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WOW never thought I would get a response like this

Posted by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM
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Ok so I posted a question on Cafemom answers board to see if anyone knew the answer because I'm interested. I'm guessing that was my first mistake.. Here is what my questions were

Ok so I am just wondering how it all works out if I have my baby at home unassisted. How do I go about getting social security card and birth certificate? Do I have the baby at home and then go to hospital for us both to be checked out? I'm just trying to figure if I am do this how it all works and stuff so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

 

The responses I got were kind of rude and made me a little upset. One person told me I was stupid and didn't deserve my children and needed to have them taken away. Another told me I had to go to the hospital because the baby absolutely had to have a Hep B shot.

So here I am asking the women who are educated and not going to call me names based on me wanting more info about a unassisted homebirth.

by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM
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truealaskanmom
by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Yeah not a great place for real answers.  I can help though.  No you don't have to go to the hospital to be checked out if all is fine you can be seen by a midwife and ped a few days after the birth, you get the birth cert and ss card by going to vital statistics filling out the form providing proof of pregnancy and that is pretty much it. 

BrittBratt
by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM
I am birthing unassisted in October :)

The info given above me is dead on. Call your local Vital Statistics office and ask what their requirements are for getting a BC and SS card after a home birth...no need to mention that it will be unassisted.


Brittany~ 20something, LDS, Intactivist/Lactivist, SAHM/WAHM, future UC'ing mom of lots of little people! Married to my Native American (Crow tribe) SuperMan, who gives us the World! big smile mini


 

Pandapanda
by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 10:37 PM

I try to stay away from the answers section.. it's so nasty over there sometimes! You'll need to go to your local office of Vital Statistics, they have all the forms you need to fill out for birth certs, ssn cards, etc.

airadan
by on Apr. 22, 2011 at 11:59 PM
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I just had a UC on Monday. I chose not to be seen afterward, I will schedule an apointment for my son as soon as I can, and in a few weeks for myself.

Roadfamily6now
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 12:07 AM

I have had an unassisted birth. My best advice is to do the following....... it might not be 100% ideal for some people but it will help make everything much easier.

#1. Do some prenatal appointments with someone (this will come in handy when you have to prove you were pregnant)

#2.  Have baby seen in the first 3 weeks after birth by a doctor.  (this will come in handy to prove baby exists)

The Vital Statistics office is usually very helpful answering your questions and will have all the paperwork you need to fill out.  I never encountered any rude people at the VS office. I hope you are as lucky.

Getting the paperwork for baby was very easy. My favorite part was filling out the forms and when it asked for BIRTH ATTENDANT, I got to write in my Husband's name! Normally this is where the OB or Midwife's name goes.

doulala
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 1:26 AM

I have some info saved somewhere...
Let me see...  lol

 

 


doulala
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 1:27 AM

 

Your Homebirth and Unassisted Birth Paperwork

Even Though You Aren't at a Hospital You Will Still Have Some Paperwork

By BuntingResources.com, published May 01, 2007

When you have a homebirth and a midwife you will have to fill out certain paperwork. The forms for your child's social security number and birth certificate will apply no matter if you have an unassisted birth or choose to have a midwife. Every midwife is going to be different and the state that you live in will affect the amount of paperwork that is required of her to have parents fill out.

Paperwork for a Midwife

Legal Disclaimer
It is likely that you will have to fill out a legal disclaimer, a document that states that you understand what is involved in a homebirth and you will not sue the midwife for malpractice if a natural issue occurs during your labor or birth.

Consent Form
You will have to sign a form that gives your midwife permission to act as your midwife.

Additional Consent Form and Legal Disclaimer for a Vaginal Births After C-Section
If your homebirth is taking place after you have already had a c-section it will be likely that your midwife will have you sign a consent form as well as a legal disclaimer that states you know all of the risk that come with a home VBAC.

Birth Plan
You will likely either discuss and have an oral agreement of how you want things done at your birth or you will want to have it in writing and will fill out a birth plan.

Emergency Transfer Plan
When a midwife feels that there is a chance that your homebirth may lead to you needing to be transferred to a hospital you may have to fill out a birth plan for an emergency transfer before you go into labor.

You can ask you midwife about all of the paperwork that she requires personally and get it all out of the way long before you go into labor.

If you are planning to have an unassisted childbirth there will be certain forms of paperwork that you will have to fill out. Once again depending on the state that you have your baby in will greatly affect how much more you may have but generally what you can expect is the following.

Paperwork for an Unassisted Childbirth

Proof of Prenatal Care From a State Licensed Health Professional - You will likely need some sort of written proof that you were pregnant. Prenatal records that you may have or a letter that you request from a licensed health professional, such as a chiropractor or ob/gyn, should work.

Notarized A - You and someone who was present at the birth and witnessed the birth of your child, most likely your partner, will have to sign a Notarized A to state that the birth of your newborn baby was witnessed and did in fact happen.

Proof of Your Baby Being Born From a State Licensed Health Professional - If you take you baby in for a checkup at a hospital you can use the records of the check up as proof or once again you can request a letter from a state licensed health professional that saw you before labor and after birth and saw your baby to prove that you did actually give birth.

Most of the paperwork that you need to fill out for an unassisted birth will not need to be filled out until your baby is born. Be sure to look up and see if your state laws require you to have proof from a state licensed health professional that you were pregnant before you have your baby.

doulala
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM

 

 

The Ins and Outs of Birth Certificates

by Laura Shanley

The fear of not being able to get a birth certificate keeps some couples from having an unassisted childbirth (UC). This is unfortunate, as in all the years I've been writing about UC, I've never known anyone who has been unable to get one. Yes, sometimes the government makes you jump through some hoops, but in the end they give you that piece of paper. This is because, like it or not, the government wants you to be registered. They like to keep track of their constituents.

