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There is NO natural induction method. Once you try something to force baby out, that is UNnatural. Yes even EPO, Nipple Stim and sex in order to bring upon labor is UNnatural.**yes sex, if you are having sex to force baby out that is induction. if you are just having sex cuz you want to have sex with your partner and just happen to go into labor that is different, we are talking about you purposely doing something to cause labor to begin** 

If your body needs help to get baby out, that is UNnatural.

Babies need to stay as long as THEY want. NOT as long as you want. The fact is you will ONLY go into labor when the BABY has released a chemical/hormone that signals that the babies lungs have matured. If you force baby out before then you run the risk of your child being born too soon (yes even if you are 40wks there can be complications due to lung maturity,etc)

Also those last few weeks and days are crucial to brain development. Why deprive your baby of everything it needs so you can be comfortable or not go past a certain day. 

And seriously, i cannot tell you how many times ive seen this comment, in this group, this past week-
"baby can get too big"

Um wrong! you will never grow a baby too big for your body to birth UNLESS you have a pelvic deformity or previous trauma to your pelvis. It just isnt going to happen. Your body knows what to do, women have been giving birth for thousands of years, the whole "too big to deliver" crap has only been around for maybe 50 years.

LET YOUR BABY COME WHEN YOUR BABY IS READY!

Seriously ladies, this is a natural birth and parenting group. LEARN about what natural birth really is. Until then......


**apparently this post needs a disclaimer... this is not talking about preemies or true medically indicated inductions or csections are needed, this is the im full term and baby isnt here yet and im impatient and want to have baby now type of cases. those cases suck, been there done that, but that still doesnt mean you've had a natural birth. birth is only natural when you've done nothing to help it along. end of story.

**** do you really need to get into semantics here ladies? how about this... do nothing but let your body and your baby decide when baby is born. thats all you need to do. pretty freaking simple. that is natural, that is normal. anything else and its no longer natural.   

by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 8:29 AM
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mybabyapples
by Member on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM
I went into labor before my babies lungs were mature.
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TrentsMom84
by Silver Member on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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The point that I think people are missing is this group is about natural birth-so posts asking about how to induce labor are just as bothersome as someone asking their doctor to induce.  The intent is to end pregnancy before it has reached it's own natural conclusion.  If you really want a natural childbirth you have to respect your body and trust that it knows what it's doing.

haleykj
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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That's absurd. I don't think your secret hopes of labor are going to harm the baby. If baby wasn't ready and u had sex (whether or not u secretly hoped baby would come) baby wouldn't come.


Quoting lundaylove:

having sex purely to go into labor to me makes an UNnatural birth. the mother has done something to put herself into labor, that is not natural. Now if you had sex because you wanted to have sex with your partner and just happened to go into labor thats fine because it was not with the intention of inducing, kwim?

Quoting VintageWife:

I don't agree with the sex thing but oh well. I mean if someone has sex cause they want to and another person has sex cause they secretly hope they'll go into labor, you are saying one of them didn't have a natural birth?!?


And there have been people saying a baby can get too big? I haven't noticed that. Were they all in one thread? *Goes lurking*



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hapababies
by Silver Member on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Lol!


Quoting peaches_04:

Agree

And who would want to be shitting their brains out during labor

I never understood that one




Quoting jellyphish:

Yup. Castor oil and the herbs/oils I know about are no good, I always suggest against them. (RRL is not one of those herbs, btw.)


Especially castor- it destroys our insides and works the same way drinking dish soap would!






Quoting rena_goldmoon:





Quoting jellyphish:

There is no such thing as induction by natural means (with the exception of a few herbs/oils).



Sex will not induce, it prepares. Same is true for epo. Walking stimulates contractions, but won't induce. Even energy work like acupuncture and reflexology will not induce labor in a healthy woman, all they do is balance her energy to help ensure her body is doing what it needs to do- even if that means more waiting- and make for a smoothly l&d.



The fact is, our bodies are more in tuned to nature than we think, and will not go into labor given natural means of induction.



So relax, let your bp fall back down. You're probably not going to convince any late-term woman to stop walking, having sex, or taking supplements, and to sit on her ass all day waiting for baby; frankly that's not healthy either.

