Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)

6: Now Giants Were Upon the Earth in Those Days

Posted by on Mar. 11, 2012 at 9:52 AM
  • 39 Replies
  • 1355 Total Views

1And after that men began to be multiplied upon the earth, and daughters were born to them.

    2The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took themselves wives of all which they chose.

    3And God said: My spirit shall not remain in man for ever, because he is flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.

    4Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

    5And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times,

    6It repented him that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart,

    7He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8But Noe found grace before the Lord.

    9These are the generations of Noe: Noe was a just and perfect man in his generations, he walked with God.

    10And he begot three sons, Sem, Cham, and Japheth.

    11And the earth was corrupted before God, and was filled with iniquity.

    12And when God had seen that the earth was corrupted (for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth,)

    13He said to Noe: The end of all flesh is come before me, the earth is filled with iniquity through them, and I will destroy them with the earth.

    14Make thee an ark of timber planks: thou shalt make little rooms in the ark, and thou shalt pitch it within and without.

    15And thus shalt thou make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits: the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

    16Thou shalt make a window in the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish the top of it: and the door of the ark thou shalt set in the side: with lower, middle chambers, and third stories shalt thou make it.

    17Behold I will bring the waters of a great flood upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, under heaven. All things that are in the earth shall be consumed.

    18And I will establish my covenant with thee, and thou shalt enter into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and the wives of thy sons with thee.

    19And of every living creature of all flesh, thou shalt bring two of each sort into the ark, that they may live with thee: of the male sex, and the female.

    20Of fowls according to their kind, and of beasts in their kind, and of every thing that creepeth on earth according to its kind; two of every sort shall go in with thee, that they may live.

    21Thou shalt take unto thee of all food that may be eaten, and thou shalt lay it up with thee: and it shall be food for thee and them.

    22And Noe did all things which God commanded him.

by on Mar. 11, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Replies (1-10):
LilyofPhilly
by Advanced Athiest on Mar. 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM
2 moms liked this
This reads so child-like. All Noah needs is a boat, one door, one window, 2 of each "kind" of animal-voila!
How adults take this literally is beyond me.
Posted on CafeMom Mobile
ashellbell
by Amazing Athiest on Mar. 12, 2012 at 10:45 AM
It's so weird reading this story as a non believer. Seems so silly.
Posted on CafeMom Mobile
123Kathy
by sr debate team on Mar. 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM

 

sticky Bible Study/Debate 6: Now Giants Were Upon the Earth in Those Days

1And after that men began to be multiplied upon the earth, and daughters were born to them.

    2The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took themselves wives of all which they chose.Katthy-I believe  sons of God are not human beings at all. Agree or disagree?

    3And God said: My spirit shall not remain in man for ever, because he is flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.Kathy-after the God's spirit left this world. The people only had the prophets to rely God's message  to his people. What is the spirit differance in people's lives? Why we need God's spirit in our lives?

    4Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.Kathy- Goliath was giant. The son of God was having babies with the human women. Do think this practise stopped after the flood?

    5And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times,

    6It repented him that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart,

    7He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8But Noe found grace before the Lord.Kathy-I wonder what made Noe special?

    9These are the generations of Noe: Noe was a just and perfect man in his generations, he walked with God.  Noe was walking and listening to God.

    10And he begot three sons, Sem, Cham, and Japheth.

    11And the earth was corrupted before God, and was filled with iniquity.

    12And when God had seen that the earth was corrupted (for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth,)

    13He said to Noe: The end of all flesh is come before me, the earth is filled with iniquity through them, and I will destroy them with the earth.

    14Make thee an ark of timber planks: thou shalt make little rooms in the ark, and thou shalt pitch it within and without.

    15And thus shalt thou make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits: the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

    16Thou shalt make a window in the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish the top of it: and the door of the ark thou shalt set in the side: with lower, middle chambers, and third stories shalt thou make it.

    17Behold I will bring the waters of a great flood upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, under heaven. All things that are in the earth shall be consumed.

    18And I will establish my covenant with thee, and thou shalt enter into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and the wives of thy sons with thee.

    19And of every living creature of all flesh, thou shalt bring two of each sort into the ark, that they may live with thee: of the male sex, and the female.

    20Of fowls according to their kind, and of beasts in their kind, and of every thing that creepeth on earth according to its kind; two of every sort shall go in with thee, that they may live.That means only 2 flies?         I didn't realize all the bugs has be on the ark too.

    21Thou shalt take unto thee of all food that may be eaten, and thou shalt lay it up with thee: and it shall be food for thee and them.

    22And Noe did all things which God commanded him.

I like this story but you really think this feasible? If it happen exactly how the story said. All the animals for all over the whole world has be there. Do you think only 5 people can really take of all there needs. Some animals live in the Arctic regions. How they can live where there is too warm? Monkey's, poisonous animals, What about all the land. After the flood, we still have weeds, flowers. God needed to  replant the whole world. Every living died in the flood. No more trees at all. So the ark had to hold enough food for years until everything regrew again. After they left the ark. There was any food outside of the ark. I wonder who many years would take to  started everything again?


