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hard to burp on shoulder@ 5 months

Posted by on May. 9, 2012 at 10:04 AM
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Hi there! My 5m old ds is a big guy @ 19 lbs and its getting hard to lift him on to my shoulder comfortably to burp him (especially in the middle off the night). He definatly needs to be burped after. Burping him in the seated position doesn't seem to work and is not comfortable. Any tips?
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GraceHudson
by on May. 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on May. 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I don't usually burp the babies after the first couple months or so. They were mostly self-burping by then. At night I nurse in bed laying down and never burped after that, even when they were newborns. What happens if you don't burp?
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MollyJmommy
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Try holding him with his tummy against your arm so he's laying down in front of you and his back is along your tummy. That works with my dd
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flowermama2011
by on May. 9, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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Try laying him face down with his belly across your legs,
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Baby_Avas_Momma
by on May. 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Hmm not much help here. DD was never a burper, never even spit up, ever lol. After a couple months, trying to burp her was pointless.
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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on May. 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM

I didn't burp my babies after the early weeks/months. Nursing position might make a difference. By this age with my second, we were nursing laying in bed or reclined on my pillows. You don't have to put the baby on your shoulder to burp. Any position where you put pressure on the belly should work.

SewingMamaLele
by Leanne on May. 9, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I'd look for the reason he needs to be burped... do you have a fast letdown that leaves him gulping?   Do you hear any clicking noises while he's nursing?   Breastfed babies don't generally take in air, so they don't generally need burped. 

Though, I always had to burp my second little guy because he'd wait too long between feedings and then guzzle down a bunch of milk at once.   He didn't need it at night, though... side lying helped prevent him from taking air.

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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on May. 9, 2012 at 11:53 AM

I agree that the need to be burped could be caused by overactive letdown. The positions I mentioned earlier helped with my overactive letdown and oversupply so my baby didn't need to be burped at night anymore.

http://kellymom.com/bf/got-milk/supply-worries/fast-letdown/

Forceful Let-down (Milk Ejection Reflex) & Oversupply

AUGUST 20, 2011. Posted in: SUPPLY WORRIES

By Kelly Bonyata, BS, IBCLC

 Is forceful let-down the problem?

Does your baby do any of these things?

  • Gag, choke, strangle, gulp, gasp, cough while nursing as though the milk is coming too fast
  • Pull off the breast often while nursing
  • Clamp down on the nipple at let-down to slow the flow of milk
  • Make a clicking sound when nursing
  • Spit up very often and/or tend to be very gassy
  • Periodically refuse to nurse
  • Dislike comfort nursing in general

If some of this sounds familiar to you, you probably have a forceful let-down. This is often associated with too much milk (oversupply). Some mothers notice that the problems with fast letdown or oversupply don’t start until 3-6 weeks of age. Forceful let-down runs the gamut from a minor inconvenience to a major problem, depending upon how severe it is and how it affects the nursing relationship.

What can I do about it?

There are essentially two ways you can go about remedying a forceful let-down: (1) help baby deal with the fast flow and (2) take measures to adjust your milk supply down to baby’s needs. Since forceful let-down is generally a byproduct of oversupply, most moms will be working on both of these things. It may take a couple of weeks to see results from interventions for oversupply, so try to be patient and keep working on it.

Help baby deal with the fast milk flow

  • Position baby so that she is nursing “uphill” in relation to mom’s breast, where gravity is working against the flow of milk. The most effective positions are those where baby’s head and throat are above the level of your nipple. Some nursing positions to try:
    • Cradle hold, but with mom leaning back (a recliner or lots of pillows helps)
    • Football hold, but with mom leaning back
    • Elevated football hold – like the football hold, but baby is sitting up and facing mom to nurse instead of lying down (good for nursing in public).
    • Side lying position – this allows baby to dribble the extra milk out of her mouth when it’s coming too fast
    • Australian position (mom is “down under”, aka posture feeding) – in this position, mom is lying on her back and baby is on top (facing down), tummy to tummy with mom. Avoid using this positioning frequently, as it may lead to plugged ducts.
  • Burp baby frequently if she is swallowing a lot of air.
  • Nurse more frequently. This will reduce the amount of milk that accumulates between feedings, so feedings are more manageable for baby.
  • Nurse when baby is sleepy and relaxed. Baby will suck more gently at this time, and the milk flow will be slower.
  • Wait until let-down occurs, then take baby off the breast while at the same time catching the milk in a towel or cloth diaper. Once the flow slows, you can put your baby back to the breast.
  • Pump or hand express until the flow of milk slows down, and then put baby to the breast. Use this only if nothing else is working, as it stimulates additional milk production. If you do this, try to express a little less milk each time until you are no longer expressing before nursing.

Adjust your supply to better match baby’s needs

  • If baby is gaining weight well, then having baby nurse from only one breast per feeding can be helpful.
  • If baby finishes nursing on the first side and wants to continue nursing, just put baby back onto the first side.
  • If the second side becomes uncomfortable, express a little milk until you’re more comfortable and then use cool compresses – aim for expressing less milk each time until you are comfortable without expressing milk.
  • Avoid extra breast stimulation, for example, unnecessary pumping, running the shower on your breasts for a long time or wearing breast shells.
  • Between feedings, try applying cool compresses to the breast (on for 30 minutes, off for at least an hour). This can discourage blood flow and milk production.
  • If nursing one side per feeding is not working after a week or so, try keeping baby to one side for a certain period of time before switching sides. This is called block nursing.
    • Start with 2-3 hours and increase in half-hour increments if needed.
    • Do not restrict nursing at all, but any time that baby needs to nurse simply keep putting baby back to the same side during that time period.
    • If the second side becomes uncomfortable, express a little milk until you’re more comfortable and then use cool compresses – aim for expressing less milk each time until you are comfortable without expressing milk.
    • In more extreme cases, mom may need to experiment a bit with time periods over 4 hours to find the amount of time per breast that works best.
  • Additional measures that should only be used for extreme cases of oversupply include cabbage leaf compresses and herbs.
  • Even if these measures do not completely solve the problem, many moms find that their abundant supply and fast let-down will subside, at least to some extent, by about 12 weeks (give or take a bit). At this point, hormonal changes occur that make milk supply more stable and more in line with the amount of milk that baby needs.

    Sometimes babies of moms with oversupply or fast let-down get very used to the fast flow and object when it normally slows somewhere between 3 weeks to 3 months. Even though your let-down may not be truly slow, it can still seem that way to baby. See Let-down Reflex: Too Slow?for tips.

    sreichelt26
    by on May. 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM
    This.

    Quoting aehanrahan:

    I didn't burp my babies after the early weeks/months. Nursing position might make a difference. By this age with my second, we were nursing laying in bed or reclined on my pillows. You don't have to put the baby on your shoulder to burp. Any position where you put pressure on the belly should work.

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    Samantha431
    by on May. 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    hi

    hi has to be burped because he spits up a lot. If I  burp him, it will all come out at once on my shoulder. If I don't, then the little guy struggles in his crib and then spits it up all over his little face and neck :(

    Quoting SewingMamaLele:

    I'd look for the reason he needs to be burped... do you have a fast letdown that leaves him gulping?   Do you hear any clicking noises while he's nursing?   Breastfed babies don't generally take in air, so they don't generally need burped. 

    Though, I always had to burp my second little guy because he'd wait too long between feedings and then guzzle down a bunch of milk at once.   He didn't need it at night, though... side lying helped prevent him from taking air.


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