I agree. Even a lot of medically induced inductions are not effective hence some c-sections. The biggest thing here I think would be side affects of some desperate "natural" induction methods. For instance my mom took Castor oil with my baby sister and had diarrhea so bad she ended up so exhausted and dehydrated she almost had no strength to make it through the actual labor and I'm sure that wasn't the only side effect. I don't think we can bring labor on unless we do something drastic (although some of it might not seem drastic at the time) that literally forces our bodies into action and again sometimes that just brings on hard labor and no actual progression. Our bodies are made to protect these little ones and will continue to do so unless forced otherwise. I think anything that would force actual labor would have other bad side effects considering our bodies and baby wouldn't be ready. So what ever was happening would be working against our bodies. I am also against any form of induction and I see what your saying. Its more the mindset and obviously going out of your way then the actual method but I don't think sex or walking would actually cause labor unless you completely sent your body into distress. Which isn't likely. I do think that the "I need this baby out soon" mindset could set you up for trying the more drastic methods though and I don't think we should encourage the seemingly innocent methods unless done for preporation rather then induction. Sorry. This was very long and probably not very clear.


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haleykj
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:52 PM
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I see what you're saying. But if I was at 42 weeks and drs were talking induction, I would do everything in my power to avoid pit. Or cervadel or whatever they give u. And if my baby was in danger (not due to size but things CAN happen) I wouldn't want a bunch of judgemental ladies to feed me that "you're not natural" line of crap. Baby comes first. The point of natural labor is to avoid dangers to the baby and there is a poit where baby is in danger.


Quoting TrentsMom84:

The point that I think people are missing is this group is about natural birth-so posts asking about how to induce labor are just as bothersome as someone asking their doctor to induce.  The intent is to end pregnancy before it has reached it's own natural conclusion.  If you really want a natural childbirth you have to respect your body and trust that it knows what it's doing.


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jellyphish
by Platinum Member on Apr. 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM
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This is what I'm thinking too. Mws often can't attend births after X number of weeks, or gd COULD cause large babies, etc. There are sometimes reasons to induce, just like there are sometimes reasons c/s become necessary. A blanket statement that anyone looking for natural ways to induce is not natural enough is a bit too judgmental.

Quoting haleykj:

I see what you're saying. But if I was at 42 weeks and drs were talking induction, I would do everything in my power to avoid pit. Or cervadel or whatever they give u. And if my baby was in danger (not due to size but things CAN happen) I wouldn't want a bunch of judgemental ladies to feed me that "you're not natural" line of crap. Baby comes first. The point of natural labor is to avoid dangers to the baby and there is a poit where baby is in danger.




Quoting TrentsMom84:

The point that I think people are missing is this group is about natural birth-so posts asking about how to induce labor are just as bothersome as someone asking their doctor to induce.  The intent is to end pregnancy before it has reached it's own natural conclusion.  If you really want a natural childbirth you have to respect your body and trust that it knows what it's doing.


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danie24
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 4:01 PM
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I disagree.

Things like sex and walking are natural. Somethings they bring on labour, sometimes not.

Just because a woman may have extra sex at 41 weeks gestation with the hopes of bringing on labour doesn't mean labour didn't occur naturally. It did.
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TTC2Long
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Amen, sister.
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danie24
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM
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Why would doing healthy, natural things be bothersome?

My daughter was born at 28 weeks naturally. Should have I just respected my body and trust that it knows what it was doing? Or do everythig in my power (natural and medical) to keep her in longer?

I am as natural and crunchy as it gets.. but I think some women are reaching just a little bit when they're making moms feel guilty for doing natural, healthy things that happen to possibly bring on labour.

It's Ok to have sex all through your pregnancy.. but if at 42 weeks you crank your sex life up a notch in hopes of bringing on labour is somehow "bothersome"? That's silly.


Quoting TrentsMom84:

The point that I think people are missing is this group is about natural birth-so posts asking about how to induce labor are just as bothersome as someone asking their doctor to induce.  The intent is to end pregnancy before it has reached it's own natural conclusion.  If you really want a natural childbirth you have to respect your body and trust that it knows what it's doing.

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airadan
by on Apr. 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM
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There is a large level of fear instilled in women when it comes to birth, its been going on for generations. Fact remains, just like every aspect of life, things do occasionally go awry. That does not make birth inherently dangerous, and there is no viable reason to place women in boxes. We know we are different, so to have every care provider get antsy as we approach our due dates is asinine.  Women need to be encouraged to resolve fears and gestate peacefully during the last weeks.

Steph is right, there is no natural induction. Women need to scrap the EDD and relax. The female form is amazing and left to run its course the research proves the out comes are better.

Deaths associated with birth from past generations were due in large part to sanitation, nutrition and other preventable complications. If birth were so dangerous we would not have survived as a species.  This is not to say that things don't go wrong, but it is not the norm.

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