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So, apparently I've been starving my baby.
I went to the GI specialist today because of low weight gain ( birth weight 7lb 4oz, lowest 6lb 12 oz, 6month 11lb 8oz ), and she told me that DD was malnourished.
She put her on some specialty formula, and told me I could comfort nurse once a day only. She has a weight check first thing Monday morning, and if she hasn't gained any weight she'll be admitted for failure to thrive.
Super bummed that I don't get to wean my way, and that it has gotten so drastic so fast. I've been supplementing for a while now, and it still hadn't made that much of a difference.
I must make water instead of milk!!
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by on Jul. 12, 2012 at 10:27 PM
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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on Jul. 13, 2012 at 5:12 PM
I agree with all of these.
When did you start supplementing?


Quoting Char07:

I agree with these 2... Also how how much have you been supplementing with, what with, and since when?



The weights are not that bad, low but not admit to hospital bad.



Is a food intolerance possible, any signs? Did you have someone well experienced in posterior ties check for a tie?



I would NOT see this GI again but would find another and see an IBCLC as well.



Sorry as well, I've been here, 3 times... We've dealt with slow growth with each baby, tongue ties, food intolerances, stupid drs (including GIs, peds, allergists, ENTs), being accused of starving my 3rd and threatened with the hospital if I didn't wean immediately (she's never had a drop of formula and is 25 mo doing wonderful btw and just weaned last month ;) If you ever just wanna chat or complain feel free to pm me :)




Quoting mostlymaydays:

This, quite simply, is the route they should be taking.






Quoting tabi_cat1023:

I would demand testing NOW, they should test your milk, they should test your baby for deficiencies, and they should do before and after nursing weights for 24 hours with no supplimenting.  I personally would not go to only formula til after those things were done.  If she has a metabolic disorder formula could likely kill her in the long run, if she has an absorbtion issue she will be worse FTT than they already see.


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Trtlemomma
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 5:37 PM
I started supplementing with a two-three ounce bottle after her four month check up. She wouldn't take the bottle from me, so I had to wait until my husband could give it. She got it every night before bed. We started with neatle goid start firmula so that she could drink my pumped milk while i was at work.
There were no other signs of any fiod intolerances.
And ive always been concerned about her size, but she's never looked unhealthy to me.r />
Quoting aehanrahan:

I agree with all of these.

When did you start supplementing?


Quoting Char07:

I agree with these 2... Also how how much have you been supplementing with, what with, and since when?





The weights are not that bad, low but not admit to hospital bad.





Is a food intolerance possible, any signs? Did you have someone well experienced in posterior ties check for a tie?





I would NOT see this GI again but would find another and see an IBCLC as well.





Sorry as well, I've been here, 3 times... We've dealt with slow growth with each baby, tongue ties, food intolerances, stupid drs (including GIs, peds, allergists, ENTs), being accused of starving my 3rd and threatened with the hospital if I didn't wean immediately (she's never had a drop of formula and is 25 mo doing wonderful btw and just weaned last month ;) If you ever just wanna chat or complain feel free to pm me :)




Quoting mostlymaydays:

This, quite simply, is the route they should be taking.







Quoting tabi_cat1023:

I would demand testing NOW, they should test your milk, they should test your baby for deficiencies, and they should do before and after nursing weights for 24 hours with no supplimenting.  I personally would not go to only formula til after those things were done.  If she has a metabolic disorder formula could likely kill her in the long run, if she has an absorbtion issue she will be worse FTT than they already see.





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angelbears
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 5:56 PM
Very true, my 4 month old had his checkup today and he had only gained 1 pound in the last two months. I brought up the weight issue....but he's growing and doing well in all other aspects, so Dr. Wasn't concerned. I'm just hoping that he's getting enough to eat!



Quoting gdiamante:

Sorry, rissa... your info was still incorrect. Your milk will look different at different times of the day. You can't eyeball this.

The OP was doing fine, really... WEIGHT is the least important marker of baby's progress. Dipes and milestones were good... she just has a small kid! Nothing wrong with that!

OP... find a doc who doesn't look at weight. SERIOUSLY... they exist. I have one. he looks at weight ONCE in a child's life... first visit. After that, never again UNLESS there is a problem with development! Mom has to bring up weight and most of the time he'll glance at the chart and say, "It's fine."

Quoting rissamom224:

Thas not true my first dd i had watery milk it looked like i had a bottle of water that i droped a teaspoon of milk in, my milk now with DD2 Is creamy and rich looking im no LC so im not saying it decreases value but mayb she doesnt have alot of i think its called hinmilk or something like that also that came from her saying "i make water"

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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on Jul. 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM
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Four months is when I suspected the formula started. That's when the gain slowed much more. I suspect that there is an issue with a dairy intolerance since the formula is dairy based. Some babies don't show the normal symptoms of dairy intolerance/allergy and it only shows in lack of weight gain.

