and i want my baby to be under that cause i want to go all natural with this one. he is 7lbs right now and hopefullly when i go in monday he will tell me he will induce me cause that is what i want.

Why is this a reason to induce or surgically deliver?

Please know that you've hired a surgeon, not a normal birth specialist to attend your normal birth.
It's very common and normal for a surgeon to invent "reasons" to do thing his way.   Not nature's way/safer way.

You can't KNOW that your baby is any weight.   Estimates are guesses.   Even if they are accurate it doesn't mean you can't deliver naturally.
Although with this provider there will probably be more "reasons" that there are "complications."


I strongly encourage you to be aware and get the truth.
Insist he answers your questions and proves (with sources) that intervening in your normal-healthy pregnancy is safer.

If you prefer a safer route, avoid unneessary interventions like induction or a cesarean.



If you don't know your options, you don't have any.           ~Korte & Scaer

Mothers need to know that their care and their choices won't be compromised by birth politics.                                                                                            ~Jennifer Rosenberg

Midwives see birth as a miracle and only mess with it if there's a problem;
doctors see birth as a problem and if they don't mess with it, it's a miracle!     
~Barbara Harper

doulala
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Automatic Cesarean because of suspected Big Baby?

 There seems to be a trend of scaring moms about the size of their babies.  I have had friends who have had elective cesareans because their OB said their baby was too big to deliver vaginally.  No "trial of labor" instead straight to the OR, which puts them and their baby more at risk.  The ACOG says that macrosomia (suspected big baby) is not a good reason for Induction or Cesarean.  So if an OB or Midwife recommend this, question it, ask what does ACOG recommend with macrosomia?   Then whip this out of your purse.  ACOG Guidelines of Fetal Macrosomia - They have removed this statement (maybe too many moms were bringing it into their OBs) so here is a statement by the American Family Physician on macrosomia.

I even know a mom who had a previous vaginal birth, so a "proven pelvis", the OB said, baby will be TOO big and scheduled a cesarean.  I suggested she could choose to get a second opinion, she didn't (was tired of being pregnant, big and uncomfortable) and the baby was born by cesarean and was smaller than her first vaginally born baby.   A very unnecessary operation, with a long recovery (LOTS of discomfort) for a mom with a toddler and newborn to take care of.  

I understand that OBs are trying to cover their butts, I understand that it is more convenient to schedule and induction or even more convenient and they make more money with cesareans.  But is it ethical to give only partial information to these moms?  Do they say, your ultrasound makes it seem like the baby is possibly going to be 10 pounds, but they can be off by up to 2 pounds, so it is possible your baby is only 8 pounds.  Do they say, I would like to induce you, but your bishops score is only 3 and you are most likely going to end up with a cesarean.  Do they say elective cesareans are actually more risky than vaginal births for both mom and baby?   






What about Inducing for suspected Big Baby?

The probably more common approach is for OBs to suggest moms be induced because their babies are getting too big.  Many moms at the end of their pregnancy are feeling uncomfortable and are looking for a way to get this baby out, the sooner the better.  They are not told the risks of induction, not told their Bishops Score, nor told they are possibly setting themselves up for a cesarean. 

Let us also remember that the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists do not recommend induction for a big baby, let alone cesarean. Big babies are also known as macrosomia. They have recently found that in addition to it being really difficult to tell the big babies from the regular sized babies via ultrasound, that when you induce a woman who is suspected to have a large baby, she is more likely to have a cesarean section.  So it is better to just let nature take its course and all will be well.  Especially if the mom is able to move around and push in more upright positions. 

Definition of a Big Baby

Lets think of a few things....  what is considered a BIG baby?  I had 2 babies around 9 pounds, one exactly 9 pounds and 1 a bit bigger.  Everyone seemed very impressed that I had pushed these HUGE babies out of me.   Well, did they forget that is exactly what my body is supposed to do?  My vagina is meant to stretch, my pelvis is meant to open, my body will grow the perfect size baby for me. 

Statistically and medically a 9 pound baby is in the average range. 

"Babies weighing more than 9 pounds and 15 ounces (4,500 grams) are considered much larger than average. (Average newborn weight is 7 pounds and 8 ounces.) It's very difficult to determine whether a baby is truly macrosomic (literally "of large body") while she's still in the womb ā€” only a post-birth weigh-in confirms it."

