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breast feeding issue :(

Posted by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:02 PM
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i posted earlier in the *babies group* about the nipple problem. sore itchy... on one side

I use a nipple shield (have had 0 luck weaning her off).

NOW I'm getting hardly any milk! wth? THis all started 2 weeks AFTER I had that I.U.D put in.

WIC nurse says it could be an infection. my sister says it could be a clogged duct? :( 

-i'm sorry but i refuse to give my baby formula, tried it, and she doesn't like it neither do I!- 

>.> I have to make an appointment to go see a family doctor, hopefully it'll be the same as my DD's doctor. :( 

At first I thought she was biting me with her gums... but she isn't. i'm getting white blisters? they are sore and itchy! continues to be itchy even a half our after I take her off that breast. I'm told to continue to feed her on both sides (i switch sides time to time, one day one boob, the other day the other side). I don't want to continue feeding her on the side that is hurting me... because she isn't getting anything. :( 

Does This have anything to do with the marena?

I asked the doctor for something that WOULD NOT interfere with my breast feeding >.> even the wic social worker suggested the I.U.D. 

by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:02 PM
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tabi_cat1023
by Group Admin -Tabitha on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Mirena has hormones it COULD cause an issue for some moms...itchy sounds like thrush, are there white spots in babies mouth?

YOu need to nurse til baby unlatched on one side and offer the other every time...let baby fully finish before changing sides.

How do you know you are hardly getting any milk?  HOw are babies diapers?

tlcpetsitter360
by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:30 PM

i know because she doesn't swallow as much... 

tlcpetsitter360
by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM

and wet diapers smell.... bad. O.o and there wasn't a  smell yesterday.

redhead-bedhead
by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM

If it is thrush make sure you and your baby are treated for it at the sametime otherwise you will just pass it back and forth.

Quoting tabi_cat1023:

Mirena has hormones it COULD cause an issue for some moms...itchy sounds like thrush, are there white spots in babies mouth?

YOu need to nurse til baby unlatched on one side and offer the other every time...let baby fully finish before changing sides.

How do you know you are hardly getting any milk?  HOw are babies diapers?


maggiemom2000
by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM
How old is your baby?

If you noticed the drop in supply after getting the IUD, then that is very likely the problem. Here is some more info on that:

From http://www.asnatureintended.info/3/post/2009/10/a-message-from-dr-jack-newman-regarding-mirena-iud-interfering-with-breastfeeding.html

We are receiving more and more reports from mothers of a decrease in milk production associated with the Mirena IUD. Today I received two such reports. Given the constant chronological relationship between the placement of the IUD and the mother’s decrease in milk production (1 to 2 weeks), it is quite possible that the decrease in milk production is a result of the IUD.

Of course, it is also likely that not all women will have a significant decrease; nobody contacts me when they don’t have a decreased production. But it is also likely that only a tiny percentage of women who do have a decrease actually contact me.

I think we need to be prudent and warn women about this possible side effect of the Mirena. All hormonal contraceptive methods should be avoided by breastfeeding mothers if possible.

Please forward to all your contacts.

Jack Newman, MD
http://www.drjacknewman.com/

maggiemom2000
by on Apr. 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM
As far as the sore itchy nipples, that sounds like thrush. Good info on how to treat it at:

http://www.drjacknewman.com/help/Candida-Protocol.asp

Here is some info from http://www.llli.org/faq/thrush.html

Is thrush causing my sore nipples?
Persistent nipple pain in the early weeks of breastfeeding, or nipple pain that appears after several weeks or months of pain-free nursing, may be caused by thrush which is a yeast infection of the nipples. Additional symptoms can include

Itchy or burning nipples that appear pink or red, shiny, flaky, and/or have a rash with tiny blisters.
Cracked nipples.
Shooting pains in the breast during or after feedings.
Intense nipple or breast pain that is not improved with better latch-on and positioning.
Deep breast pain.
You may be at higher risk for developing thrush if you or your baby has had a recent course of antibiotics, your nipples are cracked or damaged or you are taking oral contraceptives or steroids (such as for asthma).

Be sure to examine other causes of nipple and breast pain. (There is a thorough list at the end of this article.) Positioning and latch-on problems are the most common causes of pain. Breastfeeding isn't supposed to hurt! Check out the LLLI Sore Nipples FAQ for additional information.

Thrush can be very difficult to treat. It is essential for both you and your baby to be treated for thrush as not only is it easily spread but it also thrives in warm moist environments such as your baby's mouth and your nipples. According to the BREASTFEEDING ANSWER BOOK, Nystatin is considered to be less effective than other treatment options. There are other medication options, including gentian violet and the over-the-counter treatment Miconazole. There is also an oral medication that can be given for resistant cases. Check with your health care professional about these options. Treatment should continue for 2 weeks beyond the end of the symptoms and may be given 4 times a day or after every feeding (if using Miconazole, apply to nipples and areolae 2 to 4 times a day for 7 days).

After treatment for thrush begins, the symptoms may appear to get worse for a couple of days before improving. While the pain continues, offer your baby short, frequent feedings, beginning of the least painful side. Be sure to rinse your nipples and let them air dry after each feeding.

If your baby uses a pacifier or bottle nipple, they should be boiled for 20 minutes a day and replaced every week. Don't forget to boil all breast pump parts that come in contact with milk, if you are pumping. (The milk you pump during a thrush outbreak can be fed to your baby but not frozen. Freezing breastmilk does not kill the yeast in it.) Toys that go in your baby's mouth should be washed with hot, soapy water.

In addition to the medical treatment, there are other steps you can take.

Wash all bras, bra pads, nightgowns, etc (anything that comes in contact with your nipples) in HOT water with bleach and dry on hot in the dryer or in the sun.
Rinsing your nipples with a vinegar and water solution (1 tablespoon vinegar to 1 cup water) after every feeding is helpful. Use a fresh cotton ball for each application and mix a new solution every day.
Some women add acidophilus supplements (40 million units per day) to their diet.
Some women find that reducing yeast and sugar in their diet helps.
These home remedies can be effective but they should be in addition to the medication, not instead of it.


gdiamante
by Gina on Apr. 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Swallows aren't really a good indicator of anything. Only the dipes matter. I NEVER heard a swallow and couldn't really see them, in 26 months of nursing. But mine was a CHUNKER. Had I judged be swallows I'd have thought he was starving.

KayDziedzic
by on Apr. 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

I think pp was referring to the number of diapers, not change in smell or content. Has there been a drop in the number of wet and/or poopy diapers? If not, your supply is probably doing fine.

The nipple pain and symptoms are all the red flags my dr's gave me for thrush (never had it myself). Please get it checked out! My home nurse recommended having thrush diagnosed by your baby's dr instead of yours because the treatment prescribed for the baby's mouth can also be applied to the nipples, but the treatment prescribed by the mother's dr often has to be cleaned off of the nipples before each feeding.

Good luck!

mommaT1983
by on Apr. 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM
I agree with other posters that said thrush. The Mirena could definitely cause a change in milk because it does have hormones. You are doing right by getting checked out. I had issues with my 6 month old at birth and he was a lazy baby but all the nurses kept pushing formula. If you don't absolutely need to don't add formula!! Good luck!
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sunnyflower417
by on Apr. 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM
I lost my production after iud too good luck!
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