I have always been extremely careful not to make our TTC a chore. Hubby is still oblivious to OV, charting, etc. I have never ever used the phrase, I'm ovulating so we need to do it. (or anything remotely similar) The point of it is to keep it less stressful and less like our intimacy is predetermined only to the fact of reproducing. But it gets so frustrating. Last night was THE night, cm was perfect, (TMI i know) i could just feel it. So what does he do after my turning on the charm...he says no and falls asleep. While I might say some of my enthusiasm came from my recent ruby reading (which said either a pos test in sept, conception in sept, or baby in sept 2013....I was hoping for the first) I am just irked. His drive already is low (to put it nicely) and I don't pressure him. Last night I just rolled over and let myself be frustrated. Are any of you ladies out there in the same boat as far as not having your man be "all in" so to speak as far as planning times for BD and such? Or is it better just to tell him to buck it up and get with the program?