ACOG recommends intervention only if baby is over 5000 grams which is 11 pounds.  Keep in mind they admit there is NO WAY to know how much a baby will weigh until after the baby is born.  So if they think by ultrasound a baby will be 11 pounds... the baby could actually only be 9 pounds, well within normal. 

Mental Games

What about the simple fact that just saying your baby is getting to big, what does that do to a moms thought process?  We are suggestible, especially at times when a person who has "authority" says something.  How many moms are psyched out of birthing their babies the way their body knows how to, but that seed of doubt is planted by their care provider. 

You can counteract this by saying affirmations to yourself. 

My body grows the perfect size baby for ME!

Baby Fat smushes... allowing my baby to easily be born.

My body can easily birth this baby. 

Let us remember our bodies will not grow what it can not birth.  Which makes me think of a favorite article I read called, Pelvises I have known and loved. 

I think hypnosis can help to reprogram your mind and trust in your body.  Also the Bubble of Peace you get in Hypnobabies can help bounce negative ideas away from you too.  :)

But the ultrasound/OB said....

But the ultrasound says ______ fill in the blank.  "A study comparing fetal weight estimates of clinicians, multiparous patients and ultrasonography found that ultrasound was the least accurate of the three methods.13 Limitations in the sensitivity and specificity of ultrasound have been observed in other studies.15 Despite these limitations, clinicians continue to incorrectly believe that ultrasound is an accurate way of predicting macrosomia.17 "  link from  http://www.aafp.org/afp/20010115/302.html

You decide what YOU want.  Do your research and follow your gut.  Do you trust your body to grow the right size baby for you?  I know when Carson was born (my first VBAC 9lbs 4oz) my OB said, "If I had known he was that big I wouldn't have let you try for a VBAC."   My response was, "Thank goodness you didn't know, because I obviously could do it."    Would I have been strong enough to fight for my VBAC if she had doubted in me?  I would like to think yes... I know for sure when I was getting huge with Bryson, I knew there would be nothing stopping me from delivering vaginally as long as I was ok and baby ok... size was irrelevant!

That really is a shame, many OBs do see birth as a medical problem instead of a natural event.  They are also used to most of their moms having epidurals, which can make pushing any size baby out a bit more challenging at times. 

Some good questions to ask are.... "Is Mom OK?  Is Baby OK?"  If the answer to those are yes, then it isn't medically necessary. 

 

written by, Sheridan Ripley ā€“ Proud VBAC mom, Lactivist, Hypnobabies Instructor, Positive Birth Story Collector, Doula and mom of 3 busy boys.  

Her OC Hypnobabies Website is www.enjoybirth.com
Positive Birth Stories and birth video www.pregnancybirthandbabies.com 

Please visit this great post about Big Babies at the Nurturing Hearts Birth Services Blog!


Great Video about moms who were told they needed Cesareans because their babies were too big for their pelvis and went on to birth BIGGER babies vaginally.






Just as a womanā€™s heart knows,

How and when to pump,

Her lungs to inhale,

And her hand to pull back from fire,

So she knows when and how to give birth.


- Virginia Di


ICAN

doulala
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM

 

  • The pelvis and the baby's head are not fixed bone structures. During labor the pelvis opens, allowing room for the baby, whose head molds to fit.

    The pelvis will actually open up 33% larger than it's pre-pregnant size with a squatting position. There are several factors that contribute to this.
    First a hormone called relaxin is released during the latter part of pregnancy which soften the ligaments and cartilage surrounding the pelvis.
    Also different positions assumed during labor will change the dimensions of the pelvis such as walking, climbing stairs and squatting.
    This combined with the flexibility of the baby's head gives ample room for babies to move through the pelvis.
    The baby's head is made up of five plates that are connected with soft tissues that allow it to mold during the birth process as the baby travels through the pelvis. These bones return to their pre-birth state within hours of birth.

    from ICAN

Pelvises I Have Known and Loved - by Gloria Lemay

 

 

 

photos

A VERY Tiny women's home birth Graphic

Too Small to have a baby? Graphic

DixieFlower
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM

Thanks doulala I was looking for that "Tiny woman's home birth one" ;)

doulala
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:39 PM

lol

I have a lot of stuff saved, but I give up for now!  lol
Hope that plants a seed of Hope.
;-)

M.kadester.J
by on Feb. 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Your dr can NOT make you induce... expecially for a non medical reason such as "baby is too big". Just say no!!! I wouldnt want that dr anywhere close to me!!
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