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VinniesMa

Sep. 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM by VinniesMa
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Not to beat a dead horse but this is interesting; and yes, I did find it on Perez Hilton, but it's still probably true......

The Associated Press closely watched Governor Sarah Palin, the GOP's VP pick, at last night's RNC convention and has outlined the many ways she exaggerated and lied.

Right or Left, a lie is a lie. It doesn't matter where on the political spectrum you are, right?

These are not 'personal' digs, mind you.

She's lying on the 'professional' stage, y'all.

Check out Pinocchio Palin's claims and the truth:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

The AP report also showed how Palin's champions have exaggerated the Alaskan governor's 'acheivements':

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply … She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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Rebeccalynn_dj

by Rebeccalynn_dj on Sep. 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM

The AP is about as legitimate a source as you can get. It's good to see that someone in the media actually fact-checked her speech while most of the pundits were busy falling all over themselves praising it.

VinniesMa

by VinniesMa on Sep. 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM

That's what I thought, and I'm still seeing other things on MSNBC that aren't even on this list. McCain is doing pretty well...... he's def. not as smug!! I've decided that after thinking and remembering Palin's speech, so far, I don't like her attitude.  

vintagemom45

by vintagemom45 on Sep. 5, 2008 at 10:59 AM

I do not like this woman's stand on gun control, abortion, sex education (or the lack thereof), the environment, drilling in Alaska, trying to keep the polar bears off the endangered list, etc., etc.  I also think she's extremely arrogant and find it frightening that she could end up President if McCain were to die in office.  I hope that the McCain/Palin ticket goes down quickly.

DrTink

by DrTink on Sep. 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM

I agree she is bad news for our country. I hope her daughter is ready to be a teenage mother in the public eye.

Just imagine if.....she actually wanted to NOT get married, and give her baby up for addoption and try to make a better life for herself not to mention if how she feels about abortion.

Whew forced into a life without choice. Glad Sarah's not my mother so I for sure don't want her in the White House. Send her back to Alaska.

Sabrina

sandeetraveler

by sandeetraveler on Sep. 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I want to thank you ladies for seeing Sarah for what she really is. I have been reading poltical boards and it just makes me sick. The neocons love her. That is because they really don't like McCain but they were hanging on to him because they hate Obama.  Now they really love Sarah. 

I hope America is smarter than they were in the last two elections and I hope Palin loses the shock value of her speech really quickly .

huskermom3boys

by huskermom3boys on Sep. 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM

Amen to all of that!  I hope the country realizes quickly that it is not progress to vote in a person just because of her gender or lack of color and to go do some fact checking for yourself before blindly voting.  I receieved an email (in a group of about 20 other people) outlining some outrageous facts about the campaigns.  I went directly to fact checkers, which had a story on that very email and the truth behind it.  And it wasn't all completely favorable to the Obama party - just the truth.  I replied back to All with a link in the hopes that at least a couple of people would actually read it.

Rebeccalynn_dj

by Rebeccalynn_dj on Sep. 5, 2008 at 6:35 PM

I have to say that I am Pro-life and very much so.  I also agree with getting to opt out of sex ed classes, but see why they are necessary.  I don't agree with her on much pro-life democrat I am.

I find that the teen girl is a shame but every baby is a blessing.  I am understanding on this issue because I know very few people who were virgins when they got married.  Those people that were not really can't point fingers.  They just got lucky. 

 

VinniesMa

by VinniesMa on Sep. 5, 2008 at 11:53 PM

It's all crazy..... And here's somthing else I found from Dr. Laura, some Republican radio host. I'm glad I found someone who feels the same way about Palin and that whole situation as I do; except I'm a Democrat!

Sarah Palin and Motherhood

September 2, 2008 on 1:35 pm | In Children, Election, Sarah Palin, Working Women Email This Post Email This Post

I am extremely disappointed in the choice of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate of the Republican Party.  I will still vote for Senator McCain, because I am very concerned about having a fundamental leftist, especially one who is a marvelous orator, as President.

At first, I thought it amusing that McCain picked a pretty, smart, and tough female to counter the racist/sexist accusations going back and forth between parties.  I remember how Oprah Winfrey got caught in the cross-fire as she stepped up to the political table to support Obama with pride that a black man could rise to such heights in the USA, only to get slammed by feminists who told her it was gender, not race, that she should back.  Understandably, Ms. Winfrey pulled back from it all.

Forget gender and race.  I’m frankly and sadly caught in the dilemma of having to balance policy versus example in touting a candidate for the office of the First Family.  I was ferociously attacked (what’s new?) when I spoke out strongly against Bill Clinton’s dalliances in the Oval Office.  That situation quickly turned into a debate whether “private has anything to do with public.”  Nonsense.  Role models are very important.  Children and young adults look to those who are visible and successful as a road map of what is acceptable behavior and emulate those actions over the morals and values their parents and churches have taught and tried to reinforce.  It’s a tough go these days, when the “bad that men or women do” is used for entertainment purposes without judgment, or is excused because of political or financial considerations.

I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain?   I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age.  But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

I am haunted by the family pictures of the Palins during political photo-ops, showing the eldest daughter, now pregnant with her own child, cuddling the family’s newborn.  When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation.  Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and you’re on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, where’s your attention going to be?  Where should your attention be?  Well, once you put your hand on the Bible and make that oath, your attention has to be with the government of the United States of America.

I am positively moved that neither Sarah nor her daughter were willing to terminate the lives of their unborn children.  This is in sharp contrast to Obama’s statement that “When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include…which should include abstinence education and teaching children…teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual.  But it should also include - it should also include other, you know, information about contraception, because, look, I’ve got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old.  I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals.  But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” (March, 2008)

So, one Vice Presidential candidate and her daughter demonstrate, under conditions of great stress, that babies are valued human beings, not punishment.  However, that same VP candidate came forth in April of 2008 with a proclamation for “Family Child Care Week,” in which she wrote: “These professionals are positive role models for the children they care for and the communities they serve.”  Clearly, Palin sees the need for positive role models.  I suggest that they be Mommy and Daddy, and not the hired help.

Child-care facilities are a necessity when mothers and fathers (when they exist at all) are unwilling or incapable of caring for their offspring.  Unfortunately, they have become a mainstay of the feminista mentality that nothing should stand in the way of a woman’s ambition - nothing, including her family.

Any full-time working wife and mother knows that the family takes the short end of the stick.  Marriages and the welfare of children suffer when a stressed-out mother doesn’t have time to be a woman, a wife, and a hands-on Mommy.

Rebeccalynn_dj

by Rebeccalynn_dj on Sep. 6, 2008 at 12:12 AM

I can't stand Dr Laura.  I agree with her one point.  That is that Sarah will not make a good vice president.  Other than that I have always thought she was full of hogwash.  I think most Conservatives like her though.  Am I wrong?  I am wondering what the conservatives thing of what she said.

VinniesMa

by VinniesMa on Sep. 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM

I bet they're pissed but secretly want to agree with her!

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