123Kathy
by sr debate team on Mar. 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM


Quoting ashellbell:

It's so weird reading this story as a non believer. Seems so silly.

I am believer, and I think this sounds little out there too.  It don't make many sense how this could happen. Than I think about how much imagination for one person to just make up a story like this. Kinda funny to think about.


ashellbell
by Amazing Athiest on Mar. 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM
So, do you take the bible as literal or lean more towards it being symbolic?


Quoting 123Kathy:



Quoting ashellbell:

It's so weird reading this story as a non believer. Seems so silly.

I am believer, and I think this sounds little out there too.  It don't make many sense how this could happen. Than I think about how much imagination for one person to just make up a story like this. Kinda funny to think about.


Posted on CafeMom Mobile
LilyofPhilly
by Advanced Athiest on Mar. 12, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Notice that there is no mention of bringing bacteria or viruses on the ark. Their survival would have conflicted with the animals' and people's survival anyway, as some of them would have been deadly. Also, what about mold, mildew, fungus?

123Kathy
by sr debate team on Mar. 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM


Quoting LilyofPhilly:

Notice that there is no mention of bringing bacteria or viruses on the ark. Their survival would have conflicted with the animals' and people's survival anyway, as some of them would have been deadly. Also, what about mold, mildew, fungus?


Double Yuck! I don't like anything like this. Gross! You know, it takes lots of faith to believe in God. Everything is is so magical. So mysterious about God.   On the other human being are  little complex too.

I like this idea, Ok- try to explain what is a God to alien. Than try to explain what is human being to an alien.

Than explain  what is Heaven to an alien. Than also try to explain living on this earth is like.

God made humans. Humans are made in God's image.  He is the creator. We are created ones.

I am telling you, I live on this earth. It is OK, but little scarysometimes. Maybe really scarry sometimes. I don't think an alien would like live here to much.

Heaven is describe a place full Love and Peace.

The Alien  would have be  so confused :-)

So I guess my point is. We cannot  never figure out  all the answers about the flood. I have to accept this though being an fact. Because I am not accepting  everything in the whole bible. I feel like if I start dissect the bible enough. Than It would  turn in a  useless book. I like the bible. I said that before.


AdellesMom
by on Mar. 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM
2 moms liked this

It's not about taking it "literally." It's about the moral of the story. The entire story. Not just those scriptures in the OP. Who was Noah? What did he accomplish? What does this tell us about God's judgment? 

Those are the questions that come about. I attend church faithfully. We don't nit-pick at Bible Stories, and say "There's no way that could've happened!" We look at the moral of the story. Besides, the Bible says that with God, ANYTHING is possible. What may seem like impossible to us, is possible for Him.

LilyofPhilly
by Advanced Athiest on Mar. 13, 2012 at 9:25 AM
3 moms liked this


Quoting 123Kathy:


Quoting LilyofPhilly:

Notice that there is no mention of bringing bacteria or viruses on the ark. Their survival would have conflicted with the animals' and people's survival anyway, as some of them would have been deadly. Also, what about mold, mildew, fungus?


Double Yuck! I don't like anything like this. Gross! You know, it takes lots of faith to believe in God. Everything is is so magical. So mysterious about God.   On the other human being are  little complex too.

I like this idea, Ok- try to explain what is a God to alien. Than try to explain what is human being to an alien.

Than explain  what is Heaven to an alien. Than also try to explain living on this earth is like.

God made humans. Humans are made in God's image.  He is the creator. We are created ones.

I am telling you, I live on this earth. It is OK, but little scarysometimes. Maybe really scarry sometimes. I don't think an alien would like live here to much.

Heaven is describe a place full Love and Peace.

The Alien  would have be  so confused :-)

So I guess my point is. We cannot  never figure out  all the answers about the flood. I have to accept this though being an fact. Because I am not accepting  everything in the whole bible. I feel like if I start dissect the bible enough. Than It would  turn in a  useless book. I like the bible. I said that before.

So because you like the Bible, and don't want it to turn into a "useless book", you'll just accept whatever you read in it as fact? The Bible would still make for a good story book, and would still give us insight into the lives of the people of its time, without our taking it as a historical record. 

It seems to me that one has to deny logic and reason to believe what's written in the Bible. 

LilyofPhilly
by Advanced Athiest on Mar. 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM


Quoting AdellesMom:

It's not about taking it "literally." It's about the moral of the story. The entire story. Not just those scriptures in the OP. Who was Noah? What did he accomplish? What does this tell us about God's judgment? 

Those are the questions that come about. I attend church faithfully. We don't nit-pick at Bible Stories, and say "There's no way that could've happened!" We look at the moral of the story. Besides, the Bible says that with God, ANYTHING is possible. What may seem like impossible to us, is possible for Him.

I must say, I don't particularly care for the moral of this story either. God creates imperfect people, then when they don't do what he wants, he drowns 99% of them, along with innocent animals????

Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)