Quoting Trtlemomma:

I started supplementing with a two-three ounce bottle after her four month check up. She wouldn't take the bottle from me, so I had to wait until my husband could give it. She got it every night before bed. We started with neatle goid start firmula so that she could drink my pumped milk while i was at work.

There were no other signs of any fiod intolerances.

And ive always been concerned about her size, but she's never looked unhealthy to me.r />

Quoting aehanrahan:

I agree with all of these.

When did you start supplementing?


Quoting Char07:

I agree with these 2... Also how how much have you been supplementing with, what with, and since when?





The weights are not that bad, low but not admit to hospital bad.





Is a food intolerance possible, any signs? Did you have someone well experienced in posterior ties check for a tie?





I would NOT see this GI again but would find another and see an IBCLC as well.





Sorry as well, I've been here, 3 times... We've dealt with slow growth with each baby, tongue ties, food intolerances, stupid drs (including GIs, peds, allergists, ENTs), being accused of starving my 3rd and threatened with the hospital if I didn't wean immediately (she's never had a drop of formula and is 25 mo doing wonderful btw and just weaned last month ;) If you ever just wanna chat or complain feel free to pm me :)




Quoting mostlymaydays:

This, quite simply, is the route they should be taking.








Quoting tabi_cat1023:

I would demand testing NOW, they should test your milk, they should test your baby for deficiencies, and they should do before and after nursing weights for 24 hours with no supplimenting.  I personally would not go to only formula til after those things were done.  If she has a metabolic disorder formula could likely kill her in the long run, if she has an absorbtion issue she will be worse FTT than they already see.







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ardiaxe
by Bronze Member on Jul. 13, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Quoting tabi_cat1023:

I would demand testing NOW, they should test your milk, they should test your baby for deficiencies, and they should do before and after nursing weights for 24 hours with no supplimenting.  I personally would not go to only formula til after those things were done.  If she has a metabolic disorder formula could likely kill her in the long run, if she has an absorbtion issue she will be worse FTT than they already see.



Test her milk for what?
I had a slow growing baby girl, now a slow growing toddler and wanted my milk tested. After doing tons of research on the topic, talking to IBLC's and Dr.s, I found that human milk contains the same amount of calories with very little difference person to person. The fat/calorie content can differ by day, hour and month, but overall the same. Diet did effect the type of fat baby got, but not the amount. The IBLC's that I talked to, said that the machines to test were highly inaccurate and a terrible predictor of calorie content. The best predictor of weight gain is volume of intake. A baby drinking tons of watery lowfat foremilk can still get BIG.
TempestRayne
by Member on Jul. 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Did you start solis at four months?

Char07
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Another great question, have you started any solids?

Lower gain with formula started does kinda indicate dairy issues. Any skin rashes, persistant diaper rashes, diarrhea, colic, gas, arching, reflux, congestion, runny nose, red cheeks/ears, there's more I'm sure but that's what comes to mind for me right now.


Quoting TempestRayne:

Did you start solis at four months?

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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on Jul. 14, 2012 at 12:45 AM
He's getting enough if you are changing enough diapers. What goes in, must come out. If it is coming out, it is going in.

Quoting angelbears:

Very true, my 4 month old had his checkup today and he had only gained 1 pound in the last two months. I brought up the weight issue....but he's growing and doing well in all other aspects, so Dr. Wasn't concerned. I'm just hoping that he's getting enough to eat!






Quoting gdiamante:

Sorry, rissa... your info was still incorrect. Your milk will look different at different times of the day. You can't eyeball this.

The OP was doing fine, really... WEIGHT is the least important marker of baby's progress. Dipes and milestones were good... she just has a small kid! Nothing wrong with that!

OP... find a doc who doesn't look at weight. SERIOUSLY... they exist. I have one. he looks at weight ONCE in a child's life... first visit. After that, never again UNLESS there is a problem with development! Mom has to bring up weight and most of the time he'll glance at the chart and say, "It's fine."

Quoting rissamom224:

Thas not true my first dd i had watery milk it looked like i had a bottle of water that i droped a teaspoon of milk in, my milk now with DD2 Is creamy and rich looking im no LC so im not saying it decreases value but mayb she doesnt have alot of i think its called hinmilk or something like that also that came from her saying "i make water"

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Rosa404
by on Jul. 14, 2012 at 2:00 AM

Youve gotten great info so far. Dont feel bad about changeingb drs. My son is 1 and we just changed for the 3rd time because my wishes were not being resected.

gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Jul. 14, 2012 at 2:13 AM

You're supplementing and baby isn't gaining... indeed, gain became worse with the supplementing from the history you've given. 

If doc doesn't take that as a CLEAR indication you've been misguided, then run away from the doc and find another FAST. 

Quoting Trtlemomma:

I started supplementing with a two-three ounce bottle after her four month check up. She wouldn't take the bottle from me, so I had to wait until my husband could give it. She got it every night before bed. We started with neatle goid start firmula so that she could drink my pumped milk while i was at work.
There were no other signs of any fiod intolerances.
And ive always been concerned about her size, but she's never looked unhealthy to me.r />
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