please read etopic pregnacey removel please help

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  • tink19873
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 1:45 PM
• ok thank you so much this is helpful and reasuuring i hope im not bothering you im just so scared about my angel
  

  Quoting fairygirl13:
  
  this might help to. please not that the HcG levels are from O NOT LMP.
  
  
  

  Day after HCG or LH	Average mIU/ml	High mIU/ml	Low mIU/ml	#
  14	48	119	17	12
  15	59	147	17	18
  16	95	223	33	23
  17	132	429	17	21
  18	292	758	70	19
  19	303	514	111	23
  20	522	1690	135	13
  21	1061	4130	324	12
  22	1287	3279	185	22
  23	2034	4660	506	13
  24	2637	10000	540	16

  
  
  and this was 5w4d ultra sound, which would be a HcG around 24days as per the above chart. if your HcG is only 750, dont worry. this ultrasound below, had the last #'s on the chart, so the average HcG was 2637.
  
  
  

  Ultrasound in early pregnancy: 5.5 weeks from last menstrual period

  
  Transvaginal ultrasound of a normal pregnancy at 5 weeks 4 days of gestation
  

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  • ariesp19
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 1:47 PM
• cramping is normal... i had it.... lots of pregos do... and they told me my leveals with both my sons were low...
  really low with this one.....
  i even bled with aidan....
  there are sooo many possibilities..... gosh, at 6 weeks the er would not even try a us, cause it was so early.....
  

  Quoting tink19873:
  
  so then some slight cramps may be normal?

  

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  • fairygirl13
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 1:48 PM
• no your not bothering me! i love helping, i would have never learned this much if i didnt have the exact same feelings as you are having.
  
  below the quotes, i put the next week just to show how much happens in a week.
  

  Quoting tink19873:
  
  ok thank you so much this is helpful and reasuuring i hope im not bothering you im just so scared about my angel
  

  Quoting fairygirl13:
  
  this might help to. please not that the HcG levels are from O NOT LMP.
  
  
  

  Day after HCG or LH	Average mIU/ml	High mIU/ml	Low mIU/ml	#
  14	48	119	17	12
  15	59	147	17	18
  16	95	223	33	23
  17	132	429	17	21
  18	292	758	70	19
  19	303	514	111	23
  20	522	1690	135	13
  21	1061	4130	324	12
  22	1287	3279	185	22
  23	2034	4660	506	13
  24	2637	10000	540	16

  
  
  and this was 5w4d ultra sound, which would be a HcG around 24days as per the above chart. if your HcG is only 750, dont worry. this ultrasound below, had the last #'s on the chart, so the average HcG was 2637.
  
  
  

  Ultrasound in early pregnancy: 5.5 weeks from last menstrual period

  
  Transvaginal ultrasound of a normal pregnancy at 5 weeks 4 days of gestation
  

  
  
  
  

  Ultrasound in early pregnancy: 6.5 weeks from last menstrual period

  

  The same pregnancy as shown on the other page - exactly 1 week after last image
  Now at 6 weeks 4 days of gestation
  
  
  
  a ton happends in a short amount of time in the early pregnancy stages.

  
  

  

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  • tink19873
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 1:49 PM
• ok i fell better an a lil less scared now thanks ladies

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  • tink19873
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 1:51 PM
• wow what a big difference maybe im 3 weeks and it was to early to see but even if i was five weeks it was still a little early to see also
  

  Quoting fairygirl13:
  
  no your not bothering me! i love helping, i would have never learned this much if i didnt have the exact same feelings as you are having.
  
  below the quotes, i put the next week just to show how much happens in a week.
  

  Quoting tink19873:
  
  ok thank you so much this is helpful and reasuuring i hope im not bothering you im just so scared about my angel
  

  Quoting fairygirl13:
  
  this might help to. please not that the HcG levels are from O NOT LMP.
  
  
  

  Day after HCG or LH	Average mIU/ml	High mIU/ml	Low mIU/ml	#
  14	48	119	17	12
  15	59	147	17	18
  16	95	223	33	23
  17	132	429	17	21
  18	292	758	70	19
  19	303	514	111	23
  20	522	1690	135	13
  21	1061	4130	324	12
  22	1287	3279	185	22
  23	2034	4660	506	13
  24	2637	10000	540	16

  
  
  and this was 5w4d ultra sound, which would be a HcG around 24days as per the above chart. if your HcG is only 750, dont worry. this ultrasound below, had the last #'s on the chart, so the average HcG was 2637.
  
  
  

  Ultrasound in early pregnancy: 5.5 weeks from last menstrual period

  
  Transvaginal ultrasound of a normal pregnancy at 5 weeks 4 days of gestation
  

  
  
  
  

  Ultrasound in early pregnancy: 6.5 weeks from last menstrual period

  

  The same pregnancy as shown on the other page - exactly 1 week after last image
  Now at 6 weeks 4 days of gestation
  
  
  
  a ton happends in a short amount of time in the early pregnancy stages.

