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unable to have solids..past 1 yr? OK ADDED INFO FOR EVERYONE!!!

Posted by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM
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my son has sever reflux and cant eat solids at all he can only tolerate breastmilk. and he may not be able to have anything other then it for a year or more. can he really be sustaind on breasmilk alone..past a year or two? he 9 months now

MY DS HAS SEVER REFLUX AND A TACTILE SENSITIVITY, SOLIDS OF ANY KIND MAKE HIM TROW UP A TON! NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. IF HE DOSE NOT HAVE ANYTHING BUT BREASTMILK HE DOSE SOOO MUCH BETTER AND ISENT IN AS MUCH PAIN, HES ON 8 DIFFRENT MEDICATIONS TO HELP CONTROLLE EVERYTHING WERE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR A GI SPEICIALIST FOR SCOPES, BIOPSYS AND OTHER TESTS. I KNOW SOLIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP BUT HE IS NOT LIKE MILD REFLUX BABIES HE HAS ALOT OF HEALTH PROBLEMS INCLUDING A HEART DEFECT, WITH SOLIDS HE CAN ASPERATE THEM AND IT CAN HURT AND MAKE HIM VERY VERY SICK. IM NOT DEPRIVING HIM, IM JUST ASKING A QUIESTION. WEVE ALREADY DISCUSED A G-TUBE. WERE ALL UNDER ENOUGH STRESS WITHOUT PEOPLE SAYING WERE DEPRIVING HIM AND ALL.


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by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM
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Arisce
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 2:09 AM

Yes, he can. As long as he nurses a lot he should be fine. I would have the DR check his B-12 and iron levels but he should be fine. My little sister didn't start solids until 18 months, and even then it was sporadic. She too had severe reflux. And food allergies. 

Gailll
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 7:12 AM

A year is too long to make it on breastmilk. You should have your baby checked now for anemia. It's important to have enough iron for brain growth and iron levels start to drop in breastfed babies not eating meat at around 9 mo. 

Ask for a consult to see a GI doc. GERD that bad will cause damage to his digestive system and he can even aspirate acid into his lungs and choke or get pneumonia. Either could be fatal. I've woke up at night choking on acid and its horrible.

My youngest son had tactile sensitivity issues and wouldn't eat. He was already being seen at a children's hospital for other problems. Breastfed babies will usually start having some problems around 9 mo without food. By 11-12 mo they may be FTT. My son was FTT by 12 mo and had to be hospitalized 3 weeks. It wasn't until his second hospitalization that the occupational therapist figured out it was sensitivity issues. It was the 80s before much was known about tactile sensitivities.

It sounds like your baby needs to have some tests done to see if surgery might be needed. If not, GERD should be treated with drugs. He needs to eat and there are foods he will be able to tolerate. If you can't get in to see a GI doctor in the next couple of weeks take him to the ER of a childrens' hospital when he is having a bad day. That will get his treatment started.

ShadowLark
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 7:46 AM

NOT true.  Babies who are bf do FINE without solids until a year AND LONGER.  In fact, even ff babies are just using solids as PRACTICE until a year old.  Their REAL nutrition comes from the FORMULA, NOT the solids.

YES, the GERD needs treatment, you're right about the aspiration risk.  But frocing solids will make the problem WORSE, not better.  Breast milk is a natural antacid.  And even a two year old can get enough nutrition from just nursing - they just nurse klike a newborn (constantly).  Mama HAS time to figure out the food issue WITHOUT putting her baby in MORE danger by forcing it.

As for the iron levels in bf infants, your info is VERY outdated.  Any baby who was properly nourished in the womb and was born full term has enough iron stores for AT LEAST 6 months.  Breast milk has VERY easily absorbed iron in it - which means that bf for another 6 months (exclusively) - EVEN IF YOU WEAN AT 6 MONTHS - gives the baby enough iron for an ADDITIONAL 6 months of life.  CONTINUING to bf past six months REPLENISHES any stores that are used up so that the baby CONTINUES to have enough iron for as long as the bf relationship continues.  (Until about two years of age, then you need to supplement.)

Now - are there issues that can interfere with that?  Yeah, sure - but in most healthy bf babies AND TODDLERS, iron levels are FINE.

Check out Kellymom.  GREAT info!

Quoting Gailll:

A year is too long to make it on breastmilk. You should have your baby checked now for anemia. It's important to have enough iron for brain growth and iron levels start to drop in breastfed babies not eating meat at around 9 mo. 

Ask for a consult to see a GI doc. GERD that bad will cause damage to his digestive system and he can even aspirate acid into his lungs and choke or get pneumonia. Either could be fatal. I've woke up at night choking on acid and its horrible.

My youngest son had tactile sensitivity issues and wouldn't eat. He was already being seen at a children's hospital for other problems. Breastfed babies will usually start having some problems around 9 mo without food. By 11-12 mo they may be FTT. My son was FTT by 12 mo and had to be hospitalized 3 weeks. It wasn't until his second hospitalization that the occupational therapist figured out it was sensitivity issues. It was the 80s before much was known about tactile sensitivities.

It sounds like your baby needs to have some tests done to see if surgery might be needed. If not, GERD should be treated with drugs. He needs to eat and there are foods he will be able to tolerate. If you can't get in to see a GI doctor in the next couple of weeks take him to the ER of a childrens' hospital when he is having a bad day. That will get his treatment started.