Of course, some couples simply choose not to register their children. I considered going this route but ultimately decided against it. The fact is, it's difficult (though not impossible) to live in this society without a birth certificate. A friend of mine has never registered her children. Consequently, she pays higher taxes (she can't deduct them) and has been unable to take them out of the country for long periods of time due to passport problems. We all have our battles to fight and for me, the birth certificate battle just isn't worth it. But, to each her own.

The best thing to do when planning a UC is to check with your local health department. If you are told that you can't get a birth certificate with a UC, ask to speak to a supervisor. It's best to remain calm and friendly, regardless of the attitude of the person you are speaking to. Some people are shocked by the idea of UC and will try to talk you out of it. They may even tell you it's illegal. Over 99% of the time they're wrong.

In some states or countries proof of pregnancy is required. A positive pregnancy test from a clinic usually does the trick, although I've known some people who have provided this proof without ever going to "officialdom." Friends or family can often vouch for the fact that you were indeed pregnant. One woman I know brought her birth tape to the health department as evidence. No one questioned its validity.

Although I don't believe we should fear the "authorities," I do recommend that couples not rush to get a birth certificate after the birth of the baby. If the health department does insist on seeing the child prior to issuing the certificate, it's better they see a fat, healthy, happily nursing, one-month-old than a baby who is fresh out of the womb. Many people assume that newborns are fragile and in need of medical attention in spite of the fact that there's nothing wrong with them.

Here are some statements from women in the UC community. As you will see, the laws vary from state to state (birth certificate information available on the UC board at Parent's Place) and even from county to county. Hopefully their comments will help dispel the myth that obtaining a birth certificate is difficult after a UC. Happy birthing!

"To get our birth certificate we need proof of residency, proof of pregnancy either from a doc or close friend or anyone except the parents, identification, and a statement from the person delivering the child about how much it weighed and all that good stuff. Everything except the identification has to be notarized."

"Well, I haven't had my UC yet, but according to the law and the lady at the b/c office, I only need a form stating that that person was at the birth of (insert baby's name) and the date and time he/she was born. It can be signed either by the doctor, midwife, father or mother. I asked if proof of pregnancy was needed and got a 'no.' But I don't know for certain until we go ahead and try to get one after it has happened."

"I got Jason's birth certificate without proof of pregnancy, but it was a hassle. In Oklahoma, our home state, all you have to do is walk into the health department and fill out a quick form. In Indiana, where we were living when Jason was born, they wanted not proof of pregnancy but written proof of a doctor's exam of me AND the baby postpartum as well as proof of a PKU test being performed (oh, and proof of residency). So we just made sure Jason was born at his granny's house in Oklahoma (wink wink)."

"I called the vital statistics office (Washington state) for information about filing for a birth certificate and, after being told SEVERAL times that the doctor or midwife handles that, I got an answer. (I don't think she wanted to tell me.) If the baby is less than 10 days old, all they need is ID, proof of address, mom's signature and father's (or partner's) witness. If the baby is over 10 days old, they also need a doctor's bill or letter on "official" letterhead. If you ask me, a 9 day old baby looks a lot like a 12 day old baby ; )"

"Regarding your question as to whether anyone had gotten a birth certificate without providing proof of pregnancy, it may be harder to make a list of legal states than you think. Why? Because as an example, a friend of mine and I live in the state of Illinois, but she was required to provide proof of pregnancy, and I was not. I hope this won't mean that you'll have to get the rules for each county in our nation!"

"In CA the only way for a UC to get a birth certificate is to petition the court, swear to the facts of birth, pay $32 and get a court ordered fact of live birth, give them another $19 and they send that and a court order for delayed registration of live birth to the state health department which sends you a certified copy of the registration - a.k.a., a birth certificate. No proof of anything other than your willingness to swear to the facts of birth as you've stated them and your willingness to be held legally accountable and punishable under all federal, state and local laws should you be found to have procured this statement using falsehoods. It does make it go much more smoothly if you provide backup "proof" but I just submitted a photo of me at my baby shower, obviously pregnant, and a copy of the chiropractor bill from when my son was 6 days old and I went in for a post-natal adjustment."

"UC is still legal in Alberta but there have been some rumors that some midwives in particular are wanting to make it illegal for anyone but a doctor or a registered midwife to deliver a baby. I am keeping my eyes open on that one and the first sign of it I will round up some people and fight it with everything I've got. I don't think it would succeed though...I mean, how is one supposed to control something like that? I don't see how they could enforce it. If all else fails we can say 'Oops, didn't make it to the hospital!' It was very easy getting a birth certificate. No one asked any questions and when we registered Sin�ad's birth no one blinked an eye when we put Kim's name under 'who delivered the baby.' Though I was half tempted to change that to me, as all he did was catch her. :)"

"In Portugal it is quite simple to get a certificate, even if homebirths are extinct. It's usual to show a document the doctor signs at the hospital and people think it's required by law, but it's not. What is required by law is only the identifications of both parents. I also had to show proof of my home address because the one in the ID was my mother's house (any other legal document or receipt will do)."

mom2ellasophia
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM

 I am no help but I wanted to tell you that you didnt deserve any of that. I hope you get the answers you are looking for, and I congratulate you on your choice!

krayzbabylove
by on Apr. 23, 2011 at 7:11 AM
I am all for home birth but you need to have a midwife there, just on case there is a complication ya know. If yoy choose not to, make sure you have very quick access to the hospital, and yes go in ASAP, after delivery
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