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  • tink19873
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 2:09 PM
• they said they thought it was tubal because they cant see the sac and my hcg levels was 750 and they said 750 was bad
  

  Quoting mom2_1princess:
  
  wow... the only thing I have to say is be careful of ER doctors and get in with your regular doctor to get a second opinion asap. In August 06 I had a similar situation, cramping, mostly on one side, right above my right ovary. I was not even 4 weeks along had taken an ept to confirm the pregnancy, and it was a faint faint positive. I went to the ER. They did an ultrasound and of course could not see the baby that early, but could see that I had an ovarian cyst (causing the pain). they did a hcg test and tried to tell me that my hcg levels were over 200,000! Based on that lab test, they diagnosed me as having an ectopic pregnancy. I argued with the doctor on how I thought that was impossible that my hcg levels were that high seeing as I had just taken the ept and it barely showed up. I thought the lab was wrong, but he gave me this arrogant attitude and "explained" how the hcg levels can act differently for ectopic pregnancies. He told me that they could do another hcg test but that there really wasnt time and basically that I could die if I waited for the test. Honestly, the way he talked to me was like he was this almighty all knowing doctor and I was an idiot. I agreed to do the surgery and then after I woke up from it, found out that I had a normal uterine, NOT tubal, pregnancy and an ovarian cyst. so AFTER surgery they decided to redo the labs. They redid the labs three times and found that the first one was wrong, my hcg was 210, not over 200,000... BUT... the kicker is that now that I had this laparoscopic surgery so early in pregnancy, I was at greater risk to miscarry, which I did exactly a week after surgery. I guess the moral of the story is that I went against my own instinct and allowed this jerkoff idiot er doctor to pressure me into something I didnt feel comfortable with and KNEW wasnt right.
  
  Did they explain to you WHY they think it's a tubal pregnancy? And why did you think you were 5 weeks, but they thought 3? When was your lmp? Go by that date, like everyone said.... and the hcg level of 750, from what I understand, is a normal level at 5 weeks. To answer your questions, I guess I dont know the symptoms of an actual tubal pregnancy, other than one sided pain... which, as I found out, could be due to an ovarian cyst or something else. I read on webmd that it is normal to get some lower pelvic cramping, but very mild, with normal pregnancies. My symptoms with the miscarriage were bleeding and the worst cramping in my life... not one sided or anything. The surgery itself was not bad, they do put you to sleep, you'll have a small incision in your belly button and maybe another one on your tummy.

  Quoting tink19873:
  
  the only symptom i have is slight shoulder pain but i dont no if its related it could be my mind playing tricks on me is it possible that im worrying so much that the shoulder pain i have is related from me stressing or freaking out
  

  Quoting fairygirl13:
  
  
  

  Quoting tink19873:
  
  i had some menstural like cramps no bleeding no spotting and the cramps was a bit uncomfortable not really painful but my hcg levels was 750 they said they should be like between 100- 10,000 and yes they said they think its a tubal
  

  they didnt see my sac until i was 6 weeks, and it was so small, that they could not "call it a sac" until it was large enough to register with a measurment. a week later, and not until my HcG was 10,000 were they able to see it, and say, "yes there is the baby". in that week, i had spotting, they gave me Prometrium, i had lots of cramping, and they checked my tubes, no tuble, just a slow grower at first in uterio. at that 7 week check, it went from almost sac to a sac, fetal pole, and heart beat.
  
  have your periods been reg, and do you know when you concieved?
  
  if you have a 28 day cycle, every time, go with the LMP date, for how far you are, if you dont have a normal cycle, then just give it some time and go with the 3 week guess, but they told me i would be due may 29, and i said, no i will be due before may 20, i know when i concieved. and sure enough, when baby was big enough to measure, i was told i was due May 18.
  
  
  
  with a HcG of 750, i would not even worry yet.

  
  

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  • tink19873
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 2:37 PM
• what is a lmp?
  

  Quoting mom2_1princess:
  
  well... 750 would be high for being 3 weeks along, but perfectly normal at 5 weeks.  when was your LMP?  Do they think that you may be three weeks from ovulation, or three weeks pregnant, because that would make a difference.  Just because they cant see it on an ultrasound, doesnt necessarily mean it's ectopic...  fyi they CAN see ectopic pregnancies on ultrasounds too.  They are supposed to be able to see pregnancies on ultrasound by 6 weeks or once the HCG reaches a certain level...  I'd give it a little while and then do another ultrasound.  On the flipside though, if it is actually ectopic, it can be dangerous, but honestly would most likely be very painful and you would KNOW. 

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  • McDonaldlnc
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
• when i went in for my first doctors visit with my daughter they didn't see her in my uterus either..they said but they did see something in fallopian tube.  They diagnosed an ectopic pregnancy and set me up for surgery the next morning at 5am..but that night my doctor called me and said my hgg levels were much to high for it to be ectopic so 2 days later i went back to the office and there she was in the sono!  they said i was probaby only 2 weeks pregnant or so and it was to early to see her in the sono.  I wish you luck..it is a very rare thing so i wouldnt worry to much until after a sono.  they go in through your belly button to remove it and are put to sleep..and signs of it usually consist of extreme cramping only on one side. 

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  • CappraAnn
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 2:45 PM
• When I was first pregnant maybe further along than you are I had EXTREME pain like I ws going to start my period but worse. I didnt know I was pregnant until I was about 6 weeks along. I never got an u/s. My doctor assured me that spotting and cramps are normal if they are frequent. now i am 17 weeks and doing great. maybe your problems could be the egg attaching to the wall because that can be painful and cause bleeding. If the pain presist than it might be ectopic. Hopefully you see your doctor soon and the baby soon!

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  • wowsies3
  on Mar. 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM
• I think your dr. is scaring you....for no reason.With my first born I was being treated for polycystic ovarian disease and endo,I had many ultra sounds(at the time 5 and half weeks along)and they totally missed my baby,we didnt find out I was pregnant till I was 8 weeks along.He didnt even show up on an ultra sound.I kept testing negative on preg tests and they never ordered a blood test,they gave me pills to start my period,I never took them(I think I knew deep down I was pregnant) Same thing happened with this baby ,I could not get a pos HPT until 2 weeks late.I think some woman just have low levels.....I'd just wait it out,If you dont have any of the classic ectopic symptoms,you are probely worried for nothing....I hope you find out soon so you can stop stressing,my goodness ,Id strangle my dr.-I dprobely go get a 2cd opinion asap...goodluck to you~~ERica

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