Gailll
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 7:46 AM

I just saw a reply you made about how your pumped milk looks. It sounds like you may be bottle feeding also. If you say you are EBF to most people that means only breastfeeding with no bottles. Anyway, bottle feeding can cause digestive upsets even if it's breastmilk. Of course you could be collecting milk for a milk bank or for some other reason.

With bottle feeding you have the air issue. When you bottle feed breastmilk it is all mixed up, the fat content is the same during the whole feeding. Babies can't regulate intake from a bottle and can and will over eat. Too much in the tummy makes GERD worse. If you use a bottle small feedings are best.

mommagann
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Yes! As long as you are nursing he should do great! My daughter was a BF baby till she was 14 months. ..we tried baby foods when she was about 8 months, but only to see what she would do! I'm sure your little guy will do great! Don't worry about all these people saying that you have to ..or that its weird. Do what you have to do to keep your baby happy and healthy!

mommagann
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 7:57 AM

Exactly... what would make you think that a baby can't make it on breast milk alone?? that is just nonsense, not that it may or may not be true for SOME people, but to put it out there that it can't happen..is just.....an uneducated statement. Not insulting you. Just saying that you were/have not been informed. I EBF for 14 months. Only "tried" baby foods 3-4 times, after my daughter past 6 months. ....and it was just to see what she did..not out of an necessity for nutrition. People drastically underestimate the wealth of benefits that breast milk provides.

Quoting ShadowLark:

NOT true.  Babies who are bf do FINE without solids until a year AND LONGER.  In fact, even ff babies are just using solids as PRACTICE until a year old.  Their REAL nutrition comes from the FORMULA, NOT the solids.

YES, the GERD needs treatment, you're right about the aspiration risk.  But frocing solids will make the problem WORSE, not better.  Breast milk is a natural antacid.  And even a two year old can get enough nutrition from just nursing - they just nurse klike a newborn (constantly).  Mama HAS time to figure out the food issue WITHOUT putting her baby in MORE danger by forcing it.

As for the iron levels in bf infants, your info is VERY outdated.  Any baby who was properly nourished in the womb and was born full term has enough iron stores for AT LEAST 6 months.  Breast milk has VERY easily absorbed iron in it - which means that bf for another 6 months (exclusively) - EVEN IF YOU WEAN AT 6 MONTHS - gives the baby enough iron for an ADDITIONAL 6 months of life.  CONTINUING to bf past six months REPLENISHES any stores that are used up so that the baby CONTINUES to have enough iron for as long as the bf relationship continues.  (Until about two years of age, then you need to supplement.)

Now - are there issues that can interfere with that?  Yeah, sure - but in most healthy bf babies AND TODDLERS, iron levels are FINE.

Check out Kellymom.  GREAT info!

Quoting Gailll:

A year is too long to make it on breastmilk. You should have your baby checked now for anemia. It's important to have enough iron for brain growth and iron levels start to drop in breastfed babies not eating meat at around 9 mo. 

Ask for a consult to see a GI doc. GERD that bad will cause damage to his digestive system and he can even aspirate acid into his lungs and choke or get pneumonia. Either could be fatal. I've woke up at night choking on acid and its horrible.

My youngest son had tactile sensitivity issues and wouldn't eat. He was already being seen at a children's hospital for other problems. Breastfed babies will usually start having some problems around 9 mo without food. By 11-12 mo they may be FTT. My son was FTT by 12 mo and had to be hospitalized 3 weeks. It wasn't until his second hospitalization that the occupational therapist figured out it was sensitivity issues. It was the 80s before much was known about tactile sensitivities.

It sounds like your baby needs to have some tests done to see if surgery might be needed. If not, GERD should be treated with drugs. He needs to eat and there are foods he will be able to tolerate. If you can't get in to see a GI doctor in the next couple of weeks take him to the ER of a childrens' hospital when he is having a bad day. That will get his treatment started.

 


Gailll
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 8:00 AM

The eating solids for practice is a myth that was started by a baby food company. I've been trying to get them to take it off their website. All foods your baby eats are important and all foods should be nutritious.

I'm sure about breastmilk not being enough for a year. Some people do it and some people may be able to get away with if their baby isn't small. It's harmful for the baby. Besides personal experience I've been a lactation consultant (IBCLC). My master's degree is in health science and I've taken taken graduate nutrition courses. I hate to see a baby's cognitive development or health suffer because of bad information.

You will not find anything on the kellymom.com website or the LLL website telling moms to not start solids until 2 years or that solids are for practice. WHO, AAP, LLL, and kellymom.com recommend starting solids at or around 6 mo.

mamalinzie
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 8:02 AM

My DD was not interested in soliids till well after a year. She grew and exceeded her developmental  milestones and was absolutely thriving without consistent solids til close to 2.

imogensmom
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 8:49 AM

they always told me that solids would cure the reflux!!

Christina807
by on Jul. 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM

I don't know how long they can make it, but our pediatrician said he had a patient that was 4 years old and had ricketts.  He couldn't figure out why for the longest time and then finally the dad told him that he was only on breastmilk, no solids whatsoever.  I'm assuming you and your pediatrician are talking about this, in which case, I would hope your pediatrician would be keeping track of any vitamin deficiencies and if nothing else give you a supplement.

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